DrunkOffFalcohol Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Just saw the report. Sorry if posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAD597 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 (edited) That sucks, we should have kept him, WHY does this team never keep the big giant DT's? We did the same stupid stuff when Grady Jackson was here and was a monster for us. I HATE HATE HATE how we are always about finesse on the OL and DL and have been for the last decade. WHY can't we have at least two giant monster 330 LB + monsters on DL? Edited March 15, 2016 by MAD597 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy 2.0 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 My only problem with this is... Tyson Jackson was kept instead of Soliai.... THAT does not make sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkerFalcon8710 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Soliai is getting old and injured. He brings nothing to the pass rush but sure lets act like hes a world beater now that the mighty panthers signed him. His contract was always designed to be a two year contract if you look at the structure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archmeister Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 9 minutes ago, Shagpill 2.0 said: My only problem with this is... Tyson Jackson was kept instead of Soliai.... THAT does not make sense to me. Jackson may be cut too.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Soliai is a good player at $3.5mm, but not at what we were paying him - almost double. Another horrible signing from the braintrust (full disclosure: I thought it was a decent signing at the time("my first samoan"). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkOffFalcohol Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 22 minutes ago, MAD597 said: That sucks, we should have kept him, WHY does this team never keep the big giant DT's? We did the same stupid stuff when Grady Jackson was here and was a monster for us. I HATE HATE HATE how we are always about finesse on the OL and DL and have been 22 minutes ago, MAD597 said: We cut him because he wasn't a fit in Quinn's scheme and only played 1/3 of the snaps. Also he was the 3rd highest payed player after Matt & Julio so all the signs were there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insight Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SkerFalcon8710 said: Soliai is getting old and injured. He brings nothing to the pass rush but sure lets act like hes a world beater now that the mighty panthers signed him. His contract was always designed to be a two year contract if you look at the structure. You act like the team improved by releasing him and they did NOT! You can rationalize the move all you want but if Carolina can use him on a far superior defense yet we can't begs to question who is evaluating these players. I bet you were saying the same thing about cutting Joe Hawley! Edited March 15, 2016 by insight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTFalcon25 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Soliai never lived up to his contract with us. Why should we be upset that our division rival is making the same mistake we did two years ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insight Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 (edited) 7 minutes ago, GTFalcon25 said: Soliai never lived up to his contract with us. Why should we be upset that our division rival is making the same mistake we did two years ago? 1. They got him for 3 million guaranteed. 2. He comes in to add additional depth to a formidable defensive line. 3. Did Brooks Reed live up to his contract? What about Tyson Jackson? You build a strong team through competition not through handing the new guy the job. We cut Joe Hawley last year and GAVE Person his job only to find out he couldn't even snap the ball. We now were forced to pay 9.5 million for a 31 year old Center. We cut Harry Douglas and GIVE Hankerson the starting job only to find out he can't CATCH or stay on the Field. We now are forced to pay 7 million for a 4th or 5th option receiver from the Bengels. Carolina has won the division 3 years in a row and has a top 5 defense. Think long and hard about who has been making the wrong personnel moves! Edited March 15, 2016 by insight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentayeJones Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 (edited) I liked Soliai but I understand why he was approached about a restructure and then subsequently released. He was making way too much for only playing a third of the snaps. I wish they could have worked something out but it's not anything to cry over. There is still a few run stuffing NTs out their that’s not going cost no where near as much as Soliai. Edited March 15, 2016 by FentayeJones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bubba Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 If he plays with Star on first down, that is close to 700lb of run stopping muscle in the middle of their line. I think he will be a great rotation guy for them. I believe the Falcons brought him in and expected the big boy to be a pass rusher, something that he's really not. He's a run stuffer. He needs to be utilized strictly as a run stuffer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insight Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Big Bubba said: If he plays with Star on first down, that is close to 700lb of run stopping muscle in the middle of their line. I think he will be a great rotation guy for them. I believe the Falcons brought him in and expected the big boy to be a pass rusher, something that he's really not. He's a run stuffer. He needs to be utilized strictly as a run stuffer. Exactly, when we originally brought him in we couldn't stop anybody in 3rd in short situations. The Falcons were routinely getting blown off the ball, I think Solia was a big reason why the run defense improved. I don't like the lack of creativity that Quinn has shown us thus far using what players do best. No doubt the defense improved but I think we are closer to the saints than to Carolina in terms of defensive talent and stoutness. Edited March 15, 2016 by insight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xfactor Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 I thought this **** would stop when Quinn was named HC guess not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold4425 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 He will definitely help them. We seem to still be missing something in our thoughts process. I was so hoping for more with Vital gone and new people in the Front office. Oh well I hope I'm wrong and I hope for the best. The F O can't afford for this thing to crash this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runshoot Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 1 hour ago, Big Bubba said: If he plays with Star on first down, that is close to 700lb of run stopping muscle in the middle of their line. I think he will be a great rotation guy for them. I believe the Falcons brought him in and expected the big boy to be a pass rusher, something that he's really not. He's a run stuffer. He needs to be utilized strictly as a run stuffer. You guys kill me. Soliai had 17 tackles last year. Where is this mighty run stopping guy you are talking about? In addition we run an outside zone. Id explain it to you Soliai lovers but its evident common sense isn't your strong point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runshoot Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 53 minutes ago, insight said: Exactly, when we originally brought him in we couldn't stop anybody in 3rd in short situations. The Falcons were routinely getting blown off the ball, I think Solia was a big reason why the run defense improved. I don't like the lack of creativity that Quinn has shown us thus far using what players do best. No doubt the defense improved but I think we are closer to the saints than to Carolina in terms of defensive talent and stoutness. ROFL!! Dont let facts get in your way. 3rd down defense: 42.9% 2015 46.8% 2014 Dead last 45.9% 2013 Dead last So with Soliai playing more snaps, with Mike smith we had the LAST 3rd down defense in the league. Quinn gets here, Soliais snaps go down and our 3rd down average gets better. Hey you brought up not stopping anyone on 3rd down... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkOffFalcohol Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 Yea Soliai play play declined greatly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTBF54 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Draft is loaded at DT this year and Soho was not a good fit as well as being overpaid.... He was good depth and that's about it....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperbh Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 What a nightmare. I haven't been this concerned about the Panthers signing one of our former players since they picked up Thomas DeCoud a couple years back. Somebody hold me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashbrown3 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Yep I think we're going to draft someone too!! I say when we play against Soliai, we flip the switch to no huddle and run his arse like a dog until his tongue is dangling around his shoelaces... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insight Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 (edited) 26 minutes ago, runshoot said: ROFL!! Dont let facts get in your way. 3rd down defense: 42.9% 2015 46.8% 2014 Dead last 45.9% 2013 Dead last So with Soliai playing more snaps, with Mike smith we had the LAST 3rd down defense in the league. Quinn gets here, Soliais snaps go down and our 3rd down average gets better. Hey you brought up not stopping anyone on 3rd down... 1st of all I said he was brought in to address the issue is that a fact or not? Secondly are you saying that Solia was on the bench in obvious run situations and played exclusively on passing downs? Are you saying the facts indicate we were better stopping the run without him because that is what you are implying? Edited March 15, 2016 by insight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 2 hours ago, insight said: 1. They got him for 3 million guaranteed. 2. He comes in to add additional depth to a formidable defensive line. 3. Did Brooks Reed live up to his contract? What about Tyson Jackson? You build a strong team through competition not through handing the new guy the job. We cut Joe Hawley last year and GAVE Person his job only to find out he couldn't even snap the ball. We now were forced to pay 9.5 million for a 31 year old Center. We cut Harry Douglas and GIVE Hankerson the starting job only to find out he can't CATCH or stay on the Field. We now are forced to pay 7 million for a 4th or 5th option receiver from the Bengels. Carolina has won the division 3 years in a row and has a top 5 defense. Think long and hard about who has been making the wrong personnel moves! What did HD do with Tennessee? Oh yeah, nothing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShmevinShmarris Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 3 hours ago, insight said: You act like the team improved by releasing him and they did NOT! You can rationalize the move all you want but if Carolina can use him on a far superior defense yet we can't begs to question who is evaluating these players. I bet you were saying the same thing about cutting Joe Hawley! He did improve the team though. He cleared up so much cap space for us. Now if we could only use that cap space... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentayeJones Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 4 minutes ago, g-dawg said: What did HD do with Tennessee? Oh yeah, nothing.... Not a dam thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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