Falconsfan567 Posted March 12, 2016 Author Share Posted March 12, 2016 9 minutes ago, toadfishtom said: Relax Dude you are a long time Falcon fan..........you should expect this .....the season hasn't started yet ! I should expect it but the problem is I let myself get sucked into "this is year things change" crap every year but things never do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takeitdown Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 I'm stupefied that we haven't signed any quality LBs, especially when they're going for about 4-6 mil/yr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted March 12, 2016 Author Share Posted March 12, 2016 Just now, takeitdown said: I'm stupefied that we haven't signed any quality LBs, especially when they're going for about 4-6 mil/yr. A****ingman!!! Thank God someone else on here has a little common sense and can see the light of day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgrimes Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 14 minutes ago, Trick Montalban said: I'm glad I've only been a Falcons fan for about a decade, I don't possess this type of bitterness. I think the organization is fine and it's way too early to decide if the offseason was bad or not. ive been a fan since the 70s, how do you think I feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takeitdown Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Also, even if you get guys you have to phase out in a few years...that's fine. You need to not be so reliant on specific needs in the draft, such that if anything happens ahead of you, you have to reach for talent. Take a freeman, and then draft a player too. If he pushes freeman to the bench...outstanding, you have great depth and you know your younguns are ready to play because you made them earn it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apl2g Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 1 minute ago, takeitdown said: I'm stupefied that we haven't signed any quality LBs, especially when they're going for about 4-6 mil/yr. It's not for a lack of trying. They have been reported to be talking to a few of them. The guys are just choosing to go elsewhere for whatever reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockerfalcon Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 8 minutes ago, Falconsfan567 said: This type of thinking has always cracked me up. I know **** well that some of the folks on this message board are smarter than some of the clowns that actually have jobs in the NFL. Guys like Fatboi and KOG, you don't think they could do a better job than the clowns that run **** franchises like the Browns that can't win more than 5 games every year and keep firing coaches? Also it's hard to sign a player if you never even bring him in for a visit. No player is going to sign without a visit. LMAO that you are serious when you say that there are people who could do a better job than guys in the NFL. Wasn't KOG the guy who said Freeman wouldn't ever amount to anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted March 12, 2016 Author Share Posted March 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, apl2g said: It's not for a lack of trying. They have been reported to be talking to a few of them. The guys are just choosing to go elsewhere for whatever reason Did Trevathan and Freeman even visit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted March 12, 2016 Author Share Posted March 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, takeitdown said: Also, even if you get guys you have to phase out in a few years...that's fine. You need to not be so reliant on specific needs in the draft, such that if anything happens ahead of you, you have to reach for talent. Take a freeman, and then draft a player too. If he pushes freeman to the bench...outstanding, you have great depth and you know your younguns are ready to play because you made them earn it. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted March 12, 2016 Author Share Posted March 12, 2016 1 minute ago, shockerfalcon said: LMAO that you are serious when you say that there are people who could do a better job than guys in the NFL. Wasn't KOG the guy who said Freeman wouldn't ever amount to anything Name 1 GM that has never been wrong! You name me just 1 and I'll kiss your ***!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capologist Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 5 minutes ago, takeitdown said: I'm stupefied that we haven't signed any quality LBs, especially when they're going for about 4-6 mil/yr. Why pay 4-6 million when you can get the same ability younger and cheaper in the draft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridder Me This Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 6 minutes ago, Falconsfan567 said: I have tried to explain this on here many times, if you are on the field all the time then naturally you're going to get a bunch of tackles. It's how you get those tackles that matters. How many of them are tackles for loss? How many are tackles to keep a team from converting a 1st down on 3rd or 4th down? Things like that need to be taken into consideration. The Rams have been a **** franchise for many years now, especially on offense, which means their defense is on the field more than other teams which means their players are going to get the chance to rack up more tackles. London Fletcher used to lead the NFL in tackles every single year and I don't think he ever played in a single playoff game because he was always on ****** teams. You are probably right in some way....I guess teams leave bad players on the field as much as possible? It was probably 100% London Fletcher's fault as to why his teams never won playoff games...For some reason I keep remembering London Fletcher being on those Rams teams in the Super Bowl? He only led the NFL in tackles once, BYT... The point of the matter is this: Laurainitis will be an upgrade over Worrilow...are folks upset Trevathan or Freeman weren't signed...probably, but nonetheless, Laurinitis is an upgrade and sure tackler... Be grateful and glad we have a solid chance at him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockerfalcon Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Just now, Falconsfan567 said: Did Trevathan and Freeman even visit? Trevathan didn't visit any teams other than Chicago pretty obvious he wanted to play for Fox. Chicago was Freeman's first visit to another team after talks with Indy fell through pretty obvious he liked what they were selling enough not to entertain anymore offers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted March 12, 2016 Author Share Posted March 12, 2016 Just now, capologist said: Why pay 4-6 million when you can get the same ability younger and cheaper in the draft? Because this front office can't draft linebackers worth a **** and since when is 4-6 mil too much to pay on quality players? This front office just gave 14 mil guaranteed to a bum receiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridder Me This Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 9 minutes ago, Falconsfan567 said: Exactly. So why do we not want to try to sign any good linebackers when our linebackers have been **** for years? Scheme fit? Film review? Draft priority? IDK the answer...but to suggest that DQ, TD, and others don't know what they want or are doing, is a stretch... They have a plan....they aren't just throwing darts... Would you also like folks to attend Pro Day and make good evaluations on draft picks? OR are you in the full on negative boat that thinks no one in our FO or coaching staff can do anything right? Be positive...you will be happier and live longer man...trust in the system and let things happen... Our win loss record last year was not due to talent on the field....we made too many mistakes in key moments.... Honestly, to go from 4-12, 6-10 to 8-8...that was a good season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted March 12, 2016 Author Share Posted March 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, Matt_The Iceman_Ryan said: You are probably right in some way....I guess teams leave bad players on the field as much as possible? It was probably 100% London Fletcher's fault as to why his teams never won playoff games...For some reason I keep remembering London Fletcher being on those Rams teams in the Super Bowl? He only led the NFL in tackles once, BYT... The point of the matter is this: Laurainitis will be an upgrade over Worrilow...are folks upset Trevathan or Freeman weren't signed...probably, but nonetheless, Laurinitis is an upgrade and sure tackler... Be grateful and glad we have a solid chance at him... OMG!!!!!!!! If you are on the field all the time because your offense is always going 3 and out then that means you will get the chance to get more tackles. Why in the **** was that so hard for you to understand? And James Laurinitis is not an upgrade over Paul Worrilow. And no, I won't be grateful that the Falcons had a solid chance at signing a player that once upon a time might have been good but isn't any better than the guy we already have. Of course I'm wasting my breathe because this is the same message board that thinks Sean Weatherspoon and William Moore are great players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted March 12, 2016 Author Share Posted March 12, 2016 1 minute ago, Matt_The Iceman_Ryan said: Scheme fit? Film review? Draft priority? IDK the answer...but to suggest that DQ, TD, and others don't know what they want or are doing, is a stretch... They have a plan....they aren't just throwing darts... Would you also like folks to attend Pro Day and make good evaluations on draft picks? OR are you in the full on negative boat that thinks no one in our FO or coaching staff can do anything right? Be positive...you will be happier and live longer man...trust in the system and let things happen... Our win loss record last year was not due to talent on the field....we made too many mistakes in key moments.... Honestly, to go from 4-12, 6-10 to 8-8...that was a good season... I'm tired of being positive and getting my hopes up that this is the year things change and then come December it's the same crap we've seen every year. Now I'm just being realistic. Until this franchise proves they know what the heIl they are doing they do not get the benefit of the doubt from me. 1 playoff win in 8 years that Thomas Dimitroff has been here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takeitdown Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 8 minutes ago, capologist said: Why pay 4-6 million when you can get the same ability younger and cheaper in the draft? For a variety of reasons. The primary one is if you have 8 holes, and 4 draft picks...you're not going to cover them all. The second reason is...if you can fill a hole for 4 million in FA, that enables you to take a position in the draft that costs way more in FA. It's good fiscal sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockerfalcon Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 5 minutes ago, Falconsfan567 said: Name 1 GM that has never been wrong! You name me just 1 and I'll kiss your ***!! Not sure what that has to do with anything because it is irrelevant. Just because those fans know more than you about football doesn't mean that they should be running an NFL team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted March 12, 2016 Author Share Posted March 12, 2016 1 minute ago, takeitdown said: For a variety of reasons. The primary one is if you have 8 holes, and 4 draft picks...you're not going to cover them all. The second reason is...if you can fill a hole for 4 million in FA, that enables you to take a position in the draft that costs way more in FA. It's good fiscal sense. Yeah! We've got 4 quality draft picks and we need at least 2 linebackers worth a ****, someone that can get to the passer, another WR according to some here, another guard, maybe a safety and a defensive tackle. Can't fill all those spots in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridder Me This Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, Falconsfan567 said: OMG!!!!!!!! If you are on the field all the time because your offense is always going 3 and out then that means you will get the chance to get more tackles. Why in the **** was that so hard for you to understand? And James Laurinitis is not an upgrade over Paul Worrilow. And no, I won't be grateful that the Falcons had a solid chance at signing a player that once upon a time might have been good but isn't any better than the guy we already have. Of course I'm wasting my breathe because this is the same message board that thinks Sean Weatherspoon and William Moore are great players. Simmer down now...it's just a message board... Yes, the probability of tackles for an individual is higher if playing more downs.... Our opinions differ on who is better Laurainitis or Worrilow...I can agree to disagree.. Never thought Moore or Spoon were great players.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted March 12, 2016 Author Share Posted March 12, 2016 1 minute ago, shockerfalcon said: Not sure what that has to do with anything because it is irrelevant. Just because those fans know more than you about football doesn't mean that they should be running an NFL team. You called out KOG because he was wrong about Freeman. So I'm asking you to name a GM that has never been wrong. If you're going to rag on KOG for being wrong about 1 player then I expect you to backup your point by naming just 1 GM that has never been wrong about 1 player. You're the one trying to prove that KOG doesn't know enough to be running an NFL team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capologist Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 3 minutes ago, takeitdown said: For a variety of reasons. The primary one is if you have 8 holes, and 4 draft picks...you're not going to cover them all. The second reason is...if you can fill a hole for 4 million in FA, that enables you to take a position in the draft that costs way more in FA. It's good fiscal sense. That's a lot of assumptions though. I'm going to see the entire thing play out before forming an opinion but that's just me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gHost83 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 I'm sorry, but I don't have a clue what the FO is doing. We will continue to get raped by TEs next year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capologist Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 3 minutes ago, Falconsfan567 said: Yeah! We've got 4 quality draft picks and we need at least 2 linebackers worth a ****, someone that can get to the passer, another WR according to some here, another guard, maybe a safety and a defensive tackle. Can't fill all those spots in the draft. And free agency hasn't ended yet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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