FentayeJones Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 vaughn mcclure @vxmcclure23 1m1 minute ago Falcons also have extended 2nd round tender to starting right tackle and restricted free agent Ryan Schraeder,... http://es.pn/1X6StLw vaughn mcclure @vxmcclure23 15m15 minutes ago The Falcons plan to extend the 2nd-round tender to restricted free agent LB Paul Worrilow, according to multiple... http://es.pn/1X6QsPu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentayeJones Posted March 7, 2016 Author Share Posted March 7, 2016 vaughn mcclure @vxmcclure23 2m2 minutes ago Early word is no tender for Nate Stupar but likely a contract offer. We will see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
direwolf Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Second round for Schraeder? Really? I'd have thought higher considering how well he played. Maybe they're hoping to get a long-term deal in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOR Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 In b4 complaints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzard_falcon Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 2 minutes ago, direwolf said: Second round for Schraeder? Really? I'd have thought higher considering how well he played. Maybe they're hoping to get a long-term deal in place. Yeah, I figured we'd just hit him with the 1st round tender to be safe. That tender's salary cost is still a huge bargain for a top-tier RT. Hopefully we sign him and Stupar to long-term deals. I could care les about Worrilow, though keeping him this year as a backup and ST ace is smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 I'm sure they have a plan, but a second round pick for an upper tier RT who is only 27 is a deal. If I'm on another team, I'm licking my chops at that one. Conversely, if we got a second round pick for Worrilow, I'd do backflips of joy. (Then, I'd go to the hospital after severely injuring myself.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK Manley Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 $2.3 million apiece. Expected for Schraeder...fine with it for Worrilow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin_Pernett Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Can someone please give us a second for Worrilow? I mean the GM that did that should be fired immediately, but I can still dream Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chhhyeahtone Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 What's interesting is that they want both Worrilow and James Laurinaitis. They might actually be thinking of James as a Will and draft a guy early to develop as future Will. It's impossible to tell until the offseason is over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 25 minutes ago, direwolf said: Second round for Schraeder? Really? I'd have thought higher considering how well he played. Maybe they're hoping to get a long-term deal in place. 16 minutes ago, jidady said: I'm sure they have a plan, but a second round pick for an upper tier RT who is only 27 is a deal. If I'm on another team, I'm licking my chops at that one. Conversely, if we got a second round pick for Worrilow, I'd do backflips of joy. (Then, I'd go to the hospital after severely injuring myself.) Honestly, they're probably inviting other teams to think about it. They'd still have the right to match any deals he got and if they got outpriced, they'd add a valuable pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Sarcomere Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Hopefully we can iron out a long term deal with Schraeder. Nothing suprising here though. Hopefully there's a team stupid enough to sign Worrilow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlantaFanatic Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Can someone explain to me how placing a draft pick tender on a guy works. I understand that they are RFA's but is the draft pick round you place on their tender arbitrary or is there some set of rules you have to follow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Sarcomere Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 3 minutes ago, AtlantaFanatic said: Can someone explain to me how placing a draft pick tender on a guy works. I understand that they are RFA's but is the draft pick round you place on their tender arbitrary or is there some set of rules you have to follow? A second round tender means that if a team decides to sign him they'll have to fork over a second round pick to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schwarzenegger321 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 4 minutes ago, AtlantaFanatic said: Can someone explain to me how placing a draft pick tender on a guy works. I understand that they are RFA's but is the draft pick round you place on their tender arbitrary or is there some set of rules you have to follow? Basically with a RFA you place a tender on a player which is worth a certain amount of money. A second round tender means we have to pay a minimum of around 2.2 million per year for that player. If a team comes in and offers more they could take the player, but they owe us a 2nd round draft pick in this years draft. We also can match the offer made by the other team, which means we keep the player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlantaFanatic Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 6 minutes ago, Lord Sarcomere said: A second round tender means that if a team decides to sign him they'll have to fork over a second round pick to us. Yeah I knew that part. I was referring to what dictates when they have a 1st round, 2nd round, 3rd round, etc. tender on them. 5 minutes ago, schwarzenegger321 said: Basically with a RFA you place a tender on a player which is worth a certain amount of money. A second round tender means we have to pay a minimum of around 2.2 million per year for that player. Thanks Governator. That's the part I didn't know. So how much is the minimum salary of a first round tender? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romfal Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 15 minutes ago, AtlantaFanatic said: Can someone explain to me how placing a draft pick tender on a guy works. I understand that they are RFA's but is the draft pick round you place on their tender arbitrary or is there some set of rules you have to follow? the higher the tender the more we have to pay them and the pick from other teams to sign the player is higher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK Manley Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 2 minutes ago, AtlantaFanatic said: 1 minute ago, Romfal said: the higher the tender the more we have to pay them and the pick from other teams to sign the player is higher Was about to post similar, so I'll just add this link with the $$$ amounts and info. http://overthecap.com/rfa-tender-tracker/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzard_falcon Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 21 minutes ago, AtlantaFanatic said: Can someone explain to me how placing a draft pick tender on a guy works. I understand that they are RFA's but is the draft pick round you place on their tender arbitrary or is there some set of rules you have to follow? Restricted Free Agents– These are players that have at least three years of accrued service in the NFL. Due to changes in the draft process, which now mandates four year contracts, these players are almost exclusively Undrafted Free Agents. In this case, the team with which they finished the 2015 season holds the right through March 9 at 4 PM to extend a tender offer to the player. A tender allows the former team to exhibit a level of control over the player in free agency, similar to the franchise tag. At a minimum every tender allows them to match the offer sheet made by another team. RFAs are allowed to negotiate with other teams, even if a tender is applied, starting at 4 PM on March 9. Tenders count on the salary cap as soon as applied, provided they factor into the Top 51, which most do. The team can place one of three tenders on the player. The highest tender is the 1st round compensation tender, meaning if another team signs the player and the original team decides to not match it the new team will have to give the team a 1st round draft pick in 2016. If the team does not own their first round pick (such as the Patriots) they are unable to sign the restricted free agent. The other tenders are a 2nd round tender, original draft round, and finally right of first refusal tender. The ROFR means you get no compensation if you decide to not match the offer sheet. Teams have five days to match the new offer sheet. During that time period the player will count on both teams’ salary cap. The tender offer is a non-guaranteed one year contract amount based on the compensation level. In 2016 the tenders are $3.635 million for the 1st round tender, $2.553 million for the 2nd round tender, and $1.671 million for the original round and ROFR tenders. The RFA free agency period is shorter than that of the regular unrestricted free agent, ending this year on April 22. Once the April 22 deadline passes the player can only negotiate with the team that tendered them. Often once the RFA free agency period is complete, teams will use the leverage to reduce the costs of these contracts, specifically for the low tendered players, since they know the players’ options are limited. What they will do is offer the player a minimum salary and a guaranteed bonus somewhere between $100,000 and $300,000. The total compensation is lower but at least there is some job security. Just because a player is extended a tender does not mean he can’t find a new home. Teams will sometimes work out trades for these players at lower compensation levels. For example the Saints tendered RB Chris Ivory in 2013 at the 2nd round level with the hopes of trading him as he was going to be unaffordable on their salary cap once the roster expanded to 53 players. Before the draft he was traded to the Jets, where he signed a three year contract. If a player is not tendered -- or the tender is rescinded before a player is signed -- he immediately becomes an unrestricted free agent, free to sign with any team. These players do not factor into the compensatory draft equations. It is very rare for an RFA to switch teams, but it does occasionally happen. In 2014, Andrew Hawkins signed an offer sheet with the Browns that the Bengals refused to match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherdome Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Hopefully, this will lead to a long-term deal for Schraeder. To be honest, I would not mind a second-rounder in exchange for Worrilow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schwarzenegger321 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 5 minutes ago, AtlantaFanatic said: Yeah I knew that part. I was referring to what dictates when they have a 1st round, 2nd round, 3rd round, etc. tender on them. Thanks Governator. That's the part I didn't know. So how much is the minimum salary of a first round tender? I believe this year a first rounder is worth around 3.3 million. There are three levels of RFA tenders a first, second and something called right of first refusal/original offer. The first and second are pretty self explanatory. The right of first refusal means the player can refuse the offer and if a team does make an offer and the player agrees the team taking the player has to give the other team the draft pick(s) that the player was originally drafted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toadfishtom Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 1 minute ago, etherdome said: Hopefully, this will lead to a long-term deal for Schraeder. To be honest, I would not mind a second-rounder in exchange for Worrilow. Best possible outcome ^^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlantaFanatic Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 12 minutes ago, PK Manley said: Was about to post similar, so I'll just add this link with the $$$ amounts and info. http://overthecap.com/rfa-tender-tracker/ Thanks. I knew that a team had to give up that round pick if they wanted to sign them away but I didn't realize you had to pay them a minimum amount of money based on the round tender you put on them. I was trying to figure out how teams just didn't put a first round tender on all their players so they wouldn't lose them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeytonMannings Forehead Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 So basically they really want to keep Worrilow. Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 35 minutes ago, AtlantaFanatic said: Can someone explain to me how placing a draft pick tender on a guy works. I understand that they are RFA's but is the draft pick round you place on their tender arbitrary or is there some set of rules you have to follow? There are three designations: 1st Round, 2nd round, and original round. Each of the three costs ~$1m more for the one year. So an OR is ~$1m, a 2nd is $2.3, a 1st is $3.3 (IIRC). You're allowed to designate whichever you prefer. By tendering the RFA at the given level, the player has two options: 1) Sign the one year tender and play for the corresponding amount OR 2) shop the open market for a better deal. The tendering team has the option to match any contract offer received by the RFA on the open market. If they choose not to match, they receive the tender value in return. If an undrafted player is given an original round tender, the team receives no compensation from the other team. The one spot I'm not sure of is how RFAs affect compensatory picks. That's a Prof question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 4 minutes ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said: So basically they really want to keep Worrilow. Interesting. Ugh. I'm not even sure what you do with him. Move him to strong side on run downs? Thats an awful lot of cash for a reserve LB with limited physical abilities. I'd rather have let him walk and taken the chance at a comp pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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