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3 hours ago, Monolith2001 said:

I personally think we will go LB in FAcy and make us "a little" less likely to take a LB at 17.  Coaches may not think the way I do but I see LB as a position that benefits greatly from experience and that grabbing a capable LB in FAcy potentially will bear fruit before a rookie playing the same role.  It is for that reason, I see Lawson and Dodd heading my list with a rawer Ogbah on the list.

I'm hoping that the Falcons sign at least 2 starting quality LBers in FAcy. LB is the biggest need on the defense as of this moment (Reed and Starr are the only LBs currently under contract). Whether it's Bruce Irvin at SLB or Trevathan/Marshall/Whitehead/Zach Brown or someone else at MLB/WLB; just sign at least 2 starting quality LBers.
This way, whether Lee and/or Ragland is gone by #17 or the team passes on Lee/Ragland; the team has added 2 starting LBs in FAcy and would then have more flexibility to take another position (DE/DT/Other) at #17 and a linebacker in the 2nd or 3rd. 

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16 hours ago, g-dawg said:

I saw Lawson drag his potbelly down the 40-dash in 4.70 seconds.   I have seen Lawson just shove guys out of the way and make plays in run game and I see that as soon as Lawson hits the QB, he goes down like a no-name Mike Tyson opponent.

If "body beautiful" was all it took, then Ray Edwards would be in the Hall of Fame instead of doing underwear photography shoots. (in before gay jokes in 3,2,1...)

saw Lawson play and perform in College Football playoffs with an MCL sprain.  Dude is a warrior and highly productive.

His production speaks. I'm just not a fan of him for several reasons...shorter arms than preference, was highly productive, but in what games, and to me, Lawson just has a "non it" factor about him...

We get enamored with players and we also get drawn away from players...for me this year, its Lawson and Su'a Cravens...no thanks

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19 hours ago, Bobby.Digital said:

Based off who has a solid shot at being avaliable:

Nkmediche 

Spence

Rankins 

Billings

Floyd

Lee/ Cravens

 

If Jaylon Smith medicals check out he'd be #1. 

Jaylon Smith's medical records or the leaks coming from combine sounds like he is close to being a 3rd/4th  rounder

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6 minutes ago, Matt_The Iceman_Ryan said:

His production speaks. I'm just not a fan of him for several reasons...shorter arms than preference, was highly productive, but in what games, and to me, Lawson just has a "non it" factor about him...

We get enamored with players and we also get drawn away from players...for me this year, its Lawson and Su'a Cravens...no thanks

Lawson is not a flashy player at all - he just works.  I believe a good comparison  would be Michael Bennett.

Not really sure what you are speaking of on competition.   Lawson showed up almost every game versus top competition. 

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1 hour ago, g-dawg said:

Lawson is not a flashy player at all - he just works.  I believe a good comparison  would be Michael Bennett.

Not really sure what you are speaking of on competition.   Lawson showed up almost every game versus top competition. 

Yes, he starred down the stretch agst UNC, OU, and Bama....as a whole, the ACC is a weaker conference in comparison to other Power 5 conferences...A good bit of production from weaker teams earlier in the year, but did have a good stat line vs. ND (game conditions probably allowed for this more than usual, IM).

Also the "Dodd" factor...without looking at every single snap of his, I think it is a legitimate question as to the "tandom" effect...

 

We can agree to disagree on Shaq Lawson as a 1st round (#17 pick)....would I take him in the 2nd round? Absolutely...would I take him at #25-#30...probably, but in the Top 20?

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14 minutes ago, Matt_The Iceman_Ryan said:

Yes, he starred down the stretch agst UNC, OU, and Bama....as a whole, the ACC is a weaker conference in comparison to other Power 5 conferences...A good bit of production from weaker teams earlier in the year, but did have a good stat line vs. ND (game conditions probably allowed for this more than usual, IM).

Also the "Dodd" factor...without looking at every single snap of his, I think it is a legitimate question as to the "tandom" effect...

 

We can agree to disagree on Shaq Lawson as a 1st round (#17 pick)....would I take him in the 2nd round? Absolutely...would I take him at #25-#30...probably, but in the Top 20?

The whole "ACC is a weaker conference" is old and would only be valid if ACC teams never played SEC teams.  Specifically Clemson played EVERYONE tough and Lawson was a force in all of them.

The "tandom" effect is exactly what we want with Lawson/Dodd/Ogbah/ x DE.  We don't need a monster (there isn't one in the draft), we need a guy who is going to be disruptive, consistent and can handle the run.

If you would take a player at 25 to 30, then he is your pick at 17 unless you have a higher grade on someone else available.  The whole trade back idea really doesn't work.  While it sounds great to get another pick and still get your guy, there is another team that is trying to decide if one player is worth the price of two and I'm not sure that is the case that far back in the pick order unless there is a value pick.

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51 minutes ago, LaurentRobinsonDaGawd said:

1) Spence

2) Lee

3) Floyd

4) Lawson

Floyd is a good player but not a scheme fit for 4-3under and Seattle style defense.

Spence? He was my pick in my most recent mock but I thought at time he was poor man's  version  of Khalil Mack - with his disappointing  combine I am less confident. That, coupled  with off-field concerns pushes Spence to 2nd Rd for me.

Right now, I am down to Darron Lee and Shaq Lawson from your list if we stick a#17.

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4 minutes ago, g-dawg said:

Floyd is a good player but not a scheme fit for 4-3under and Seattle style defense.

Spence? He was my pick in my most recent mock but I thought at time he was poor man's  version  of Khalil Mack - with his disappointing  combine I am less confident. That, coupled  with off-field concerns pushes Spence to 2nd Rd for me.

Right now, I am down to Darron Lee and Shaq Lawson from your list if we stick a#17.

Differing opinions on what we think spence is as a player. I think he will be a star. Floyd can fit in any defense.

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1. Jack

2. Bosa

3. Ramsey

4. Lawson

5. Bullard

6. Deion Jones

7. Spence

8. Billings

9. Ogbah 

10. Lee

So realistically Lawson and if he's not there Bullard should be. I might even like Bullard a bit more. I could be watch him blow up the dude in front of him almost every snap in college all day

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4 hours ago, g-dawg said:

Floyd is a good player but not a scheme fit for 4-3under and Seattle style defense.

Spence? He was my pick in my most recent mock but I thought at time he was poor man's  version  of Khalil Mack - with his disappointing  combine I am less confident. That, coupled  with off-field concerns pushes Spence to 2nd Rd for me.

Right now, I am down to Darron Lee and Shaq Lawson from your list if we stick a#17.

Where are Ogbah and Nkemdiche for you in relation to the players mentioned? I really beleive that Quinn will see more "Michael Bennett" in Ogbah than Lawson...long arm span, and great power moves...just IMO

As for the Lawson stuff...if we take him, I hope I'm wrong and that he can in fact be a solid LDE agst the run and give us 8-10 sacks/year...I have Ogbah ahead of him.

 

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2 hours ago, Matt_The Iceman_Ryan said:

Where are Ogbah and Nkemdiche for you in relation to the players mentioned? I really beleive that Quinn will see more "Michael Bennett" in Ogbah than Lawson...long arm span, and great power moves...just IMO

As for the Lawson stuff...if we take him, I hope I'm wrong and that he can in fact be a solid LDE agst the run and give us 8-10 sacks/year...I have Ogbah ahead of him.

 

Ogbah is on my list but watch film (not highlights) on him and you very quickly realize this guy is about as raw as they come.  There is very little skill in his game, it's just brute force.  That may be all fine and well for the Big 12 but not so sure that translates well to NFL OTs.  Maybe he will be awesome and potentially has more upside but Lawson and Dodd are far more polished and just as effective against similar or better competition.

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