falconcrest58 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 32 minutes ago, Leggggggo said: Ok, substance. Technically there will be 31 losers every year. The parity that has been added to the NFL by way of the salary cap and rookie contracts being basically predetermined allow for teams like the Panthers to go from a losing record to almost perfect record in 1 year. The difference between elite players and mediocre players is half seconds and half inches, and you have 31 other teams competing for those same elite players often times with outside influencers at play (income tax, family location, etc) as well as the team you rep. I could keep going but I hope you get my point... If your expectation is to that a team should be able to hit a home run every off season, you're delusional, or a Patriots fan. I think of it the same way as people who go gambling and expect to win even though they know the house has odds on every single bet they make. You look at it as only one playoff win. I look at it as a lot of winning record seasons and only 3 years removed from the NFCCG and a few yards from a SB trip... I bet there are a lot of franchises out there that would take our past 10 years over their past ten years any day of the week... (Brown, Raiders, Rams, etc). Full of substance and well said...... I do agree with most of it. My point is TD has failed repeatedly to acquire a pass rusher via draft, FA, off the dam Marta, trade, undrafted fa, stolen from Walmart, borrowed, etc...... and his track record speaks for itself , ZERO depth, look at last year OL going into preseason, OL period since he got here and inherited the misfits in '08 that turned out to be pretty good, one star quality defensive player D Trufant, LB have sucked biggest part of the time he's been here. A team MUST over pay or get LUCKY to acquire a great FA and he sucks at both. The record speaks for itself.....I'm just stating facts. And I'm a fan since '75 and STH since mid 80s. I've been there thru the Rankin Smith days and remember Jed Clampett and I'm very thankful for the gracious AB. But with that said AB needs to hire a GM that knows how to utilize his generosity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precyse Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 1 hour ago, HASHBROWN3 said: I really don't want Reggie Ragland at 17 either because I don't think he brings all that more pass defense game than Worrilow does. He would be an improvement in the run game but no way I would take him over a plethora of guys that early in the 1st round. I could be dead wrong and just not see it perhaps. If we cant get Myles Jack, we should take Lloyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lornoth Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Sometimes it's good to remember that Football is, in the end, just a game to be enjoyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconcrest58 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 14 minutes ago, falcons007 said: You don't throw tantrums with a week in to FA about a 2016 team. I still see lot of problems but its too early to panic. Heck I been throwing a tanturm about not having a legitimate pass rusher since 2010 noting that John Abraham was getting old....there's NO EXCUSES for TD......he's proven he can't do it. Hopefully SP and the other GMs can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted March 12, 2016 Author Share Posted March 12, 2016 7 minutes ago, kiwifalcon said: This is stupid yes we could easily afford them,mostly your making it sound like we didn't pony the $$$$ up.End of the day they chose Chicago > the ATL how in gods name is this the FO's fault. Because linebackers have been an issue for this team for years. That is how it's their fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted March 12, 2016 Author Share Posted March 12, 2016 9 minutes ago, FentayeJones said: Travathan is a little young though that why I prefer him, But truth be told we need to draft better so we wont have to chase FAs every off season. Almost every linebacker we have drafted recently has pretty much sucked. Exactly correct on both points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.11 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 2 hours ago, Falconsfan567 said: Dan Quinn definitely isn't earning any respect from me. He appears to be completely ******* clueless when it comes to building a team. I already knew Thomas Dimitroff was horseshit when it came to building a team worth a **** but I thought Dan Quinn actually knew what the heIl he was doing but between his terrible decision making in games last year and the pathetic horseshit excuse of trying to build this team I think he's in way over his head as a HC. Just so sick of this **** team right now not doing jackshit to try to win the Super Bowl. Really? The season doesn't start until about 6 months from now and you're complaining? You're making yourself look like a total hypocrite right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted March 12, 2016 Author Share Posted March 12, 2016 1 minute ago, JerseyNo12 said: Really? The season doesn't start until about 6 months from now and you're complaining? You're making yourself look like a total hypocrite right now. See this post here? 18 minutes ago, Falconsfan567 said: I know I'm catching all sorts of heIl for this rant but I do apologize for it. I'm normally a glass half full guy full of positives and trying to look at everything in a positive light. But dammit this franchise makes it hard to do that sometimes and that means I need to vent every now and then. But it's all good. I'll be rooting as hard as I always do come the first Sunday of the season. Never question my fandom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbenright Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 I love the Falcons. I am an Atlanta native and been a fan from the beginning of the franchise. We have no starting quality linebackers and have not for years. All of our LBs would be backups on other NFL teams. One reason our defense has sucked. As a fan it is very obvious. It should be obvious to the FO. Putting a second round tender on Worrilow was a joke. The other teams are lining up to steal him form us before this (I can only hope; but they are not that stupid).You cannot count on draft picks to work out. They may. They may not. Getting a reasonably priced FA LB who is proven is not too much to ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.11 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 1 minute ago, Falconsfan567 said: See this post here? Ok cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apl2g Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 2 hours ago, Falconsfan567 said: OMG!!!!!!!! If you are on the field all the time because your offense is always going 3 and out then that means you will get the chance to get more tackles. Why in the **** was that so hard for you to understand? And James Laurinitis is not an upgrade over Paul Worrilow. And no, I won't be grateful that the Falcons had a solid chance at signing a player that once upon a time might have been good but isn't any better than the guy we already have. Of course I'm wasting my breathe because this is the same message board that thinks Sean Weatherspoon and William Moore are great players. Yes Laurenitis may have had more opportunities to get tackles because he was I the field more but HE MADE THE TACKLES! That's the point. He is a sure tackler. Just because you give a by opportunities doesn't mean he's gonna bring the ball carrier down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLFalcons11 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 2 hours ago, Falconsfan567 said: This type of thinking has always cracked me up. I know **** well that some of the folks on this message board are smarter than some of the clowns that actually have jobs in the NFL. Guys like Fatboi and KOG, you don't think they could do a better job than the clowns that run **** franchises like the Browns that can't win more than 5 games every year and keep firing coaches? Also it's hard to sign a player if you never even bring him in for a visit. No player is going to sign without a visit. No offense to those two posters as I enjoy their posts but running a team isn't just what you see on the surface. If you want to say that there are posters that can do a certain aspect of the job better than others, then that's fine. But you have a very small snippet idea of what these folks do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcons007 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 9 minutes ago, falconcrest58 said: Heck I been throwing a tanturm about not having a legitimate pass rusher since 2010 noting that John Abraham was getting old....there's NO EXCUSES for TD......he's proven he can't do it. Hopefully SP and the other GMs can I have been pissed off long before 2010 for lack of pass rusher on other side of John Abraham . It started in 2007 with Jamal Anderson, the falcons could have had more play off wins and who knows SB with a pass rusher next to John Abraham. Too bad we don't even have the replacement of John Abraham now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbenright Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Laurenitis, Worrilow and Reed are probably not better than any of the LBs we can draft in the mid first round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outmyfalconmind Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Falconsfan567 said: This thread is about the Falcons not improving the worst part of our team, our linebackers, when it would have been really easy to do because the money handed out was next to nothing. But then they turn around and got no problem handing out $14M guaranteed to a bum like Sanu. I'm just going off you blaming Dan Quinn, now I don't disagree that TD has had enough time here, I do agree that we aren't moving in the right direction, signing sanu was our best option for filling a hole at receiver.. I think we've made enough moves that benefit DQ and what his plans are for the draft! Sanu prevents us from trying to go receiver early, Mack prevents us from C early, even Shelby sets us up to wait to draft DE in the 2nd so we can go LB in the 1st! I think everything done SO FAR in FA has allowed us to go defense heavy in the draft! I personally think Sanu was an outstanding singing, idk what we would've done if we let him leave. But I'm not one to get into the salary situation being that the money ain't mine Edited March 12, 2016 by Outmyfalconmind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Old Pappy Falcon* Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 3 hours ago, Falconsfan567 said: Dan Quinn definitely isn't earning any respect from me. He appears to be completely ******* clueless when it comes to building a team. I already knew Thomas Dimitroff was horseshit when it came to building a team worth a **** but I thought Dan Quinn actually knew what the heIl he was doing but between his terrible decision making in games last year and the pathetic horseshit excuse of trying to build this team I think he's in way over his head as a HC. Just so sick of this **** team right now not doing jackshit to try to win the Super Bowl. I agree to a point 567 5309. But Quinn will work this out for us all in the long run man. You will feel better after the draft brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted March 12, 2016 Author Share Posted March 12, 2016 Just call me Clark Griswold from now on. I probably need to change my SN and avatar to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoFalconsFan56 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 When we win the super bowl this year you do not have permission to celebrate it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted March 12, 2016 Author Share Posted March 12, 2016 Just now, MoFalconsFan56 said: When we win the super bowl this year you do not have permission to celebrate it Are you even serious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quest Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Personally I agree. I was a little underwhelmed with our signings except for Mack, but we really should slide our names into the trade for players now category with our draft picks where they're at because I'm one of many who are NOT sold on Ragland at 17. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoFalconsFan56 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 10 minutes ago, Falconsfan567 said: Are you even serious? Clearly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoFalconsFan56 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 You can celebrate the upcoming super bowl win all you want. This country isn't communist yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlfanstckndenver Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 3 hours ago, Falconsfan567 said: This type of thinking has always cracked me up. I know **** well that some of the folks on this message board are smarter than some of the clowns that actually have jobs in the NFL. Guys like Fatboi and KOG, you don't think they could do a better job than the clowns that run **** franchises like the Browns that can't win more than 5 games every year and keep firing coaches? Also it's hard to sign a player if you never even bring him in for a visit. No player is going to sign without a visit. To be fair though, it takes two to tango. @ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Positive Thinker Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 3 hours ago, Falconsfan567 said: Dan Quinn definitely isn't earning any respect from me. He appears to be completely ******* clueless when it comes to building a team. I already knew Thomas Dimitroff was horseshit when it came to building a team worth a **** but I thought Dan Quinn actually knew what the heIl he was doing but between his terrible decision making in games last year and the pathetic horseshit excuse of trying to build this team I think he's in way over his head as a HC. Just so sick of this **** team right now not doing jackshit to try to win the Super Bowl. I just reported you for bad language. You should be ashamed you low life classless mongrel. No excuse, not to mention that you are way off base on your opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 1 hour ago, Falconsfan567 said: Because linebackers have been an issue for this team for years. That is how it's their fault. Again under different regimes though so if you draft a Lofton type he may not fit what Nolan or Quinn may want to do hence why when coaching and schemes change so do players.I don't se it through lack of trying and for the most part they have tried but the the fans mind changes and they off on another position. Fans want perfection that's unattainable in life for the most part. I just think everything has to be taken into perspective there's way to many knee jerk reactions especially when we still have the draft to go to address your concerns or will they change if a certain part is fixed and another isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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