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The Falcons are going to rotate their defensive front like crazy

By Dave Choate  @TheFalcoholic on May 17, 2016, 12:15p 3 

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The proof is everywhere.

One of the hardest things about projecting a depth chart for theFalcons this year is that there's so much uncertainty surrounding the team's plans at multiple positions. Particularly along the defensive front, however.

With yesterday's news that Ra'Shede Hageman is moving to defensive end, it's more clear than ever that Dan Quinn has the players he wants, and he's going to shuffle them as he sees fit. I mean, thus far this offseason, we've heard that:

 

 

And there's likely more we simply haven't heard yet, including the possibility of Keanu Neal and/or Kemal Ishmael getting a little run at linebacker. When you have a versatile defense with some talent, this is a great approach, as the Seahawks have illustrated, and Quinn certainly subscribes to the Seattle method of both team-building and deployment. The only problem is that he doesn't have that caliber of defense just yet.
 
The upshot here is that you should pencil everyone's roles in until late this summer when we have some more clarity, and we'll hope this makes a traditionally weak Falcons defense a strong unit in 2016.
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2 minutes ago, trubirdfan4life said:

Then we get caught in certain personnel and they game plan no huddle against it. I like having guys who do different things, but it can backfire as it did on several occasions last year

actually it's the opposite now, guys as the season goes on can shuffle, you could potential ha e the mlb dropping into safety safety coming into the box dends playing olb dends dropping into olb dtackles sliding outside dends sliding inside corners blitzing manning or dropping into zone. **** can get real nasty for the offense to make blocking calls etc.

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But thats how the defense is run. We have better players than last year. A lot of teams rotate guys in/out all game. The offense can get confused if the right call is not made. I think it can play into our hands because we have different combinations we can throw out on the field this year. 

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1 hour ago, FalconsInstitutionalSize said:

actually it's the opposite now, guys as the season goes on can shuffle, you could potential ha e the mlb dropping into safety safety coming into the box dends playing olb dends dropping into olb dtackles sliding outside dends sliding inside corners blitzing manning or dropping into zone. **** can get real nasty for the offense to make blocking calls etc.

You missed my point....1st down we have our big lineup in, they throw a short pass then go no huddle. Now we have the bigger slower LBs and DEs in the game....making us open to alot more depending on the personnel grouping...  just like if we have our nascar package in and teams run power against it.....happens all the time...to everyone. 

We have worrilow and upshaw in with hageman and tjax in......they go empty.....its not in our favor on that play

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52 minutes ago, trubirdfan4life said:

You missed my point....1st down we have our big lineup in, they throw a short pass then go no huddle. Now we have the bigger slower LBs and DEs in the game....making us open to alot more depending on the personnel grouping...  just like if we have our nascar package in and teams run power against it.....happens all the time...to everyone. 

We have worrilow and upshaw in with hageman and tjax in......they go empty.....its not in our favor on that play

You match your lineup with there lineup. They come out with 2 TEs you have in the bigs. They come 3 wide its Nickel. NASCAR is for obvious passing situations. If they sub we sub. 

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14 hours ago, trubirdfan4life said:

You missed my point....1st down we have our big lineup in, they throw a short pass then go no huddle. Now we have the bigger slower LBs and DEs in the game....making us open to alot more depending on the personnel grouping...  just like if we have our nascar package in and teams run power against it.....happens all the time...to everyone. 

We have worrilow and upshaw in with hageman and tjax in......they go empty.....its not in our favor on that play

Sounds like a good way to have an offensive line worn out by the 2nd half of the game. Teams don't typically run a lot of no huddle for a reason.

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6 minutes ago, Falcon918 said:

You match your lineup with there lineup. They come out with 2 TEs you have in the bigs. They come 3 wide its Nickel. NASCAR is for obvious passing situations. If they sub we sub. 

Watch the games bruh, happened to us repeatedly last year. 2 TE SET.....then everyone splits out....we were toast. Theoretically, should be more athletic on some packages, but we also got bigger for some packages. Thats where the issues lie. if they don't sub,  you wont have time to.....got caught numerous times like that as well. We throw from 2 TE regularly, because of the matchups it gives us....other teams do it to us as well

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9 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1969 said:

 

Sounds like a good way to have an offensive line worn out by the 2nd half of the game. Teams don't typically run a lot of no huddle for a reason.

Naw man.....not the offensive line, its the defensive line and LBs that suffer in the no huddle situations.....offenses love it. We were a very potent offense when they let matt run the show from the line....now we have mr. Wizard as OC. He knows more than everybody.

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15 hours ago, trubirdfan4life said:

Naw man.....not the offensive line, its the defensive line and LBs that suffer in the no huddle situations.....offenses love it. We were a very potent offense when they let matt run the show from the line....now we have mr. Wizard as OC. He knows more than everybody.

Defensive lines get rotated. OL's do not. Who is going to tire out quicker?

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2 hours ago, FalconFanSince1969 said:

We knew this already if anybody paid attention last year.

Beasley - 539 snaps. 51.3%

Babs - 549 snaps. 52.3%

Hageman 419 snaps. 39.9%

Clayborn 523 snaps. 49.8%

Biermann 516 snaps. 49.1%

Tjax 463 snaps. 43.1%

Solali 357 snaps. 34.1%

Jarrett 267 snaps. 25.4%

 

 

So, looking at this year, it seems like Jarrett will basically eat Solia's snaps and end up with 60 ish percent.

Beasley should get more.

T Jax and Hag may see similar snaps just at different positions.

Shelby should take all of Biermann's snaps (though between both DE and DT.)

We need Hageman or Clayborn (or T Jax which I don't see) to step up so Shelby or Babs don't have to end up with a ton extra snaps.

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1 hour ago, trubirdfan4life said:

You missed my point....1st down we have our big lineup in, they throw a short pass then go no huddle. Now we have the bigger slower LBs and DEs in the game....making us open to alot more depending on the personnel grouping...  just like if we have our nascar package in and teams run power against it.....happens all the time...to everyone. 

We have worrilow and upshaw in with hageman and tjax in......they go empty.....its not in our favor on that play

Which is 100% the reason Keanu Neal was our first round pick. That spot has to be the most versatile in regards to this. If we get caught heavy and they spread it out, he needs to cover. If we get caught light he comes down in the box. 

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18 minutes ago, takeitdown said:

So, looking at this year, it seems like Jarrett will basically eat Solia's snaps and end up with 60 ish percent.

Beasley should get more.

T Jax and Hag may see similar snaps just at different positions.

Shelby should take all of Biermann's snaps (though between both DE and DT.)

We need Hageman or Clayborn (or T Jax which I don't see) to step up so Shelby or Babs don't have to end up with a ton extra snaps.

I'm frankly hoping all of them will have a lot less snaps overall......

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