LaurentRobinsonDaGawd Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Ok, so i believe we have gotten most of our notable signings out of the way. I would like us to sign James Laurinaitis to man the middle of our defense. I would now like to project a mock for you guys: 1) Andrew Billings DT Baylor - Something that alot of people have been overlooking, is that we have a gaping hole at NT, which is a VERY important position on the defense. I would not feel comfortable starting Mbu next season. When I watch tape of Andew Billings, I see a stunning resemblance to a young Vince Wilfork. He is a massive, yet agile, specimen of a human being. Hes a leader, and would be the "Alex Mack" of our defense, in the way that just having him take up double teams and wreck havoc, will improve the entire defense. Not sexy, but necessary gor success. 2) Hunter Henry TE Arkansas - Once again we get a draft pick that will improve the his entire side of the ball. Henry is the best TE prospect I have seen since Eifert came out of ND. His presence alone woll open thinhs up for Sanu and, more importantly, Julio. Matt Ryan has not had a dependable deep threat at the TE position since Tony G's firat couple seasons here. Look at what an elite TE does for teams like the Bengals and Patriots. It make the offense so much more explosive. 3) Deion Jones WLB LSU - This may be more of a project pick, because Deion os still slightly unpolished. I think the return of Spoon was a key pick-up for this defense. Quinn was open about his desire to have Spoon retained last offseason. He fits the WLB in this role perfectly, and would allow us to groom Deion Jones for a year, or so while he learns the system. He is basically a more physucally gifted and durable Spoon. Spoon is just a vet with alot of talented juice in the tank. 4) Best MLB available 7) Best DE available Ryan/DiMarco/Freeman Jones/Sanu/Henry Matthews/Levitre/Mack/Persons/Schraeder Beasley/Billings/Babineaux. /Shelby Weatherspoon/Laurinaitis/Reed Trufant/Allen/Ishmael/Alford I understand that the LB crew is underwhelming. It does consist of three talented veterans, who can help direct the rest of the defense. I believe Billings is simply a talent at DT that would change this defenses identity for the next decade. He is a baaaaad bad man. Jones is someone who cab also play the WLB or MLB position whenever he is ready to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Billings is climbing up my 17 ladder. I want to watch more but I've liked what I've seen. Kid is a **** of an athlete too... I havent had a chance to look at the TEs yet but I'm hesitant to go TE in the 2nd. I would rather hope to snag Jerrell Adams in the 3rd/4th. I think if we're going to go 2 LBs we're going to need to do it early unless we see guys falling. But the pool is fairly thin this year so it might have to be two of our first three picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdz4i Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Talon Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 No need for a tight end this year. I would draft all defense. But, if you had to have an O pick, I would go guard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trubirdfan4life Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 7 minutes ago, The Talon said: No need for a tight end this year. I would draft all defense. But, if you had to have an O pick, I would go guard. Exactly, no need this year, even if we sign more veteran LBs and DEs we need to draft both. 1...ILB 2...OLB 3...DE 4...OG 7...S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaurentRobinsonDaGawd Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 I just think the value henry brings outweighs the value any 2nd rd LB brings. Hes a helluva tight end prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashbrown3 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 18 minutes ago, LaurentRobinsonDaGawd said: I just think the value henry brings outweighs the value any 2nd rd LB brings. Hes a helluva tight end prospect. Gotcha, but he's a luxury pick next to all the core needs we have in order to compete. I don't think your choice is necessarily bad there however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 21 minutes ago, LaurentRobinsonDaGawd said: I just think the value henry brings outweighs the value any 2nd rd LB brings. Hes a helluva tight end prospect. Maybe he does. I wouldnt hate hate it. I'm just wary of TEs in general. That position doesnt really generate value until Y3....tough to think you'll get a lot on the field in 2016. But like I said, I havent had a chance to watch him yet. So maybe I'll see it when I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_The Iceman_Ryan Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Ishmael and Allen are the starting safeties??? No Thanks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaurentRobinsonDaGawd Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 57 minutes ago, Matt_The Iceman_Ryan said: Ishmael and Allen are the starting safeties??? No Thanks... Ishmael should've started last year. He balled out in 2014. Allen will only improve. Give them a year. Took Henry in 2nd, because i believe he'll be the BPA. Isnt that what you all preach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYNE Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 I like Billings. I am not excepting any mocks that do not have a guard in the 2nd or 3rd round. It's time to protect Matt Ryan. Took a huge step by getting Mack, now it's time to finish the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_The Iceman_Ryan Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 (edited) 50 minutes ago, LaurentRobinsonDaGawd said: Ishmael should've started last year. He balled out in 2014. Allen will only improve. Give them a year. Took Henry in 2nd, because i believe he'll be the BPA. Isnt that what you all preach? We have a starting TE...Henry is a luxury pick and a bad one at that...he is standing out right now because this TE class is so bad...he is not a 2nd rounder, and he will not be the BPA at #50 for us... We also currently have the following players at DT....TJax, Babs, Hageman, Jarrett, Mbu..... As our roster sits, we can't take a player at #17 that won't see the field or have an impact...we also like Jarrett a lot...Billings while not too similar is the same positional style player as Jarrett... OLB and SS will be in our first 3 picks...in no specific order...the other pick will more than likely be a DT or DE, but not in the 1st round. Edited March 15, 2016 by Matt_The Iceman_Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 4 hours ago, DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry said: Billings is climbing up my 17 ladder. I want to watch more but I've liked what I've seen. Kid is a **** of an athlete too... I havent had a chance to look at the TEs yet but I'm hesitant to go TE in the 2nd. I would rather hope to snag Jerrell Adams in the 3rd/4th. I think if we're going to go 2 LBs we're going to need to do it early unless we see guys falling. But the pool is fairly thin this year so it might have to be two of our first three picks. I'm starting to ponder Quinn being happy with his safety options with Ricardo Allen, Robinson Therezie, Charles Godfrey, Kemal Ishmael and Akeem King. Would not even be surprised if Falcons toyed with the idea of making Jalen Collins a safety project. With the addition of Derrick Shelby, re-signing of Clayborn, further development of Beasley and possibly a Chris Long signing - it could be that Falcons postpone drafting a passrusher - but maybe not - I could see that going either way. 1st(#17) - DE/DT/OLB - Shaq Lawson, Kevin Dodd, Andrew Billings, Sheldon Rankins, Leonard Floyd, Darron Lee 2nd(#50) - DE/OLB/SS/DT - Noah Spence, S'ua Cravens, Vonn Bell, Karl Joseph, Kenny Clark, Vernon Butler 3rd(#81) - OLB/SS/DT - Deion Jones, Jordan Jenkins, Jeremy Cash, Miles Killebrew, Chris Jones, Javon Hargrave 4th(#115) - TE/OG/C - Jerrell Adams, Austin Hooper, Nick Vannett, Max Tuerk, Jack Allen, Evan Boehm I am dedicating the first three picks to defense - best talent on the board should be defense so I am still taking BPA anyway - this 2016 draft is all about defense. With those first three picks, I am taking two front 7 players from these positions (DE/DT/OLB) and a possible safety or a 2nd OLB. I would probably dedicate the 4th round pick to a Tight End or an Offensive Lineman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAN_O_THE_ATL Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 4 hours ago, Matt_The Iceman_Ryan said: We have a starting TE...Henry is a luxury pick and a bad one at that...he is standing out right now because this TE class is so bad...he is not a 2nd rounder, and he will not be the BPA at #50 for us... We also currently have the following players at DT....TJax, Babs, Hageman, Jarrett, Mbu..... As our roster sits, we can't take a player at #17 that won't see the field or have an impact...we also like Jarrett a lot...Billings while not too similar is the same positional style player as Jarrett... OLB and SS will be in our first 3 picks...in no specific order...the other pick will more than likely be a DT or DE, but not in the 1st round. Arguably outside of a first round pick we shouldn't be banking on draft picks to start and be major pieces in their first year. Can they?...certainly. But in most cases they come in and compete and contribute something year one and prepare themselves for major contribution in year two and beyond. So I wouldn't view a TE as a luxury since we don't have a replacement on the roster for Tamme beyond this year. That said, we lack depth at just about all the positions you mentioned so I wouldn't view any of them as luxury picks at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 14 hours ago, g-dawg said: I'm starting to ponder Quinn being happy with his safety options with Ricardo Allen, Robinson Therezie, Charles Godfrey, Kemal Ishmael and Akeem King. Would not even be surprised if Falcons toyed with the idea of making Jalen Collins a safety project. With the addition of Derrick Shelby, re-signing of Clayborn, further development of Beasley and possibly a Chris Long signing - it could be that Falcons postpone drafting a passrusher - but maybe not - I could see that going either way. 1st(#17) - DE/DT/OLB - Shaq Lawson, Kevin Dodd, Andrew Billings, Sheldon Rankins, Leonard Floyd, Darron Lee 2nd(#50) - DE/OLB/SS/DT - Noah Spence, S'ua Cravens, Vonn Bell, Karl Joseph, Kenny Clark, Vernon Butler 3rd(#81) - OLB/SS/DT - Deion Jones, Jordan Jenkins, Jeremy Cash, Miles Killebrew, Chris Jones, Javon Hargrave 4th(#115) - TE/OG/C - Jerrell Adams, Austin Hooper, Nick Vannett, Max Tuerk, Jack Allen, Evan Boehm I am dedicating the first three picks to defense - best talent on the board should be defense so I am still taking BPA anyway - this 2016 draft is all about defense. With those first three picks, I am taking two front 7 players from these positions (DE/DT/OLB) and a possible safety or a 2nd OLB. I would probably dedicate the 4th round pick to a Tight End or an Offensive Lineman. Interesting breakdown. Here's what I would adjust: 1st - Slide Dodd back a little bit and throw "trade back" in there before Floyd. 2nd - I'd move Butler toward the front of the list. I think you're reaching for a safety there so I'd rather look at Sterling Shepard or the BDPA 3rd - Like this a lot 4th - Yeah this is probably where we can look at TE. Though I'm tempted to focus on guard at that spot. This highlights why the "trade back" thing has so much appeal this year. In theory you could still draft Lee in the 1st after trading back but also have the opportunity to double dip at LB with one of your 3rds. I think Lawson is most likely gone once we get on the clock. Which is a **** shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 26 minutes ago, DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry said: Interesting breakdown. Here's what I would adjust: 1st - Slide Dodd back a little bit and throw "trade back" in there before Floyd. 2nd - I'd move Butler toward the front of the list. I think you're reaching for a safety there so I'd rather look at Sterling Shepard or the BDPA 3rd - Like this a lot 4th - Yeah this is probably where we can look at TE. Though I'm tempted to focus on guard at that spot. This highlights why the "trade back" thing has so much appeal this year. In theory you could still draft Lee in the 1st after trading back but also have the opportunity to double dip at LB with one of your 3rds. I think Lawson is most likely gone once we get on the clock. Which is a **** shame. thanks for the comments - value your input Larry. to me, putting 4-5 names with each pick is more fun than just a straight up mock because it is more realistic and greater chance that it could be semi-accurate - also, allows us as fans to see what the groupings of players would look like - fairly certain the NFL teams probably analyze draft strategies this way as well. As far as the names for each round, I was not really ordering them in preference per-se. I agree from analyzing the first three rounds of this draft that the Falcons would greatly benefit from a trade-down scenario - I just doubt teams in the 20's are going to want to trade up. Maybe a team like the Jets(#20 overall), Denver(#31) or Cleveland(#32) who might decide they want that 3rd QB - who will probably be Paxton Lynch. To me, if Shaq Lawson is gone, I am trading down and taking Kevin Dodd, Darron Lee, Leonard Floyd or Emmanuel Ogbah - in that order. I do think there is a real chance Lawson drops to #17 - maybe a 35-40% chance now that the NY Giants re-signed JPP and backed up the brinks truck for Olivier Vernon. What offensive lineman do you like better than the ones I listed in 4th round? looked like most of the guards in this draft were poor scheme fits for the ZBS - that is why I listed the centers - who could also likely play guard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 G-dawg, I havent had a chance to watch guards yet so I'd just be guessing at this point. I felt the same way you did about the Lawson or trade idea....but what if we went outside the box? Would it be possible to put rankins at that heavy end spot? I was watching more film on him last night and he really is a fantastic player. He worked outside a bit (more in odd fronts) and wins with power and technique. I wonder if we would consider him working as a rotational end. A line of Beasley/Grady/Hageman/Rankins has some serious upside for disruption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJC28 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 1. Ragland - Floyd 2. Cravens - Bell 3. Jones - Jenkins 4. Hargrave - Hooper I will take any of these guys and go to war! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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