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Lots of videos out there of various protestors at political events, so y'all can Google that stuff if you want.  Trump gets them, Bill Clinton got a couple, and almost all of the candidates have run in's with them.  

I get why people would want to protest at a political candidate.  And that should be protected.  What I don't get is the mentality that they have to disrupt the event by yelling at the candidate continuously until they're tossed from the event.  A good example of this was at a Clinton rally when Bill Clinton was speaking.  A sergeant stood up and went on a several-minute speech about Benghazi.  Clinton asked the guy if he could respond and eventually told the guy to "sit down" and "shut up" so he could answer the guy's question.  The guy just kept talking loudly while Clinton kept asking if he could respond.  I saw protestors at a Trump rally today where a large number of people stood up and started chanting trying to drown out what Trump was saying.

It's like people think their voices are the only ones that should be heard.  Like their thoughts are the only ones that matter.  If they have the opportunity to engage someone in a discussion, why stand there like a jackhole yelling out a speech or a chant?  Engage in a dialogue with the person, highlight the lies that they think are being told, and ask follow up questions to expose the problems they have.  Or if you want to yell and chant and give speeches, go outside and do that as supporters are entering or exiting the event.  I don't know why it irritates me, but I've been seeing a lot of the disrupting of events tactics lately and it seems like a bunch of a**hats acting like they are the center of the universe and that their point is so important that everybody should stop what they're doing and listen to them rant or shout silly chants.  It's like people are incapable of engaging in a public discussion and so they just go to these things to disrupt the events and be the center of attention for a few minutes.  Stupidity.

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1 hour ago, Leon Troutsky said:

Lots of videos out there of various protestors at political events, so y'all can Google that stuff if you want.  Trump gets them, Bill Clinton got a couple, and almost all of the candidates have run in's with them.  

I get why people would want to protest at a political candidate.  And that should be protected.  What I don't get is the mentality that they have to disrupt the event by yelling at the candidate continuously until they're tossed from the event.  A good example of this was at a Clinton rally when Bill Clinton was speaking.  A sergeant stood up and went on a several-minute speech about Benghazi.  Clinton asked the guy if he could respond and eventually told the guy to "sit down" and "shut up" so he could answer the guy's question.  The guy just kept talking loudly while Clinton kept asking if he could respond.  I saw protestors at a Trump rally today where a large number of people stood up and started chanting trying to drown out what Trump was saying.

It's like people think their voices are the only ones that should be heard.  Like their thoughts are the only ones that matter.  If they have the opportunity to engage someone in a discussion, why stand there like a jackhole yelling out a speech or a chant?  Engage in a dialogue with the person, highlight the lies that they think are being told, and ask follow up questions to expose the problems they have.  Or if you want to yell and chant and give speeches, go outside and do that as supporters are entering or exiting the event.  I don't know why it irritates me, but I've been seeing a lot of the disrupting of events tactics lately and it seems like a bunch of a**hats acting like they are the center of the universe and that their point is so important that everybody should stop what they're doing and listen to them rant or shout silly chants.  It's like people are incapable of engaging in a public discussion and so they just go to these things to disrupt the events and be the center of attention for a few minutes.  Stupidity.

They want to be like their grand parents of the 60's man.  When protesters actually got things done, but it is also the generation that has fugged up everything...Yes, I am part of that generation and I hope I am not part of the problem, but more a part of the solution.  

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I'm irritated that they are actually get the opportunity to talk to them like the hilary event. She said let me answer the remark and she just kept kept shouting her line over and over. I'm like you have a chance to hear what she has to say but you can't engage in dialogue because you don't have anything to contribute but what you've been told. So you Just keep yelling. To me that isn't freedom of speech that is a public disturbance. I'm all for protesting and standing for what you believe but these interruptions are just meant to disrupt public events rather than achieve anything. 

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8 minutes ago, Worzone said:

I'm irritated that they are actually get the opportunity to talk to them like the hilary event. She said let me answer the remark and she just kept kept shouting her line over and over. I'm like you have a chance to hear what she has to say but you can't engage in dialogue because you don't have anything to contribute but what you've been told. So you Just keep yelling. To me that isn't freedom of speech that is a public disturbance. I'm all for protesting and standing for what you believe but these interruptions are just meant to disrupt public events rather than achieve anything. 

Couldn't agree more.

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How dare she question the Queen? Didn't she know that she must mail her question in advance so Hillary will have time script the right answer. Don't interrupt her coffee and be serious. This is just a photo op. I've seen more genuine nods from a bobble head doll.

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7 minutes ago, Andras said:

How dare she question the Queen? Didn't she know that she must mail her question in advance so Hillary will have time script the right answer. Don't interrupt her coffee and be serious. This is just a photo op. I've seen more genuine nods from a bobble head doll.

She said she supported Abdi Wasarme to which the girl said he was not of their community, even though he's actually from Somalia. Then she accused that Hillary would do nothing to get more minorities into elected office to which she dismissed her by saying, "Why don't you run for something then?"

Just the average Sanders supporter. Wants ******** stuff like affirmative action elections and goes around trying to pick fights pretending they're smarter than they are.

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15 minutes ago, Andras said:

How dare she question the Queen? Didn't she know that she must mail her question in advance so Hillary will have time script the right answer. Don't interrupt her coffee and be serious. This is just a photo op. I've seen more genuine nods from a bobble head doll.

This isn't the type of stuff I'm talking about in this thread.  The Somali woman obviously disagreed with Clinton, but she didn't give a speech or try to talk over her.  She was rather respectful the entire time, and Clinton's answer was respectful if a bit dismissive.  In other words, this wasn't someone disrupting an event but instead engaging in a conversation with a candidate, stating her view and letting Clinton offer a response.  It didn't end amicably, but Clinton listened to her for a time and she listened to Clinton.   

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19 minutes ago, Andras said:

Always attacking someone for being a Sanders' supporter.

The tone of her statement and the statement itself is worthy of criticism. Don't let me ruin your Hillary parade.

Meh. The accusation was patently idiotic and it was dismissed in a passive-aggressive way by pointing out the actual solution.

Just now, Billy Ocean said:

Bill had the best people skills, ability to communicate & connect and portray empathy, of any politician in my lifetime, and Hillary is just terrible at all that stuff.   

I forget where but she said something to the effect that she is not a natural politician like her husband. Sort of pointing out the obvious there.

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9 minutes ago, Andras said:

No, a presidential candidate doesn't need to directly answer to voters. Don't like it? YOU go run for something then!

If only she acted that way towards her donors.

Yeah! She supported a Somali politician who is apparently not a Somali and dismissed applying affirmative action to elections! That *****!

:rolleyes:

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A BLM protestor got punched while being escorted out shouting and flipping the bird to the crowd today after several interruptions at a trump rally. I'm honestly surprised it took this long before violence broke out.  I'm losing my patience with this movement. it is at this point nothing more than a annoyance that doesn't accomplish anything but angering people by constant interuptions and disrespect of anyone and everyone. They are starting to morph in my mind to a fringe extremist group with no point but hate whitey. 

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9 minutes ago, Worzone said:

A BLM protestor got punched while being escorted out shouting and flipping the bird to the crowd today after several interruptions at a trump rally. I'm honestly surprised it took this long before violence broke out.  I'm losing my patience with this movement. it is at this point nothing more than a annoyance that doesn't accomplish anything but angering people by constant interuptions and disrespect of anyone and everyone. They are starting to morph in my mind to a fringe extremist group with no point but hate whitey. 

Until one of the BLM protestors starts attacking Trump supporters, the fringe extremist group looks more and more like Trump supporters at his rallies.  

And I absolutely oppose what the protestors are doing, but they are being peaceful in their actions.

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14 minutes ago, Worzone said:

A BLM protestor got punched while being escorted out shouting and flipping the bird to the crowd today after several interruptions at a trump rally. I'm honestly surprised it took this long before violence broke out.  I'm losing my patience with this movement. it is at this point nothing more than a annoyance that doesn't accomplish anything but angering people by constant interuptions and disrespect of anyone and everyone. They are starting to morph in my mind to a fringe extremist group with no point but hate whitey. 

When a movement is built on a lie, they have nowhere to go but down.  

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2 minutes ago, Leon Troutsky said:

Until one of the BLM protestors starts attacking Trump supporters, the fringe extremist group looks more and more like Trump supporters at his rallies.  

And I absolutely oppose what the protestors are doing, but they are being peaceful in their actions.

I dunno, I don't consider them peaceful. cursing, suggestive language, flipping people off,  halting speeches. Getting in Sanders face and taking over.  The hilary incident where they just kept shouting over her.  Being nonviolent and being peaceful are different. 

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1 minute ago, Worzone said:

I dunno, I don't consider them peaceful. cursing, suggestive language, flipping people off,  halting speeches. Getting in Sanders face and taking over.  The hilary incident where they just kept shouting over her.  Being nonviolent and being peaceful are different. 

They haven't punched anyone.  They haven't shoved anyone.  There's a clear trend at Trump rallies of how his supporters react to protestors.  I haven't heard a lot of incidents of BLM protestors at these rallies attacking the supporters.  

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I think they understand people at his rallies are angry and they are going there with the intention of getting a reaction and using that to play an angry white guy card. That in my mind is just as culpable as the one doing the punching. If I go into a train car and shout a racial slur I can expect to get hit.  If you go to a place who view you as a racist( many trump supporters view blm as racists) and start shouting and flipping people off, you can expect it will eventually happen. If I walk into a bar and said hey ---- all Yall!  I'm probably going to get hit because I'm inciting violence at that point. Does that make it right?   no everyone is in charge of their own body. But am I likely to get hit?  Ya because people will only take being disrespected so long before they act. 

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I think they understand people at his rallies are angry and they are going there with the intention of getting a reaction and using that to play an angry white guy card. That in my mind is just as culpable as the one doing the punching. If I go into a train car and shout a racial slur I can expect to get hit.  If you go to a place who view you as a racist( many trump supporters view blm as racists) and start shouting and flipping people off, you can expect it will eventually happen. If I walk into a bar and said hey ---- all Yall!  I'm probably going to get hit because I'm inciting violence at that point. Does that make it right?   no everyone is in charge of their own body. But am I likely to get hit?  Ya because people will only take being disrespected so long before they act. 

The guy flipping the bird is the only one who has done something like that.  What this this young woman do to provoke the violence and apparently racial slurs shouted at her?

Also, listen to what Trump says as she is shoved and pushed.  Yeah, he's encouraging this stuff.

 

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