HaRdH3ad Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 NOT "FAST & COTTON SOFT" with that being said, why do people want Darron Lee? Guys he can't tackle, 27 missed tackles is a lot. Not only that I see a guy who is unwilling to tackle in the open field 1 on 1's. I don't think I wanna draft a fast shoulder thrower at 17. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth B Told (TRU) Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 3 minutes ago, HaRdH3ad said: NOT "FAST & COTTON SOFT" with that being said, why do people want Darron Lee? Guys he can't tackle, 27 missed tackles is a lot. Not only that I see a guy who is unwilling to tackle in the open field 1 on 1's. I don't think I wanna draft a fast shoulder thrower at 17. Thoughts? Rather have him than Ragland. At least he can cover and besides in Quinn defense, he wants his players swarming to the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLsuperfan247 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 2 minutes ago, Truth B Told (TRU) said: Rather have him than Ragland. At least he can cover and besides in Quinn defense, he wants his players swarming to the ball. If you cant get to the ball make the other team pay for it, that seems to be quinns motto. I agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShmevinShmarris Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Round 1: DT: Andrews Billings/Sheldon Rankins. The popular opinion on this board is that we need LB help -- and we certainly do. But with our first pick we need to try and solidify our defensive front four. I give the nod to Billings here because we have Hageman who can play the 3T, which is where I think Rankins would be best suited. Billings has the size, the strength and explosion to play the 1T. After watching a couple of his games I saw that he consistently beat double teams; not just through his sheer power either. But with proper leverage and hand technique. This will open holes for our entire defense. Late in Ray Lewis' career he pretty much demanded the Raven's draft a solid NT. Not saying we have a Ray Lewis our team but it certainly makes a LB's job easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiruz Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 I like terrence smith, who is a dark horse. Surprisingly Quinn does too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherdome Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 23 minutes ago, osiruz said: I like terrence smith, who is a dark horse. Surprisingly Quinn does too. A nice 4th round pick. He would would be a great coupling with Weatherspoon. Smith needs some time to settle into one LB position (WLB). Spoon should be good for seven games. A match made in heaven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentayeJones Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 58 minutes ago, osiruz said: I like terrence smith, who is a dark horse. Surprisingly Quinn does too. I do too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShmevinShmarris Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 1 hour ago, osiruz said: I like terrence smith, who is a dark horse. Surprisingly Quinn does too. Haven't seen much on Terrence Smith. From the little I've seen he plays his best at the line of scrimmage. I tried digging a little bit on him but couldn't find much. What's your thoughts on him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino11 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Where did you get that stat from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiruz Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 1 hour ago, ShmevinShmarris said: Haven't seen much on Terrence Smith. From the little I've seen he plays his best at the line of scrimmage. I tried digging a little bit on him but couldn't find much. What's your thoughts on him? He's nasty in coverage too, I've seen him return 2 picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashbrown3 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 PLAYER OVERVIEW A two-year starter in Ohio State's versatile 4-3 base defense, Lee was a 195-pound quarterback in high school and although the Buckeyes coaches weren't sure where he would play, they knew he could play. After starting his Buckeye career at safety, he added muscle and moved to linebacker during his redshirt year, taking over for the departed Ryan Shazier at SAM linebacker in 2014 - played the "walkout" linebacker role so he was asked to cover, blitz and consistently play in space. He redshirted as a scout team linebacker and safety in 2013 before earning the strong-side linebacker job as a redshirt freshman in 2014, filling the shoes of Ryan Shazier. Lee tallied 81 tackles, 16.5 tackles for loss, 7.5 sacks and a pair of interceptions, earning Defensive MVP honors in the Sugar Bowl win over Alabama. He started all 13 games in 2015 as a redshirt sophomore, finishing with 66 tackles, 11.0 tackles for loss and 4.5 sacks to earn Second Team All-Big Ten honors. STRENGTHS WEAKNESSES STRENGTHS: Above-average range, speed and athleticism. Unlocks his hips to instantly accelerate and close. Makes himself skinny and shoots through gaps on the line of scrimmage. Needs to do it more consistently, but flashes violence in his hands to punch, lock out and keep himself free from blocks. Explosive tackler and doesn't need a runway, striking low and leading with his shoulder. Performs with an instant reactor and diagnoses play speed well. Quick-minded, recognizing tendencies and play-calling trends. Smooth hips to turn and run in coverage. Agile pass rusher to blitz, stunt and loop. Adequate bulk and has worked hard to fill out his frame (was a 195-pound high school senior). Self-assured presence on and off the field with a competitive swagger that seems to shine when the lights are the brightest. Versatile experience as a blitzer, run defender and cover man - often lined up across from the slot receiver in coverage. Durable and started every game the past two seasons with consistent production. Will contribute right away on special teams. WEAKNESSES: Leaner-than-ideal features for the position with a narrow torso and maxed out build. Physical mindset with pop in his hands, but lacks ideal play strength to consistently unglue himself from blocks. Stonewalled and engulfed by offensive linemen and needs to improve his take-on technique to stay clean and gain body position. Overaggressive and will over-run angles. Needs to better come to balance and break down on the move. Needs to mix up his moves and show a better plan as a blitzer. Needs to eliminate the dumb, avoidable penalties (roughing, facemask, etc.). Only two full seasons at the linebacker position and still learning different nuances of the position. Doesn't have an indestructible body type. IN OUR VIEW: Lee is a fantastic athlete with long arms and aggressive hands, but needs to develop his functional strength to consistently stack and shed at the line of scrimmage and keep himself clean. Although he is still young in linebacker years, he is a high character competitor, playing with sky-high confidence and natural football instincts to pick things up quickly. In the mold of Ryan Shazier or Kwon Alexander, Lee is a versatile run-and-hit linebacker with an attacking mind-set that fits today's NFL. COMPARES TO: Kwon Alexander, Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Their size and take-on skills aren't strengths, but Lee compares to Alexander as rangy run-and-hit defenders who can excel in today's NFL. --Dane Brugler (2/13/16) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayoh Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 you do realize that we coach players to tackle rugby style, right? Lee won't be getting away with what he was trying to do in college. I'd rather have fast & coachable than good form tackler & slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezekiel 25:17 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 3 hours ago, Truth B Told (TRU) said: Rather have him than Ragland. At least he can cover and besides in Quinn defense, he wants his players swarming to the ball. My thoughts exactly... Lee would at least be able to cover and Get to the ball carrier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krammmit Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 3 hours ago, HaRdH3ad said: NOT "FAST & COTTON SOFT" with that being said, why do people want Darron Lee? Guys he can't tackle, 27 missed tackles is a lot. Not only that I see a guy who is unwilling to tackle in the open field 1 on 1's. I don't think I wanna draft a fast shoulder thrower at 17. Thoughts? 3rd and 13! Thats why I want him. I do see a few missed tackles but I also see a few stops on 3rd down being able to cover tight ends and runningbacks. Quinn teaches multiple ways to tackle depending on which team we play. Hopefully that helps. I know we have Worrilow out there and as much as I like the guy, he can't cover but also misses quite a few tackles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashbrown3 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 8 minutes ago, krammmit said: 3rd and 13! Thats why I want him. I do see a few missed tackles but I also see a few stops on 3rd down being able to cover tight ends and runningbacks. Quinn teaches multiple ways to tackle depending on which team we play. Hopefully that helps. I know we have Worrilow out there and as much as I like the guy, he can't cover but also misses quite a few tackles. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iDash Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Start the fast and Physical with an ALL pro MLB, Please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan11 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Give me Lee or Ragland(prefer Lee) and Darian Thompson in the second and we just had a solid draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam25 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 1 hour ago, Kayoh said: you do realize that we coach players to tackle rugby style, right? Lee won't be getting away with what he was trying to do in college. I'd rather have fast & coachable than good form tackler & slow. ^ Bingo. Lee can still develop, I think people forget this. Quinn would coach him up well and Lee could become a leader of this team. A lot of people think he can play ILB as well. Bobby Wagner was a similar size when he came out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth B Told (TRU) Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 9 minutes ago, Adam25 said: A lot of people think he can play ILB as well. Bobby Wagner was a similar size when he came out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold4425 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Ragland, Floyd or Lawson over Lee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYNE Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 They want him because he is fast. Simple as that. I am not completely sold on him, however the NFL can add a lot of bulk and make him stronger and eventually a better tackler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconfansince66 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Draft Lee and another LB (or two) and make him a hybrid ILB/Safety... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Y'all harping on Lee and praising Smith confuse me. Dude had 24 missed tackles over the last two years. And I don't even dislike the guy, nor am I praising Lee as a 1st round pick. But when the criticism is broken tackles, it's worth noting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy5prings Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 And this was in the National Championship game. Yes, Darron Lee is soft and afraid of contact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D#x3 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 In case DQ doesnt quite know it yet, old swanky hair cant draft for ****. He needs to calm his expectations to either just fast or physical, not both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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