gazoo Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 We have a deep roster of former GMs who collectively have a phenomenal amount of knowledge in player aquistion. This allows us to assign many of these guys to go out and closely look at the hundreds of players for potential gems in the late rounds and who were not drafted. This increases the possibility to find another Ricardo Allen or Ryan Shraeder. I am interested to see not only who we draft in 6th and 7th, but also who we target after draft and have a feeling we could find a legitimate player or two, at minimum role players who can plug a specific need in certain packages. That Trade TD made to pick up a 6th round pick was brilliant. We really needed on developmental OG and we got the 6th round pick basically for free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Minotaur Zebra Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I was thinking about this, too. I think Quinn and TD are going to go for their guys in the draft and then have their scouts snag the picks of the litter once UDFA opens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uup115 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 They couldn't even draft competently and you think un-drafted free-agents will payoff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mazetti Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Wasn't going to open this...then I saw it was Gazoo. Good post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karst41 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Sorry Gazoo, Both Pioli and Dimitroff has proven beyond the shadow of any doubt, that both were only as good as Bill Belichicks player evaluations. Pioli landed in KC and soon flopped, and same with Dimitroff. Both have also demonstrated the lack of personnel management abilities. I wish that this were not the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted April 30, 2016 Author Share Posted April 30, 2016 19 minutes ago, Tim Mazetti said: Wasn't going to open this...then I saw it was Gazoo. Good post. Thanks brother Tim, I sincerely appreciate that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted April 30, 2016 Author Share Posted April 30, 2016 14 minutes ago, Karst41 said: Sorry Gazoo, Both Pioli and Dimitroff has proven beyond the shadow of any doubt, that both were only as good as Bill Belichicks player evaluations. Pioli landed in KC and soon flopped, and same with Dimitroff. Both have also demonstrated the lack of personnel management abilities. I wish that this were not the case. The main point of this post has nothing to do with TD and Pioli, I was specifically talking about all the former GMs we brought in this offseason and how they can help with the later rounds and Undrafted players.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconcrest58 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 31 minutes ago, gazoo said: We have a deep roster of former GMs who collectively have a phenomenal amount of knowledge in player aquistion. This allows us to assign many of these guys to go out and look for potential gems from players in the late rounds and who were not drafted. I am interested to see not only who we draft in 6th and 7th, but also who we target after draft and have a feeling we could find a legitimate player or two, at minimum role players who can plug a specific need in certain packages. That Trade TD made to pick up a 6th round pick was brilliant. The reality is we have 13 GMs because the one that's been here 9 yrs can't do his d@mn job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted April 30, 2016 Author Share Posted April 30, 2016 26 minutes ago, QuantumZebra said: I was thinking about this, too. I think Quinn and TD are going to go for their guys in the draft and then have their scouts snag the picks of the litter once UDFA opens. I think you may be on to something there brother Zebe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 34 minutes ago, gazoo said: We have a deep roster of former GMs who collectively have a phenomenal amount of knowledge in player aquistion. This allows us to assign many of these guys to go out and look for potential gems from players in the late rounds and who were not drafted. I am interested to see not only who we draft in 6th and 7th, but also who we target after draft and have a feeling we could find a legitimate player or two, at minimum role players who can plug a specific need in certain packages. That Trade TD made to pick up a 6th round pick was brilliant. I have been laying off TD of late - this is more about you. Calling a trade to move back two picks and get a late 6th rounder - please explain how this is brilliant? This is just a very basic/simple move that is done 40 times a draft by the other NFL GMs. The fact that you think this is brilliant is - straight weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted April 30, 2016 Author Share Posted April 30, 2016 11 minutes ago, g-dawg said: I have been laying off TD of late - this is more about you. Calling a trade to move back two picks and get a late 6th rounder - please explain how this is brilliant? This is just a very basic/simple move that is done 40 times a draft by the other NFL GMs. The fact that you think this is brilliant is - straight weird. This, coming from a poster who has @&$ed incessantly for years about TD trading away picks and how it hurts us, now attacking posters who point out he just did the opposite. I doubt anyone takes you serious anymore on anything related to TD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Just now, gazoo said: I doubt anyone takes you serious anymore on anything related to TD nobody takes you worshiping on your knees in front of TDs zipper seriously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Minotaur Zebra Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 12 minutes ago, falconcrest58 said: The reality is we have 13 GMs because the one that's been here 9 yrs can't do his d@mn job That's the whole point. It's clear from a mile away that Quinn controlled this draft with approval/input from TD. Gazoo's whole point is that our stable of former GMs are the guys who are scouting UDFAs and gems right now - which is absolutely great. UDFAs are heavily overlooked in the NFL draft process. I enjoy checking out UDFAs more than our main picks - how do you think top teams build? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uup115 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 6 minutes ago, g-dawg said: nobody takes you worshiping on your knees in front of TDs zipper seriously Seriously, we could have picked up a starting guard in the 4th...instead we draft a project player with "poor football instincts"....is anybody surprised? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon Ben Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 30 minutes ago, Karst41 said: Sorry Gazoo, Both Pioli and Dimitroff has proven beyond the shadow of any doubt, that both were only as good as Bill Belichicks player evaluations. Pioli landed in KC and soon flopped, and same with Dimitroff. Both have also demonstrated the lack of personnel management abilities. I wish that this were not the case. Absolutely. After all, who has Dimitroff drafted other than Ryan, Jones, Trufant, Mathews, Alford, Moore, Freeman, Beasley, Jarret and Allen? Abject failure, I tell ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted April 30, 2016 Author Share Posted April 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Falcon Ben said: Absolutely. After all, who has Dimitroff drafted other than Ryan, Jones, Trufant, Mathews, Alford, Moore, Freeman, Beasley, Jarret and Allen? Abject failure, I tell ya. Do you have any idea what the original post is about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uup115 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, Falcon Ben said: Absolutely. After all, who has Dimitroff drafted other than Ryan, Jones, Trufant, Mathews, Alford, Moore, Freeman, Beasley, Jarret and Allen? Abject failure, I tell ya. Ryan and Matthews were no option selections, TD gets no credit or blame for them, they had to be drafted. Jones, from an equity to value standpoint was a disaster still rippling through this team. Trufant was a good get...the rest are marginal players at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted April 30, 2016 Author Share Posted April 30, 2016 15 minutes ago, QuantumZebra said: That's the whole point. It's clear from a mile away that Quinn controlled this draft with approval/input from TD. Gazoo's whole point is that our stable of former GMs are the guys who are scouting UDFAs and gems right now - which is absolutely great. UDFAs are heavily overlooked in the NFL draft process. I enjoy checking out UDFAs more than our main picks - how do you think top teams build? For a team doing such a good job on finding scheme specific players, these former GMs digging around all this really later round and UDFA talent increase the potential for us to find a diamond in the rough, guys like Kevin Shaefer or Ricardo Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith 3:16 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 8 minutes ago, Falcon Ben said: Absolutely. After all, who has Dimitroff drafted other than Ryan, Jones, Trufant, Mathews, Alford, Moore, Freeman, Beasley, Jarret and Allen? Abject failure, I tell ya. Do you realize half of your list is average NFL talent? Ryan was mandated by the owner and 2 of his other amazing selections were top 6 picks....******* amzing stuff there. Surprised you didn't put Featherspoon on the list too you nut hugger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith 3:16 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 9 minutes ago, gazoo said: Do you have any idea what the original post is about? He's taking your side you smuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uup115 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 20 minutes ago, gazoo said: Do you have any idea what the original post is about? Your precious thread was not hijacked...we just pointed out facts to how ridiculous you theory was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 1 hour ago, gazoo said: We have a deep roster of former GMs who collectively have a phenomenal amount of knowledge in player aquistion. This allows us to assign many of these guys to go out and look for potential gems from players in the late rounds and who were not drafted. This increases the possibility to find another Ricardo Allen or Kevin Sheafer. I am interested to see not only who we draft in 6th and 7th, but also who we target after draft and have a feeling we could find a legitimate player or two, at minimum role players who can plug a specific need in certain packages. That Trade TD made to pick up a 6th round pick was brilliant. We really needed that and we good it basically for free. LMFAO.... your brilliant GM just took the only unranked Offensive Lineman drafted so far ahead of offensive linemen rated to go in rounds 3-4. Brilliant! Awesome post, gazoo!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon Ben Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 26 minutes ago, gazoo said: Do you have any idea what the original post is about? Yeah, but what does that have to do with anything? I was responding (sarcastically) to the post (which I quoted) that declared TD/SP had "flopped." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uup115 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 1 minute ago, g-dawg said: LMFAO.... your brilliant GM just took the only unranked Offensive Lineman drafted so far ahead of offensive linemen rated to go in rounds 3-4. Brilliant! Awesome post, gazoo!!! I think every player except the TE was drafted at least a round early...talk about tee-teeing away equity! Vegas sees what I see from Quinn and co. And that is about 7 wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted April 30, 2016 Author Share Posted April 30, 2016 29 minutes ago, g-dawg said: LMFAO.... your brilliant GM just took the only unranked Offensive Lineman drafted so far ahead of offensive linemen rated to go in rounds 3-4. Brilliant! Awesome post, gazoo!!! You mean like Kevin Sheafer was? I suppose in your twisted mind you'd rather have burned a first round pick on starting RT Kevin Sheafer than pick him up for free. only a TD hater like you would complain like a little baby about getting essentially a free 6th round draft pick after bit$hing incessantly about TD trading picks away and how it's ruining our team.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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