JJC28 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 move Lee to S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlGM Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Not willing to Sacrafice toughness and instincts for speed alone . Prospects like Lee and Jones both are blazers but neither are good tacklers . We need to improve our coverage of tight ends no doubt but if you lose in run defense then you really haven't gained anything. On tape Lee shy's away from contact and Jones got ran slap over be Alabama's quarterback. Speed is what we need but you've got evaluate the player as a whole in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 18 minutes ago, g-dawg said: Deion Jones looks good in drills as well. Spellchecker onmy phone is racist. It corrects me when I spell Deion and Darron. I think he will go in the 2nd round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert_Falcon Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 49 minutes ago, g-dawg said: If Quinnipiac wants to get faster in the defense: Darron Lee -1st Sua Cravens/Deion Jones -2nd or 3rd If we could do this in the first 2 rounds our D would improve drastically. id really like to see the the mocks after this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold4425 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 I like the full body of work as opposed to a workout wonder. It's Ragland for me all day long! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaRdH3ad Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 6 minutes ago, Gold4425 said: I like the full body of work as opposed to a workout wonder. It's Ragland for me all day long! Exactly lol Lee whiffs just as much as William more. Let's not turn into al Davis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted February 28, 2016 Author Share Posted February 28, 2016 8 minutes ago, Gold4425 said: I like the full body of work as opposed to a workout wonder. It's Ragland for me all day long! Well Rags may be for you but he won't be for the Falcons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin_Pernett Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Every single time DQ talks about linebackers he talks about speed. Ragland is not a scheme fit at all guys. Move on. For me it's Deion Jones. Is he the best tackler? No but he flies around and has good instincts. He's not just a workout warrior either. Go on YouTube and watch a few of his games. He's a stud. Ragland is a stud too but he's not what the Falcons want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnst Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 1 hour ago, HaRdH3ad said: Exactly lol Lee whiffs just as much as William more. Let's not turn into al Davis This ties into what I was thinking. Speed is important but it's not everything. It's like some of you looked for the lowest time and said that's our guy? Kidding me?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 3 hours ago, JJC28 said: move Lee to S. Thatssome dumb ish. I guess most safeties are 230+ lbs? Also, Lee is a very good blitzer. Would you say Bobby Wagner and Ryan Shazier should move to safety as well? After all, their measurables are real close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 3 hours ago, atlGM said: Not willing to Sacrafice toughness and instincts for speed alone . Prospects like Lee and Jones both are blazers but neither are good tacklers . We need to improve our coverage of tight ends no doubt but if you lose in run defense then you really haven't gained anything. On tape Lee shy's away from contact and Jones got ran slap over be Alabama's quarterback. Speed is what we need but you've got evaluate the player as a whole in my opinion. So Deion Jones gets run over by the Qb ONE TIME so he is undraftable in your eyes? Similar criticism for Lee? You are being a little over the top - these guys are playmakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy5prings Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, atlGM said: Not willing to Sacrafice toughness and instincts for speed alone . Prospects like Lee and Jones both are blazers but neither are good tacklers . We need to improve our coverage of tight ends no doubt but if you lose in run defense then you really haven't gained anything. On tape Lee shy's away from contact and Jones got ran slap over be Alabama's quarterback. Speed is what we need but you've got evaluate the player as a whole in my opinion. Where does Lee shy away from contact? I'd rather have a freak athlete who is coachable as compared to a less athletic "finished product" or effort guys. We have a few of the latter already in the team. Edited February 29, 2016 by Sandy5prings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 12 minutes ago, cnst said: This ties into what I was thinking. Speed is important but it's not everything. It's like some of you looked for the lowest time and said that's our guy? Kidding me?? Ridiculous stmt. Darron Lee has been a 1st rounder all along and Jones was late 2nd/early 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla1985 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) I wouldn't get too terribly hung up on 40 times either way. Paul Worrilow was clocked at a 4.52 at his pro day if I'm not mistaken. Sometimes that straight line speed doesn't equate to game speed. Edited February 29, 2016 by Godzilla1985 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 2 hours ago, Gold4425 said: I like the full body of work as opposed to a workout wonder. It's Ragland for me all day long! Huh? Lee was a first rounder well before he put on the tight shorts. Just because a guy works out well, doesnt make him a 'workout wonder'. Lee has been a playmaker for some time now, and a few have even said he was the best defender on the buckeyes. you can have Lofton (Ragland), I will take Shazier (Lee). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 3 minutes ago, Godzilla1985 said: I wouldn't get too terribly hung up on 40 times either way. Paul Worrilow was clocked at a 4.52 at his pro day I'd I'm not mistaken. Sometimes that straight line speed doesn't equate to game speed. Pro day 40times are highly suspect anyway. Hand held times never match the officials at NFL Combine for a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaRdH3ad Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 G dawg are you seriously suggesting Lee got ran over once? Lol dude don't get me wrong he flies around but he might as well be a fly with all the air he hits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 Just now, HaRdH3ad said: G dawg are you seriously suggesting Lee got ran over once? Lol dude don't get me wrong he flies around but he might as well be a fly with all the air he hits Guess you know more than Mike Mayock, huh there sport? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy5prings Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Yeah guys, DLee surely shies away from contact. He's just not a physical guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaRdH3ad Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 11 minutes ago, g-dawg said: Guess you know more than Mike Mayock, huh there sport? I'm not saying I do but I mean they call the experts for their opinion so why can't I have one? Especially when they aren't always correct... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaRdH3ad Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 I honestly don't think we have a shot at Lee after this combine though to be honest especially with smith being hurt I doubt he makes it to 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sandy5prings Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Yeah, Lee can't cover pass catchers Quote Against the Pass…Lee saw 84 passes targeted into his area, as opponents completed sixteen of those tries (19.05%) for 82 yards, an average of 5.86 yards per completion and 0.98 yards per attempt…Among the 84 targeted tosses, he rerouted/jammed his coverage assignment away from 28 passes (33.33%), as he also forced two fumbles, and caused another two receivers to drop passes…Recorded 25 third-down stops and another three on fourth-down attempts, as he also took down one receiver at the line of scrimmage for no gain and one three for losses…Among his sixteen quarterback pressures, one led to a fumble and three others caused interceptions, with the Buckeyes converting three of those turnovers into touchdown drives…Lee assisted other OSU defenders after their opponents caught seven passes that totaled 38 yards, in addition to registering three touchdown-saving tackles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 5 minutes ago, Sandy5prings said: Yeah, Lee can't cover pass catchers Darrow Leemay be moving into the top 10 and ahead of Myles Jack as the #1 overall LB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 I don't think you move a guy like Lee up solely based on his 40time - but it does validate what you see on tape - a playmaker that is fast as ****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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