TheFalconRises Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Report: Jets open to trading Wilkerson after using franchise tag Dan Wilkins Mar 1, 2016 19:18 The franchise tag ensures Muhammad Wilkerson won't have the opportunity to test free agency this year, but that doesn't exactly guarantee he'll be back in a Jets uniform. New York was open to trading the standout defensive end prior to the 2015 draft, and management will "absolutely" entertain such a deal again this offseason, reports Manish Mehta of New York Daily News. However, completing a tag-and-trade deal involving Wilkerson would be no easy task, Mehta adds. The club will almost certainly be looking for a substantial draft pick in return if they're to part with a dominant defensive lineman who's in his prime. In an age when the value of draft picks seemingly skyrockets with each passing year, it's unclear whether any team will be willing to meet the trade demands of New York and the contract demands of Wilkerson. A first-round pick in 2011, Wilkerson has spent his entire five-year career with the Jets. He took his game to another level in the final season of his rookie deal, recording 12 sacks and 64 tackles en route to his first trip to the Pro Bowl. What do yall think it would take to get him? Would you part with our first to get him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samueladams Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Would love to have the guy on the roster, but the Falcons have so many fires to put out, plus I don't think the Jets wants anyone on our roster that the Falcons will give up. Plus, the Falcons need to make good choices in the draft this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorWing Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 I would love to have him, but we have too many holes to give up another draft pick. I wish we could have that 6th rd pick back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndySG Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Not sure that we can afford the huge contract and probable 1st rounder that it would take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 NO!!!!! Let me count the ways: 1) would cost 1st Rd pick 2) would cost a HUGE contract 3) more of 3-4 DE - not an optimum scheme fit. 4) not a pure pass rusher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby.Digital Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 36 minutes ago, g-dawg said: NO!!!!! Let me count the ways: 1) would cost 1st Rd pick 2) would cost a HUGE contract 3) more of 3-4 DE - not an optimum scheme fit. 4) not a pure pass rusher. Agree with 1 and 2. But Wilkerson would fit in this scheme perfectly as the the early downs LE who we kick inside on passing downs. Also he had 12 sacks last year while providing elite run defense. He's better than a "pure pass rusher". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 1 minute ago, Bobby.Digital said: Agree with 1 and 2. But Wilkerson would fit in this scheme perfectly as the the early downs LE who we kick inside on passing downs. Also he had 12 sacks last year while providing elite run defense. He's better than a "pure pass rusher". #1 & #2 is all that really matters. The rest of what you said is. OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFalconRises Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 I'm not too football savvy but he played 4-3 dt in college too. I don't see it happening honestly but there's really not alot to talk about now so I figured it could make for a decent discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egoprime II Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 (edited) If...Wilkerson reached free agency and signed elsewhere, the Jets only get a late 3rd rounder as compensation, that's -IF- they get awarded that by the league. Here is what I would do: offer up say a 3rd and a next year 5th in trade. Or -possibly- next year's 2nd. We gave up more for Abraham. And after seeing how badly our team uses 2nd and 3rd round picks, well.... Edited March 2, 2016 by egoprime II spacing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 The "he'll cost a draft pick!" thing doesnt make any sense for me....who gives a ****? You'd be trading one draft pick for a proven high-end player. From a pure pick to player perspective, you'd do that deal in a heart beat. The money is the bigger issue and makes it a non-starter. And the money is the only part of the draft pick equation that makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 11 minutes ago, DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry said: The "he'll cost a draft pick!" thing doesnt make any sense for me....who gives a ****? You'd be trading one draft pick for a proven high-end player. From a pure pick to player perspective, you'd do that deal in a heart beat. The money is the bigger issue and makes it a non-starter. And the money is the only part of the draft pick equation that makes sense. Yep. Not only that but it guarantees us the player. There's no guarantee that Mario Williams wants to play here. If we strike out on him we should go after Wilkerson for sure. I'd offer a 2nd and tevin Coleman. Jets need a rb in a bad way. We dont have a single player on defense making more than 5 mil a year. We don't need more draft picks. We need a difference maker. Somebody to build around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconOdense Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 We can only afford one big free agent.. I prefer Mario and keep our picks.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krammmit Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Giving the tag to him gives the Jets all the leverage. He will play no matter what so now they can ask for high picks and if they don't get it it's ni sweat off their backs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 4 minutes ago, krammmit said: Giving the tag to him gives the Jets all the leverage. He will play no matter what so now they can ask for high picks and if they don't get it it's ni sweat off their backs. They would still lose him next year for nothing. They don't want to lose him for nothing hence tagging him and trying to trade him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_The Iceman_Ryan Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, g-dawg said: NO!!!!! Let me count the ways: 1) would cost 1st Rd pick 2) would cost a HUGE contract 3) more of 3-4 DE - not an optimum scheme fit. 4) not a pure pass rusher. You would rather draft Sheldon Rankins or Andrew Billings than have Muhammed Wilkerson??? I get the contract issue, but the idea of keeping a first rounder to take a more thank likely lesser player, I disagree with...I think Wilkerson would fit nicely in Quinn's scheme, and if he's not a pure pass rusher and got 12 sacks in a season. In fact his last 4 seasons in terms of sacks from a DT are 5sacks, 10 sacks, 6 sacks, 12 sacks...he would ahve lead our team in sacks every year???? AS a DT... I would make a sign and trade deal for a first round pick...if you started at say Hageman and a 2nd rounder....maybe they bite... Edited March 2, 2016 by Matt_The Iceman_Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Old Pappy Falcon* Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Why da heck not! I'm sure we have some player's we can trade after last season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Dude is JJ Watt-esque. Still...he's wanting 20 mil a year. I don't think we can afford that plus our firsts this year and next year (and it WILL take both) with so many holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 No, No, and **** No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 The same people suggesting this are the same people who made that same silly suggestion to sign Suh last year. Blowing your wad on one guy is an awful idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 4 hours ago, Bobby.Digital said: Agree with 1 and 2. But Wilkerson would fit in this scheme perfectly as the the early downs LE who we kick inside on passing downs. Also he had 12 sacks last year while providing elite run defense. He's better than a "pure pass rusher". How is it the best scheme fit to put the 315 lb guy on the outside of a 4-3? He's best served as what he is, a 3-4 DE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 15 minutes ago, hjerry said: How is it the best scheme fit to put the 315 lb guy on the outside of a 4-3? He's best served as what he is, a 3-4 DE. Dude is 10 pounds heavier than Mario Williams. Players like Wilkerson can play any position on the dl and are invaluable to a defense. He can fit on any line in the league under any scheme..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigSmackDaddy Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 18 minutes ago, hjerry said: The same people suggesting this are the same people who made that same silly suggestion to sign Suh last year. Blowing your wad on one guy is an awful idea. Beat me to it. Suh and Haynesworth pretty much stopped me from wanting to give a DT huge money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 12 minutes ago, FalconFanSince1969 said: Dude is 10 pounds heavier than Mario Williams. Players like Wilkerson can play any position on the dl and are invaluable to a defense. He can fit on any line in the league under any scheme..... 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 11 minutes ago, CraigSmackDaddy said: Beat me to it. Suh and Haynesworth pretty much stopped me from wanting to give a DT huge money. There are huge bust contracts at every single position. I guess we shouldn't give big money to anybody? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 33 minutes ago, hjerry said: How is it the best scheme fit to put the 315 lb guy on the outside of a 4-3? He's best served as what he is, a 3-4 DE. Seattle did this with Red Bryant a few years back. They used a large base end outside. Wilkerson could do that while adding the ability to get after the QB. Not saying we should even consider it (we shouldnt) but schematically, it could work really really well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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