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23 hours ago, dmo_dlo said:

 

Oh WFW and Gazoo even provided irrefutable proof of the ice age claims in the 70s.

It's bogus. The peer reviewed literature at the time was more or less unanimous in saying the Earth was warming. The few claims of cooling were blaming a potential mass increase in aerosol concentrations in the atmosphere. 

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It wasn't until the clean air acts started passing in countries around the world, including our own, that aerosol started massively declining.

Again, ******** narrative designed to paint doctoral research by people who have dedicated their lives to studying the climate as alarmist fools. 

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On 5/20/2016 at 1:38 PM, gazoo said:

The raw data shows virtually no warming over the last 20 years, they had to manipulate the data in order to claim it did not cool.

Again, straight up lie.

IPCC AR5 Figure 1.4.  Solid lines and squares represent measured average global surface temperature changes by NASA (blue), NOAA (yellow), and the  UK Hadley Centre (green).  The colored shading shows the projected range of surface warming in the IPCC First Assessment Report (FAR; yellow), Second (SAR; green), Third (TAR; blue), and Fourth (AR4; red).

 

The Earth has been warming within the predictive models presented in the 90s. By arbitrarily choosing the start data as 98, the single hottest year on recorded that far exceeded other measurements do to one of the strongest El Nino events in the 20th century, it is easy to manipulate the picture to look like it isn't warming as much. The long term trend is warming, and picking short slices from a couple of years in an attempt to claim it's cooling is just proof of how desperate they are to continue such a narrative. 

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On 5/20/2016 at 2:34 PM, dirtyhairy said:

Ah, Radical. Could you please share a link where anyone said there was a mini ice age in the 70's. I will wait right here.....Oh rad. rad, rad.....Hmm, I guess you've gone down for your noon time nap.

You do realize that it's not possible for me to respond to your nonsense while you're in the process of typing it, right? Do you need me to explain to you how the Internet works? 

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2 hours ago, Free Radical said:

And yet he took out Osama, brought the the economy back from the disaster Bush created, and has uninsured rates at an all time low. 

Awesome. 

Ah, Rad. Obama took out Osama? You mean our intelligence agencys, SEAL Team 6 and countless War hours in the desert is what you meant to say. Osama gave a green light to an operation. That does not mean He Did anything other then got out of the way.

The economy. Unemployment is over 11% with over 95 million people not working. Wages are way down from 15 years ago. Disability and welfare are through the roof. Our economic growth is the slowest since WW2 and every economic indicator other then Wall street is in the toilet. Why is wall street up? Because this idiot gives them $80 billion per MONTH, for the last 7.5 years. This idiot has also doubled the national debt, saw our credit rating get tanked and at $20 trillion in debt, we cannot see the end for 100 years.

There's also our tanked reputation in the world. The chinese hack us, the North Koreans laugh at us and the Russians punk our Navy with fly by's. The middle east is an absolute disaster and all sectors of our planet are on fire.

 

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As for the C02 question. During the Cambrian period, 500 million years ago,  we saw 7,000 ppm of co2 in our atmosphere. Now, we are around 300-350. Earth has been on a decline in C02 since our inception. Most of the C02 released now settles in our waters, oceans, rivers and of course Plants consume it as food. As C02 continues to dwindle, so does plant life. Volcanoes and the C02 released from the massive volcanoes slows down as Earth's mantle cools down. This is why we are seeing a large reduction in C02 over the last 100 million years.

Bottom line, if C02 were to be shut down, all life on earth would die. C02 is a giver of life and you people thinking it's a monster that man's releasing, your are misinformed in a massive way. There's this as well. C02 is roughly .04% of the total atmosphere, so it's a very tiny part of our total atmosphere.

An issue not many know or talk about is the magnetic norths shift south. This occurs every 10,000 years and we are due for this shift soon. When that period is occuring, the earth has massive volcanic activity in our oceans. Scientist have started realizing that there may be 1 million new volcanic vents forming and opening. This will certainly be releasing huge amounts of C02 and acid into our oceans. We as humans know very little of our oceans as we cannot possible get to the vastness of it. Our Oceans are Huge contributors to the C02 strategy and it's not in any of the models, nor is the sun. Imagine that.

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52 minutes ago, dirtyhairy said:

Ah, Rad. Obama took out Osama? You mean our intelligence agencys, SEAL Team 6 and countless War hours in the desert is what you meant to say. Osama gave a green light to an operation. That does not mean He Did anything other then got out of the way.

The economy. Unemployment is over 11% with over 95 million people not working. Wages are way down from 15 years ago. Disability and welfare are through the roof. Our economic growth is the slowest since WW2 and every economic indicator other then Wall street is in the toilet. Why is wall street up? Because this idiot gives them $80 billion per MONTH, for the last 7.5 years. This idiot has also doubled the national debt, saw our credit rating get tanked and at $20 trillion in debt, we cannot see the end for 100 years.

There's also our tanked reputation in the world. The chinese hack us, the North Koreans laugh at us and the Russians punk our Navy with fly by's. The middle east is an absolute disaster and all sectors of our planet are on fire.

 

Jonathan Gruber, one of Obamas architects of the bill, was caught on tape ridiculing the useful idiots who believed the flagrant lies Obama was peddling  to pass the bill. He was not mocking you or me becuase we saw through the lies, he was mocking people like free radickal who to this day drinks the kool aid. 

We had Ben Rhodes, Obamas spokesman for the Iran deal mocking the useful idiots who believed the lies they were telling to get that deal done. Rhodes was not mocking you or me, he was mocking peop,e like free radickal who believe that lies and still defend them.

it is simply amazing the leftist ideology supports lying and deceit. We know they lie because if they told the truth there's no way the public would support Obamacare, Cap and Trade, a borderless country, free flow illegal immigration  and a host of other progressive policies. 

Usefull idiots, plenty of them.

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24 minutes ago, Reggie_Kelly said:

greenhouse gasses are bad.. But the earth goes through warm and cool cycles naturally. Global warming is a "myth"

Perpetrated by those that have something to gain.  Also, it is a way to force us to redistribute our wealth throughout the world.  If global warming was Bernie Madoff it will be in jail already.  

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1 hour ago, dirtyhairy said:

Ah, Rad. Obama took out Osama? You mean our intelligence agencys, SEAL Team 6 and countless War hours in the desert is what you meant to say. Osama gave a green light to an operation. That does not mean He Did anything other then got out of the way.

The economy. Unemployment is over 11% with over 95 million people not working. Wages are way down from 15 years ago. Disability and welfare are through the roof. Our economic growth is the slowest since WW2 and every economic indicator other then Wall street is in the toilet. Why is wall street up? Because this idiot gives them $80 billion per MONTH, for the last 7.5 years. This idiot has also doubled the national debt, saw our credit rating get tanked and at $20 trillion in debt, we cannot see the end for 100 years.

There's also our tanked reputation in the world. The chinese hack us, the North Koreans laugh at us and the Russians punk our Navy with fly by's. The middle east is an absolute disaster and all sectors of our planet are on fire.

So blah blah blah, Obama took our Osama. Just like you trumpeted Bush taking out Hussein. 

Unemployment is under 5%:

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Not a single state in the country has an unemployment percentage of 11%. More lies from the snake.

Wage rate is climbing back up, which is the exact opposite from the Bush recession, where it tanked starting in 2007. 

No President has been responsible for increasing debt more than Bush, who increased debt at a higher rate than any President in history. 

Obama has improved our relations with the rest of the world, and has only been stuck with the disaster in the Middle East Bush left behind.

Typical neo-con doesn't take responsibility for their actions, nor can that be anything other than pathological liars. 

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1 hour ago, gazoo said:

Jonathan Gruber, one of Obamas architects of the bill, was caught on tape ridiculing the useful idiots who believed the flagrant lies Obama was peddling  to pass the bill. He was not mocking you or me becuase we saw through the lies, he was mocking people like free radickal who to this day drinks the kool aid. 

We had Ben Rhodes, Obamas spokesman for the Iran deal mocking the useful idiots who believed the lies they were telling to get that deal done. Rhodes was not mocking you or me, he was mocking peop,e like free radickal who believe that lies and still defend them.

it is simply amazing the leftist ideology supports lying and deceit. We know they lie because if they told the truth there's no way the public would support Obamacare, Cap and Trade, a borderless country, free flow illegal immigration  and a host of other progressive policies. 

Usefull idiots, plenty of them.

Uninsured rates at an all time low. You mad bro?

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45 minutes ago, Free Radical said:

Uninsured rates at an all time low. You mad bro?

So they're insured now, what good is it if people cannot afford to use it?  That's like kissing your sister.  They should have taken the 15% that did not have or could not afford insurance and put them on medicaid instead of fuggin' up the entire system for everyone else.  

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7 minutes ago, WhenFalconsWin said:

So they're insured now, what good is it if people cannot afford to use it?  That's like kissing your sister.  They should have taken the 15% that did not have or could not afford insurance and put them on medicaid instead of fuggin' up the entire system for everyone else.  

Part of the PPACA was to expand Medicaid to cover people up to 138% of the national poverty level, it's just that several stupid redneck states instead opted out of the medicaid expansion program as a political maneuver to try and tank the program, showing once again that right wing nuts are willing to sacrifice lives in order to win their political games. 

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Anybody else see the irony in this? We call it "Man Made Global Warming". It's actually man's practice of science that causes the emissions. So "scientists" blame "man" when it's actually the advancements of science that have caused the emissions.

And now science is supposed to be trusted. Man is the problem while science is our "savior". The Earth and man lived just fine together for thousands of years before science advanced to the point of world destruction. 

I don't hate science. Just saying. It's pretty ironic if you really think about it. Sorry to bring religion into this, but the irony is identical. Atheists are like, "I believe in science, how many people were killed in the name of God?" Umm, how many people were killed in the name of science? Atom bombs, assault weapons, chemical and biological warfare, the list goes on.

Everyone has to see the irony here, regardless of which side of any of the debates you're on.

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1 minute ago, pzummo said:

Anybody else see the irony in this? We call it "Man Made Global Warming". It's actually man's practice of science that causes the emissions. So "scientists" blame "man" when it's actually the advancements of science that have caused the emissions.

And now science is supposed to be trusted. Man is the problem while science is our "savior". The Earth and man lived just fine together for thousands of years before science advanced to the point of world destruction. 

I don't hate science. Just saying. It's pretty ironic if you really think about it. Sorry to bring religion into this, but the irony is identical. Atheists are like, "I believe in science, how many people were killed in the name of God?" Umm, how many people were killed in the name of science? Atom bombs, assault weapons, chemical and biological warfare, the list goes on.

Everyone has to see the irony here, regardless of which side of any of the debates you're on.

Doesn't this sound familiar?  The dems say it is a problem and that they're the only ones who can solve it.  I agree they are ironic.  

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6 hours ago, WhenFalconsWin said:

So they're insured now, what good is it if people cannot afford to use it?  That's like kissing your sister.  They should have taken the 15% that did not have or could not afford insurance and put them on medicaid instead of fuggin' up the entire system for everyone else.  

The big lie is those people were always covered for healthcare whether or not they had insurance. We have free clinics, Medicaid for low come families and Grady type hospitals for the poor, they were always covered. 

Problem is, now those middle class families who have worked hard all their lives are making less money and their helsthcare costs way more with sky high deductibles now they cannot afford to use theirs, while many who refuse to work can get free care anytime. 

There were plenty of other ways to address healthcare problems without destroying the whole system for the middle class. My dedicatble went up to $7000 from $2500 and my premiums up 25% and it covers a lot less tha. Before. There were other ways without screwing the middle class.

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1 hour ago, pzummo said:

Anybody else see the irony in this? We call it "Man Made Global Warming". It's actually man's practice of science that causes the emissions. So "scientists" blame "man" when it's actually the advancements of science that have caused the emissions.

And now science is supposed to be trusted. Man is the problem while science is our "savior". The Earth and man lived just fine together for thousands of years before science advanced to the point of world destruction. 

I don't hate science. Just saying. It's pretty ironic if you really think about it. Sorry to bring religion into this, but the irony is identical. Atheists are like, "I believe in science, how many people were killed in the name of God?" Umm, how many people were killed in the name of science? Atom bombs, assault weapons, chemical and biological warfare, the list goes on.

Everyone has to see the irony here, regardless of which side of any of the debates you're on.

Science is just a tool. What society does with it lays with them. 

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1 hour ago, WhenFalconsWin said:

Doesn't this sound familiar?  The dems say it is a problem and that they're the only ones who can solve it.  I agree they are ironic.  

And Repubs deny it's a problem and refuse to do anything that would even improve common sense issues like pollution. 

We threw billions in subsidies to the oil industries over the decades, and drove electric vehicles out of business decades ago with legal manipulation. Reagan removed solar panels from the White House and fought against solar tax credits? Why. What was the purpose. It only caused more harm. It's rah-rah ******** like that that is the problem. 

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45 minutes ago, gazoo said:

The big lie is those people were always covered for healthcare whether or not they had insurance. We have free clinics and Grady hospitals for the poor, they were always covered. 

Problem is, now those middle class families who have worked hard all their lives are making less money and their helsthcare costs way more with sky high deductibles now they cannot afford to use theirs, while many who refuse to work can get free care anytime. 

There were plenty of other ways to address healthcare problems without destroying the whole system for the middle class. My dedicatble went up to $7000 from $2500 and my premiums up 25% and it covers a lot less tha. Before. There were other ways without screwing the middle class.

It treated medical emergencies, but any kind of ongoing treatment they needed, they were screwed. Pre-existing conditions? Screwed. Republicans fought against closing the medicaid gap, and I know people who were personally affected by that in Georgia and Tennessee.

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11 hours ago, Free Radical said:

It treated medical emergencies, but any kind of ongoing treatment they needed, they were screwed. Pre-existing conditions? Screwed. Republicans fought against closing the medicaid gap, and I know people who were personally affected by that in Georgia and Tennessee.

I think we can all agree that pre-existing issues needed to be addressed and they were under the ACA.  One of the only few good things in the law.  But not at the expense of putting a system in that does not benefit the multitudes of people on insurance where they can say they have insurance in name only (IINO) if they cannot afford to use it.  

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12 hours ago, Free Radical said:

Science is just a tool. What society does with it lays with them. 

How about commenting on some actual facts? 

As for the C02 question. During the Cambrian period, 500 million years ago,  we saw 7,000 ppm of co2 in our atmosphere. Now, we are around 300-350. Earth has been on a decline in C02 since our inception. Most of the C02 released now settles in our waters, oceans, rivers and of course Plants consume it as food. As C02 continues to dwindle, so does plant life. Volcanoes and the C02 released from the massive volcanoes slows down as Earth's mantle cools down. This is why we are seeing a large reduction in C02 over the last 100 million years.

Bottom line, if C02 were to be shut down, all life on earth would die. C02 is a giver of life and you people thinking it's a monster that man's releasing, your are misinformed in a massive way. There's this as well. C02 is roughly .04% of the total atmosphere, so it's a very tiny part of our total atmosphere.

An issue not many know or talk about is the magnetic norths shift south. This occurs every 10,000 years and we are due for this shift soon. When that period is occuring, the earth has massive volcanic activity in our oceans. Scientist have started realizing that there may be 1 million new volcanic vents forming and opening. This will certainly be releasing huge amounts of C02 and acid into our oceans. We as humans know very little of our oceans as we cannot possible get to the vastness of it. Our Oceans are Huge contributors to the C02 strategy and it's not in any of the models, nor is the sun. Imagine that.

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12 hours ago, Free Radical said:

And Repubs deny it's a problem and refuse to do anything that would even improve common sense issues like pollution. 

We threw billions in subsidies to the oil industries over the decades, and drove electric vehicles out of business decades ago with legal manipulation. Reagan removed solar panels from the White House and fought against solar tax credits? Why. What was the purpose. It only caused more harm. It's rah-rah ******** like that that is the problem. 

The billions going towards the oil and gas industry is the only reason the poor can afford to drive a car in this country. It's the only reason the poor can afford to have stable electricity and air conditioning in their homes. Without the subsidies, a gallon of gas would have been $5-7 like it has been in the UK. Why do you think air travel has been so cheap?

Dems act like they want to help the poor but they crap on any policy that helps the poor take care of themself and live a more comfortable life. Dems only want to invest in programs that keep the poor dependent on the government, and want to remove the policies that enable the poor to work their way out of poverty. 

I'm not referring to Republicans when I say this. I am referring to true Conservatives. Conservative is about keeping the government small so that it is not a burden or holding back the people. Real Conservatives are the only one's wanting to stop the government from impeding on our individual right to pursue happiness. Dems don't give a crap about that. They pretend like they want to help the needy, but in reality they want to help themselves to everyone else's hard work. 

Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for a lifetime. This is a Conservative value. Dems want to focus on giving a man a fish, so that man will have to come back tomorrow for another one. Conservatives want to teach men to fish, make sure they have places to go fishing, and they can afford to get to the places with the most fish available. That is why the economy and new business growth is important. That is why transportation shouldn't be so expensive that only the rich can afford it. That is why we had great upward mobility with a smaller government and why we have diminishing upward mobility as policies have gone toward social support instead of social enablement.

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58 minutes ago, pzummo said:

The billions going towards the oil and gas industry is the only reason the poor can afford to drive a car in this country. It's the only reason the poor can afford to have stable electricity and air conditioning in their homes. Without the subsidies, a gallon of gas would have been $5-7 like it has been in the UK. Why do you think air travel has been so cheap?

Dems act like they want to help the poor but they crap on any policy that helps the poor take care of themself and live a more comfortable life. Dems only want to invest in programs that keep the poor dependent on the government, and want to remove the policies that enable the poor to work their way out of poverty. 

I'm not referring to Republicans when I say this. I am referring to true Conservatives. Conservative is about keeping the government small so that it is not a burden or holding back the people. Real Conservatives are the only one's wanting to stop the government from impeding on our individual right to pursue happiness. Dems don't give a crap about that. They pretend like they want to help the needy, but in reality they want to help themselves to everyone else's hard work. 

Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for a lifetime. This is a Conservative value. Dems want to focus on giving a man a fish, so that man will have to come back tomorrow for another one. Conservatives want to teach men to fish, make sure they have places to go fishing, and they can afford to get to the places with the most fish available. That is why the economy and new business growth is important. That is why transportation shouldn't be so expensive that only the rich can afford it. That is why we had great upward mobility with a smaller government and why we have diminishing upward mobility as policies have gone toward social support instead of social enablement.

Well, it secures votes, doesn't it? I don't trust any of them, no matter what label the are representing. 

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7 minutes ago, Butudontseeme™ said:

Well, it secures votes, doesn't it? I don't trust any of them, no matter what label the are representing. 

Agreed. That's why I said true Conservatives, not speaking for Republicans. There are a lot of Republicans that bastardize Conservative values by manipulating the ideology.

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3 hours ago, pzummo said:

The billions going towards the oil and gas industry is the only reason the poor can afford to drive a car in this country. It's the only reason the poor can afford to have stable electricity and air conditioning in their homes. Without the subsidies, a gallon of gas would have been $5-7 like it has been in the UK. Why do you think air travel has been so cheap?

Dems act like they want to help the poor but they crap on any policy that helps the poor take care of themself and live a more comfortable life. Dems only want to invest in programs that keep the poor dependent on the government, and want to remove the policies that enable the poor to work their way out of poverty. 

I'm not referring to Republicans when I say this. I am referring to true Conservatives. Conservative is about keeping the government small so that it is not a burden or holding back the people. Real Conservatives are the only one's wanting to stop the government from impeding on our individual right to pursue happiness. Dems don't give a crap about that. They pretend like they want to help the needy, but in reality they want to help themselves to everyone else's hard work. 

Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for a lifetime. This is a Conservative value. Dems want to focus on giving a man a fish, so that man will have to come back tomorrow for another one. Conservatives want to teach men to fish, make sure they have places to go fishing, and they can afford to get to the places with the most fish available. That is why the economy and new business growth is important. That is why transportation shouldn't be so expensive that only the rich can afford it. That is why we had great upward mobility with a smaller government and why we have diminishing upward mobility as policies have gone toward social support instead of social enablement.

Bravo sir, bravo...this guy gets it.  

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On 5/22/2016 at 10:19 PM, Free Radical said:

And Repubs deny it's a problem and refuse to do anything that would even improve common sense issues like pollution. 

We threw billions in subsidies to the oil industries over the decades, and drove electric vehicles out of business decades ago with legal manipulation. Reagan removed solar panels from the White House and fought against solar tax credits? Why. What was the purpose. It only caused more harm. It's rah-rah ******** like that that is the problem. 

Big Oil and Industry is obviously at the root of this anti science movement. We also saw similar things going on with the Tobacco industry until the science was to much for their money to over come. Eventually the same thing will happen to the deniers.

How people can claim scientists are out to make a buck on the Global warming issue but somehow Big Oil is innocent in all of this is ridiculous. Most GOP pushed issues tend to boil down to what industry is giving them the most money to push things in their favor.

 

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