Snafu 7,005 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 (edited) There were quite a few guys we could have taken w/ our 1st and 2nd rounders that nobody would have considered to be a reach, yet those same guys found themselves still on the board in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th rounds. The problem is that we can only base our opinions around the information that is presented to us (Mocks/Prospect Rankings), and unfortunately, that information comes from people that are not NFL team exec's. We have no idea how coveted Kean Neal, or Deion Jones truly were around the time we chose them. Theres no such thing as a reach in the draft, only good picks and bad picks. So pull your panties out your butt crack and just wish the guys well, cause if they end up doing well in the jobs we drafted them to do, we will be a better football team. Edited May 1, 2016 by RubberDucky Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francis York Morgan 25,561 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 We need to pull our panties out of our butt cracks? Sounds like a reach. Fire TD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Drew4719 4,682 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 1 minute ago, Falcan Moore said: We need to pull our panties out of our butt cracks? Sounds like a reach. Fire TD This already went downhill. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MD-FalconFan13 3,505 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Thank you. This "reach" ish is getting agitating. We got good players and scheme fits. Because we didn't get the name folks are crying. We won't know who was a reach until these guys hit the field. Lets reserve our judgement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JayOzOne 20,107 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Yah, it's just silly sometimes. Of course, there is a point at which any reasonable person would consider a pick a reach (for example: trading up in the second to take a kicker), but if the player fits your scheme and your need better than the next 31 players, you take him when he's available. People complained that we didn't take a linebacker at #17, but Lee was the last one taken in the round. And they griped about not taking an edge rusher, yet Lawson was the last one taken in the round. If we didn't have a positive grade on those players, we would have been "reaching" to take any other ones at our pick. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RYNE 6,097 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 What's the point of talking about the draft if you can't say what you feel? Come to think of it what's the point of the message board? Just because people feel like Atlanta reached on some picks doesn't mean they aren't hoping they become great players for us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thiccolas Cage 1,377 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 "The Reacher"... sounds like a cool movie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aleksandr sportolli 47,964 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 It's amazing how many questions you can answer with just the words "because TATF". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Canadian Jangus 334 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 5 minutes ago, Da D!rty D!rty said: "The Reacher"... sounds like a cool movie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Architect 738 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Obviously our front office isn't the same caliber yet, but if you look at a lot of Patriot and Seahawks Draft classes, "experts" often call most picks reaches. And some happen to be but they generally get some nice contributors to their team who fit the scheme they're trying to run. Both have been strong contenders for the past few years ( much longer in the Patriots case obviously). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ramonezy 954 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 The term "reach" was created by analysts/fans who didn't want to admit their mocks were wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Canadian Jangus 334 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Yeah, the FO really shouldn't be all that sorry for not following suit to amateurs like Walter Cheripinsky. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gazoo 21,329 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I think those using the term are thinking they'd like a "reach-around " when they say it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gazoo 21,329 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 4 minutes ago, Mr Plow said: No offense ... but have you boys ever experienced a reach-around from your woman ... it's pretty dad-gummed good. These guys want one from TD! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gazoo 21,329 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Just now, Mr Plow said: You just killed my buzz! LMAO! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aleksandr sportolli 47,964 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 This seems like it's going to end well. Edit: Considering what was being said before I posted this I probably should have worded that a little better. I'm going to let it ride though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snafu 7,005 Posted May 1, 2016 Author Share Posted May 1, 2016 31 minutes ago, RYNE said: What's the point of talking about the draft if you can't say what you feel? Come to think of it what's the point of the message board? Just because people feel like Atlanta reached on some picks doesn't mean they aren't hoping they become great players for us. Context. Discuss the individual, their tape, and how their strengths and weakness can either help or hurt the team. When your entire argument against a player is the time-frame in which you drafted them, it shows you neither know nor care what their unique skillsets may be and how that skillset can help us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gazoo 21,329 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 13 minutes ago, Jpowers said: This seems like it's going to end well. Edit: Considering what was being said before I posted this I probably should have worded that a little better. I'm going to let it ride though. Lol! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SkyborneC-Falcon4Life 191 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 LOL. This is exactly why I avoided signing into TATF until the draft was completely over. Now, I'm going to go thru all the draft threads I missed the past few days, and let the arguments, butt-hurt, and harsh predictions entertain me. Happy with the draft picks this year, though. Now to wait and see if they can play at the next level. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aleksandr sportolli 47,964 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Just now, SkyborneC-Falcon4Life said: LOL. This is exactly why I avoided signing into TATF until the draft was completely over. Now, I'm going to go thru all the draft threads I missed the past few days, and let the arguments, butt-hurt, and harsh predictions entertain me. Happy with the draft picks this year, though. Now to wait and see if they can play at the next level. I have to recommend the Devondre Campbell thread. There's all kinds of twists and turns in that one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SkyborneC-Falcon4Life 191 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Just now, Jpowers said: I have to recommend the Devondre Campbell thread. There's all kinds of twists and turns in that one. Thanks. Lol. Headed there now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
insight 1,920 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 3 hours ago, RubberDucky said: There were quite a few guys we could have taken w/ our 1st and 2nd rounders that nobody would have considered to be a reach, yet those same guys found themselves still on the board in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th rounds. The problem is that we can only base our opinions around the information that is presented to us (Mocks/Prospect Rankings), and unfortunately, that information comes from people that are not NFL team exec's. We have no idea how coveted Kean Neal, or Deion Jones truly were around the time we chose them. Theres no such thing as a reach in the draft, only good picks and bad picks. So pull your panties out your butt crack and just wish the guys well, cause if they end up doing well in the jobs we drafted them to do, we will be a better football team. We picked a SS with 17, the next safety taken was about 60 picks later. If the position was so coveted by other teams why didn't another get taken earlier? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falconsd56 26,530 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 1 hour ago, Jpowers said: This seems like it's going to end well. Edit: Considering what was being said before I posted this I probably should have worded that a little better. I'm going to let it ride though. Its ok...as a mod you can just rub it out of existence Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falconsd56 26,530 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 38 minutes ago, insight said: We picked a SS with 17, the next safety taken was about 60 picks later. If the position was so coveted by other teams why didn't another get taken earlier? Maybe because the other guys were not as good as neal???? just a hunch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aleksandr sportolli 47,964 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Just now, falconsd56 said: Its ok...as a mod you can just rub it out of existence I'm out of puns so I'm just going to like your post and hope it ends there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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