Shaggy 2.0 Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 (edited) The Raiders have agree in principle with Osemele. The raiders are schooling us on how to protect their franchise QB. Actually no- I doubt they are 100% sold on Carr. K. MACK is their franchise right now. This isnt the first time they went out and got top talent for their O-line to protect Carr. Granted TD has tried and tried to get Oline help- and every single one was a bust until our current RT and LT. You would think that after the disaster of Holmes and Konz they would stop drafting projects and bargain shopping FA Oline. I hope we go get Mack from the Browns/FA pool. Stop messing around with the window we have. Get it done. Bring in the guy that can let Matt Ryan do his thing. Draft Mike Mathews and let him back up Mack but at the same time compete for the OG position which I am fairly confident he can play as well. Not as easy as that but Mack helps fix the middle of the line. Mike Mathews to play guard and learn to play center from a great. Let him take over in three to five years. Edited March 9, 2016 by Shagpill 2.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff_Man Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 1. Oakland's last playoff appearance was 2002. They aren't "schooling" anyone on anything. 2. Nice ******* font size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Can you wait until he can actually sign before you make stupid threads like this??? I say this because evne if he agrees to them he can still be signed away by another team. A great example Jordan Cameron had agreed to a deal with the Browns and then actually signed with the phins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelley#37 Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 1 minute ago, Duff_Man said: 1. Oakland's last playoff appearance was 2002. The only thing they aren't "schooling" anyone on anything. 2. Nice ******* font size. And the Raiders have eleventy-billion dollars in cap space Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Pimp Named Slickback™ Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 I don't see how this would be schooling the Falcons. C is a more pressing need for us than G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 This is moronic. Osemele is getting paid LT money. We have a LT. Just b/c the guy you wanted wasn't pursued doesn't mean you have to make a thread to whine about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Lol, just wow. Maybe we can merge this into the 'free agency around here is annoying' thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayOzOne Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 9 minutes ago, Shagpill 2.0 said: The Raiders have agree in principle with Osemele. The raiders are schooling us on how to protect their franchise QB. Actually no- I doubt they are 100% sold on Carr. K. MACK is their franchise right now. This isnt the first time they went out and got top talent for their O-line to protect Carr. Granted TD has tried and tried to get Oline help- and every single one was a bust until our current RT and LT. You would think that after the disaster of Holmes and Konz they would stop drafting projects and bargain shopping FA Oline. I hope we go get Mack from the Browns/FA pool. Stop messing around with the window we have. Get it done. Bring in the guy that can let Matt Ryan do his thing. Draft Mike Mathews and let him back up Mack but at the same time compete for the OG position which I am fairly confident he can play as well. Not as easy as that but Mack helps fix the middle of the line. Mike Mathews to play guard and learn to play center from a great. Let him take over in three to five years. I could hide dead bodies in the spaces between these lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzard_falcon Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 This thread would make some sense if the Falcons had actually shown any interest in trying to sign Osemele. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy 2.0 Posted March 8, 2016 Author Share Posted March 8, 2016 5 minutes ago, A Pimp Named Slickback™ said: I don't see how this would be schooling the Falcons. C is a more pressing need for us than G I'm pretty sure the interior is equally a pressing need at each position. Did you see where the pressure came from this past season. 5 minutes ago, hjerry said: This is moronic. Osemele is getting paid LT money. We have a LT. Just b/c the guy you wanted wasn't pursued doesn't mean you have to make a thread to whine about it. This thread wasnt about me wanting Osemele- it was about making a move on what would fix the oline. We have plenty in Cap space and we never get more then 3 FA every year and this is the year we need to make one of them be on the online. That is what this is about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyhairy Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 4 minutes ago, HMFIC said: Ryan will still not be effective until the stubborn Shanahan changes his system a bit to accent Ryan's strong points instead of forcing Ryan into his system. Having Ryan roll out is absurd, Shanahan's stubborness is going to cost us another bad year unless he changes. Don't know how it was Shanny's fault for the scrwd up center exchanges or the int's matt threw while sitting in the pocket. Don' t know how shanny allowed Cam newton to run 80 yards after seemingly was tackled or 25 other glaring mistakes by professional athletes. Did Shanny cause Roddy to drop that 1st down pass against N.O. which cost us the win? Did Shanny miss the field goals against Tampa? All this blame shanny crap is just that. BTW - Matt looks comfortable rolling out. Matt also threw for 4500 yards or some such huge number. We also had all pro's in our backfield at RB, Fullback, Wideout and Matt is a consummate pro bowler. Not sure what game you watched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 The Raiders haven't schooled anyone since the 80s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDawgMania Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Falcons didnt have interest in him. think before you post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayOzOne Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 So, spending a ton on the player likely to be the highest paid interior lineman (and costing us the opportunity to make multiple other upgrades) is how we should go at free agency? I sure hope he's not the only O-line prospect available. He turned down what the Ravens considered to be a fat contract to move to the Raiders who can outspend almost everybody except Jacksonville. Maybe we should have offered him all of our available cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 6 minutes ago, Shagpill 2.0 said: I'm pretty sure the interior is equally a pressing need at each position. Did you see where the pressure came from this past season. This thread wasnt about me wanting Osemele- it was about making a move on what would fix the oline. We have plenty in Cap space and we never get more then 3 FA every year and this is the year we need to make one of them be on the online. That is what this is about. Then the thread makes even less sense dude. You're entire premise, based on what's first, in bold, and in your tags, was that Osemele getting signed by the Raiders is them "schooling" us on how to protect our QB. Thread Fail man. Don't put all your focus on something if that's not the point lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Tzu 7 Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Improve the Center position and the Guards may automatically get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 1 minute ago, Sun Tzu 7 said: Improve the Center position and the Guards may automatically get better. True You typically want a great center or great guards on the interior. They tend to make each other look better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy 2.0 Posted March 8, 2016 Author Share Posted March 8, 2016 1 minute ago, DirtyBird1990 said: Falcons didnt have interest in him. think before you post. Read the post before you post. Bless your heart. 2 minutes ago, Worzone said: The Raiders haven't schooled anyone since the 80s Its like talking to Redskin or Eagle fans on this board. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PLAYER THEY PICKED UP OR THE RAIDERS FOR THAT MATTER. Plug in the Broncos. they went out and got the OG they wanted to protect Manning last year. Look at what the saints did for Brees back with Bushrod and the other guard back in the day. Cam has one of the better olines in front of him. Cousins has a great oline in front of him. This is about us not protecting arguably our best player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiv_T_E_C_O_ Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 (edited) The Raiders had the cap space to make this guy the highest paid guard. They didn't school anyone, they haven't since 2002, but they might be getting ready to do it again. Their interior O line is scary now, Jackson, Hudson, and now Osemele. Edited March 8, 2016 by xiv_T_E_C_O_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherdome Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 21 minutes ago, hjerry said: This is moronic. Osemele is getting paid LT money. We have a LT. Just b/c the guy you wanted wasn't pursued doesn't mean you have to make a thread to whine about it. The reason Osemele is getting paid LT money is because he can play LT at a solid level. We don't need Osemele, we NEED a Center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyhairy Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 7 minutes ago, HMFIC said: What games were YOU watching ? Ryan does NOT look comfortable rolling out, he is a pocket passer, and one of the best in the pocket. Instead of taking advantage of a pro bowl QBs natural abilities, Shanny is trying to force a square peg into a round hole by forcing his system on this team. He could at least ask Ryan what some of his favorite plays are and incorporate some of them into the offense. That's called good coaching. Refusing to take input from players in team meetings is just obstinate. This stubborness has been a trademark of Shanny's everywhere he has been. Unless he changes, bad things lie ahead until he is gone. I think you are wrong. You didn't answer to my questions about players faults, not shanny. Matt is a great athlete and of course he is a pocket passer but he can roll out effectively as well. This whole hoopla that Ryan is flumixed by shanny is BS. Ryan was rolling out to protect his life and it worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy 2.0 Posted March 8, 2016 Author Share Posted March 8, 2016 18 minutes ago, hjerry said: Then the thread makes even less sense dude. You're entire premise, based on what's first, in bold, and in your tags, was that Osemele getting signed by the Raiders is them "schooling" us on how to protect our QB. Thread Fail man. Don't put all your focus on something if that's not the point lol haha again, Osemele signing was a example of what I was talking about. I didn't realize I needed to break this down and hold your hand like a small child through the whole thing. I understand that you are part of a generation of board posters that dont have the attention span beyond a sentence or two or something put in bold. As I type this I realize that you probably stopped reading at "again". My premise was the fact the falcons are yet again sitting on the side lines and are probably going to go bargain shopping again. And stop using "fail" hopefully your not a teenager still using it- well if you arent that means you're a grown person using it... both ways are sad and you should stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return of the Gaucho Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 12 minutes ago, Shagpill 2.0 said: haha again, Osemele signing was a example of what I was talking about. I didn't realize I needed to break this down and hold your hand like a small child through the whole thing. I understand that you are part of a generation of board posters that dont have the attention span beyond a sentence or two or something put in bold. As I type this I realize that you probably stopped reading at "again". My premise was the fact the falcons are yet again sitting on the side lines and are probably going to go bargain shopping again. And stop using "fail" hopefully your not a teenager still using it- well if you arent that means you're a grown person using it... both ways are sad and you should stop. hyperbole: check ad hominem: check unrealistic understanding of the salary cap and free agency success: check Three for three man, good start to the morning for you! There is bargain shopping, and then there is not wanting to make someone the highest paid player at their position simply because cellar dwelling teams with tons of cap space feel the need to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy5prings Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 If you want an example of a Front Office that's way better than the Falcons', just go 250 miles up I-85N. Carolina's FO has been everything that TD has not been - they have hit on pretty much every top 3 round draft pick and then found some diamonds in the rough in late rounds and UDFA especially in the trenches and in the Defensive Front 7. Oakland has been a black hole (no pun intended) for talent for 20 years and only recently showing signs of life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insight Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 (edited) 38 minutes ago, dirtyhairy said: I think you are wrong. You didn't answer to my questions about players faults, not shanny. Matt is a great athlete and of course he is a pocket passer but he can roll out effectively as well. This whole hoopla that Ryan is flumixed by shanny is BS. Ryan was rolling out to protect his life and it worked. So why was everybody blaming Smitty when he was here but now it's all about the players? Matt Ryan did not chose to cut the starting center 1 week before the regular season started! The Center calls the blocking assignments and snaps the ball so who's great idea was it to use someone who NEVER PLAYED THE POSITION at the NFL level in a NEW OFFENSE! Why is Matt Ryan running read option plays and naked bootlegs when he has NEVER shown a propensity to excel at this at the NFL level? When the running game headed by Devonta Freeman was proven to be the foundation of the offensive attack why did the offensive coordinator decide call passing plays at a 70% to 30 % ratio? Ultimately players are responsible for execution but coaches put there players in a position to be successful, Shanny did not do that. Edited March 8, 2016 by insight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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