JRob215 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 5 hours ago, DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry said: I would much rather us pay Marvin Jones $7m per year than Sanu $5m per year. Exactly. The gap between these two is as wide as the ocean. From PFF: WR Mohamed Sanu His threat to be a passer on rare trick plays adds an extra dimension to the Bengals’ offense, but as a receiver, Sanu simply doesn’t offer enough for the Bengals to extend his stay in Cincinnati. A career-high 104 targets in 2014 yielded a league-high 14 drops; a year later, the emergence of TE Tyler Eifert and a full season from Marvin Jones saw Sanu marginalized in the Bengals’ offense. For the role in the offense that Sanu would fill, the Bengals can get better value by drafting a replacement for Sanu and letting him walk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 10 minutes ago, g-dawg said: this is Dunta laughing all the way to the bank - after stealing money from the Falcons Wheres the picture of Dunta starting an NFC Championship game? Couldn't find one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 7 minutes ago, DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry said: Wheres the picture of Dunta starting an NFC Championship game? Couldn't find one? what does that prove? so because we had Julio, Michael Turner, Roddy(in prime still) and Tony Gonzalez - somehow because Dunta was on the NFC Championship runner-up roster/starter that is supposed to mean something? Falcons made it that far in spite of the defense and Dunta - not because of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 6 hours ago, HaRdH3ad said: Rather have Benjamin. The amount of pressure he and Julio could put on a defense would be deadly imo Benjamin is a baller just waiting to bust out!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDog90 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 9 hours ago, 1989Fan said: in regard to Mario....the Falcons admitted they hurt Clayborn's performance by moving him inside, that he was much more dominant from the outside. Maybe they feel they can get the same production from Clay at $5-7M per seasons as they can from Mario at 8-12M per season? That said, I would much rather have Mario Williams. As long as they draft a DE to play behind Clay I'd be cool with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sipifalcon Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 So what Is it abt sanu?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 58 minutes ago, g-dawg said: what does that prove? so because we had Julio, Michael Turner, Roddy(in prime still) and Tony Gonzalez - somehow because Dunta was on the NFC Championship runner-up roster/starter that is supposed to mean something? Falcons made it that far in spite of the defense and Dunta - not because of it. He was a valuable contributor on a good team. Was he a lockdown, elite corner? No. Was he overpaid? Sure. But he was a valuable piece of a very good football team. And ultimately, that's what you're hoping when you sign a guy to a contract. Even if you overpay. For some reason, people expect any FA the Falcons bring in to be a top-of-the-league elite player....despite 20+ years of FA history telling us that such a thing rarely happens for ANY player on any team, let alone all the players on your favorite team. And let's not get into the names that get tossed around as must-have targets that don't do anything, only to be forgotten ignored when we fire up the retroscope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Cornerbacks are always overpaid. Wait until year three of Trufant extension and he isn't the same CB that you remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYNE Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 11 hours ago, g-dawg said: If we sign Sanu, does that mean we cut Roddy? Hahaha 100% guarantee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 8 hours ago, DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry said: I would much rather us pay Marvin Jones $7m per year than Sanu $5m per year. Jones is a legitimate very good WR2. Sanu is fine. Jones>>>Kearse>Bejamin>>>Sanu You make a lot of sense. But i see Jones getting overpaid to be a number 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Minotaur Zebra Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 9 hours ago, Knight of God said: Interesting to see what Danny does with lesspasd rush and run stopping. I like Sanu, but not to replace anyone at this time. I can't shake the feeling that Trevathan will be a very average LB behind a DL that isn't the Broncos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faithful Falcon Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Heard that we are looking at Reggie Nelson too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 3 hours ago, g-dawg said: what does that prove? so because we had Julio, Michael Turner, Roddy(in prime still) and Tony Gonzalez - somehow because Dunta was on the NFC Championship runner-up roster/starter that is supposed to mean something? Falcons made it that far in spite of the defense and Dunta - not because of it. Dunta was part a secondary who gave up the fewest tds in the nfl....that was a huge part of our success... nothing in spite of at all. He turned in a nice season in 2012. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigerfan Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 The other poster was right in the Trevathan will likely command $8M+. I've warmed up to signing Rolando McClain for less than half of that and letting him and Worrilow compete. Bring in Zach Brown on a prove it contract to take over Durant's spot. He was misused in the 3-4 with the Titans. Use some of that savings to sign a real pass rusher like Williams or Pierre Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin_Pernett Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 6 hours ago, Conquistador Zebra said: I can't shake the feeling that Trevathan will be a very average LB behind a DL that isn't the Broncos. Well I feel like Richard Smith knows what kind of player he really is so if the Falcons want to pay him big money I have faith in the decision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 13 hours ago, youngbloodz said: You make a lot of sense. But i see Jones getting overpaid to be a number 1 That's a concern for sure. But a few things lead me to think we can get him for a reasonable, mid-level deal: 1) I think EVERYONE assumes he's going to be overpaid which could, in theory, push the market down a bit. If everyone thinks he'll be out of their reach, we'd likely be competing with fewer bidders and could maybe get him for a decent WR2 deal. I mean, he's nice and all but he can't possibly expect money like a Randall Cobb or Jordy Nelson, guys at the "bottom" of the WR1 tier in terms of salary. 2) The teams with the most cap space (and presumably the most likely to overpay) arent really in need of WR help. Jacksonville is loaded at the position and doesnt have much incentive to keep investing assets there. Oakland could but they're in pretty good shape there. Maybe the Giants though they seem to want to keep moving forward with the Victor Cruz recovery. The 49ers and Browns are legit possibilities (the Browns especially given the division connection and the need) but also have other issues. If someone gives that dude $9m+, they can have at it. And I dont even know that he'll be a massive disappointment at that salary. Just a little too rich for our blood, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 1 minute ago, DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry said: That's a concern for sure. But a few things lead me to think we can get him for a reasonable, mid-level deal: 1) I think EVERYONE assumes he's going to be overpaid which could, in theory, push the market down a bit. If everyone thinks he'll be out of their reach, we'd likely be competing with fewer bidders and could maybe get him for a decent WR2 deal. I mean, he's nice and all but he can't possibly expect money like a Randall Cobb or Jordy Nelson, guys at the "bottom" of the WR1 tier in terms of salary. 2) The teams with the most cap space (and presumably the most likely to overpay) arent really in need of WR help. Jacksonville is loaded at the position and doesnt have much incentive to keep investing assets there. Oakland could but they're in pretty good shape there. Maybe the Giants though they seem to want to keep moving forward with the Victor Cruz recovery. The 49ers and Browns are legit possibilities (the Browns especially given the division connection and the need) but also have other issues. If someone gives that dude $9m+, they can have at it. And I dont even know that he'll be a massive disappointment at that salary. Just a little too rich for our blood, IMO. I agree with everything you just typed man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Rather take Miller in rd 2 than spend $6-9 million on a FA. He's faster, brings the QB dimension and seems eager to prove himself at the next level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 4 minutes ago, Jesus said: Rather take Miller in rd 2 than spend $6-9 million on a FA. He's faster, brings the QB dimension and seems eager to prove himself at the next level. Miller is very much on my board as well. Treadwell, Miller, Shepard, Doctson. All legitimate options in the first two (maybe three if we get lucky) rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Just now, DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry said: Miller is very much on my board as well. Treadwell, Miller, Shepard, Doctson. All legitimate options in the first two (maybe three if we get lucky) rounds. I would rather we spend the FA money on D help and bring along a young guy through the draft. With Julio at #1 Freeman at #2 TE #3 the rookie can fit in at #4 or 5. There is no rush to come in and be the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 8 minutes ago, Jesus said: I would rather we spend the FA money on D help and bring along a young guy through the draft. With Julio at #1 Freeman at #2 TE #3 the rookie can fit in at #4 or 5. There is no rush to come in and be the guy. The problem is, we don't have a legitimate TE. And you really can't rely on a RB to be your #2 target. It ends up being too easy to defend. Thats effectively what we did this year and the offense struggled mightily to move the ball through the air. Our WR play cost us multiple wins. Go back and watch every Matt Ryan interception from this year. And in doing so, watch the two plays prior. Do you know how many of those plays featured drops or bad WR plays? It's outrageous. We've got solid cap space.....sink it mostly into the D (~65-70% of it). We have 4 Top 120-ish picks. Three to the defense, one to the offense. Unless we trade back a bit in Rd1. Then the whole board opens up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Roddy was a big part of the issue with the WR. He had a hard time getting separation at time and frankly Matt just stopped looking his way. I agree we don't have a legtimate TE but Tamme is good enough. When looking at targets I was going off catches last year. If we had a decent #2 last year I doubt Freeman would have had 73 catches. That said I doubt he goes below 60 this coming year. What we need is someone who can get the YAC and go deep. Julio does that but we also rely on him to be possession guy. The drops and turnovers were killer. The turnovers because of Ryan forcing the ball when he had no other options. What we will miss is White's skills on 3rd down. I hope we can get a good 3rd down option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domed Outter Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 24 minutes ago, Jesus said: The drops and turnovers were killer. The turnovers because of Ryan forcing the ball when he had no other options. What we will miss is White's skills on 3rd down. I hope we can get a good 3rd down option. Hardy is already on the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insight Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 2 hours ago, Domed Outter said: Hardy is already on the roster. 194 yards zero TD's. You sure are assuming a lot from very little production. Roddy had 446 yards and 3 TD's as a rookie and was considered a disappointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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