FentayeJones Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Quote Quote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRUNKuno Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Fast and physical. He better be fast...... That's at least what they keep preaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJC28 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 My number 1 guy if he is there at 17. Unless we do not get a C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayorWest13 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 3 minutes ago, JJC28 said: My number 1 guy if he is there at 17. Unless we do not get a C. I'll be insanely upset if we spend the 17th pick on a C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJC28 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 If we dont get 1 fa Kelly starts day 1 here. I hope they go FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sui_Generis Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 I personally think he is too much of a thumper for Quinn. He will definitely fill the physical role , but I can't honestly say that he is known as a fast flow to the ball player. Might have to get some of the more Bama savvy fans to weigh in on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romfal Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 do we really want a 2 down linebacker in the 1st round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayorWest13 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 20 minutes ago, JJC28 said: If we dont get 1 fa Kelly starts day 1 here. I hope they go FA. Yea but we can still get a good center in the 2nd or 3rd round of the draft. 13 minutes ago, Romfal said: do we really want a 2 down linebacker in the 1st round I really hope not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOR Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Ragland is a bit of a lose lose. Either he runs well and won't be around anywhere near 17. Or he's slow and then you gotta question his speed ability. I'm more of a darron Lee guy myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungHeezy Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Danny Trevathan ran a 4.82 at the combine without the metrics of Ragland. While I understand wanting a good 40 time to get an idea of how fast someone is, it can't mean TOO much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romfal Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 5 minutes ago, YoungHeezy said: Danny Trevathan ran a 4.82 at the combine without the metrics of Ragland. While I understand wanting a good 40 time to get an idea of how fast someone is, it can't mean TOO much. just watch the tape. Ragland can't cover. I dont really care what he runs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B.N. Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Give me Floyd, Lawson, or Lee over Ragland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeytonMannings Forehead Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 3 minutes ago, YoungHeezy said: Danny Trevathan ran a 4.82 at the combine without the metrics of Ragland. While I understand wanting a good 40 time to get an idea of how fast someone is, it can't mean TOO much. Word. 4.82 and his coordinator has him out wide on running backs and tight ends in Cover-1 in the middle of potential game-clinching drive. You don't do that with just any linebacker. The agility drills will tell you so more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRUNKuno Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 24 minutes ago, YoungHeezy said: Danny Trevathan ran a 4.82 at the combine without the metrics of Ragland. While I understand wanting a good 40 time to get an idea of how fast someone is, it can't mean TOO much. He also plays in a 3-4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeytonMannings Forehead Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 8 minutes ago, Romfal said: just watch the tape. Ragland can't cover. I dont really care what he runs Hey Romfal, Where are you watching, if you don't mind me asking? I just watched his snaps vs. Clemson. Alabama plays a lot of zone with their inside linebackers underneath, and I thought he looked pretty good. On one play in particular vs. trips, he carried the #3 receiver up the seam better than I've seen a Falcon linebacker do it in a long time. I was looking for a Texas A&M one, but the one I found was from '14, and he played mostly end on passing downs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeytonMannings Forehead Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 15 minutes ago, KRUNKuno said: He also plays in a 3-4 What does that mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romfal Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 48 minutes ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said: Hey Romfal, Where are you watching, if you don't mind me asking? I just watched his snaps vs. Clemson. Alabama plays a lot of zone with their inside linebackers underneath, and I thought he looked pretty good. On one play in particular vs. trips, he carried the #3 receiver up the seam better than I've seen a Falcon linebacker do it in a long time. I was looking for a Texas A&M one, but the one I found was from '14, and he played mostly end on passing downs. exactly, even his college team pulls him on passing downs, and I know its Bama and they have a lot of talent, but thats very telling. mostly youtube, recently watched the ole miss game to check out both him, the bama linemen and Nkeditche(spelling) I think he gets burned at least twice in this one, tho he plays a lot of short zone(maybe RB spy) and he is not looking good covering man IMO even when not targeted, and playing a lot of longer situations on the line. I do see a lot of Curtis Lofton in his tape, I have some big concerns on whether he can cover RB's in the flat to the corner and also covering TE's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRUNKuno Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 1 hour ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said: What does that mean? 3-4 MLBs are usually protected by scheme so that their coverage weaknesses are arent steadily taken advantage of. Scheme can hide a lot of deficiencies in players. Not saying thay Trevathan cant cover, but in a 4-3 he'd be asked to do a lot more of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeytonMannings Forehead Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 2 hours ago, KRUNKuno said: 3-4 MLBs are usually protected by scheme so that their coverage weaknesses are arent steadily taken advantage of. Scheme can hide a lot of deficiencies in players. Not saying thay Trevathan cant cover, but in a 4-3 he'd be asked to do a lot more of it. Well, Trevathan did spend the first few years of his career in the 4-3, but fair enough... but what I saw in that AFC Championship game, on the drive for it all, Wade Phillips had enough confidence in him split out wide on Dion Lewis in Cover-1 with no help. He was essentially on an island playing corner against the Patriots best receiving back. That's all I need to see. Point taken, though. 3 hours ago, Romfal said: exactly, even his college team pulls him on passing downs, and I know its Bama and they have a lot of talent, but thats very telling. mostly youtube, recently watched the ole miss game to check out both him, the bama linemen and Nkeditche(spelling) I think he gets burned at least twice in this one, tho he plays a lot of short zone(maybe RB spy) and he is not looking good covering man IMO even when not targeted, and playing a lot of longer situations on the line. I do see a lot of Curtis Lofton in his tape, I have some big concerns on whether he can cover RB's in the flat to the corner and also covering TE's. Thanks for this. I'm going to take a look a little later when I get some time. When I searched, a little bit of everything came up, a lot of stuff from 2014, the 2015 stuff that I did see was mainly against heavy running teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDaLuvMaker Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 5 hours ago, KRUNKuno said: He also plays in a 3-4 True But his best year was as a 4-3 WLB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorWing Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 (edited) I like Ragland, he will be a starter on somebody's roster and definitely add physically to defense. The only question about him is coverage skills. I hope we sign Trevathan. His veteran presence will be a plus to their defense. Edited February 27, 2016 by RazorWing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaRdH3ad Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Anybody in this board that supported worrilow has no business knocking Ragland lol that just makes no sense at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romfal Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 2 hours ago, HaRdH3ad said: Anybody in this board that supported worrilow has no business knocking Ragland lol that just makes no sense at all lets just say, a lot of things that are wrong with Worrilow, I have doubts Ragland would fix without a proper supporting cast, not enough of a difference maker, unless we strictly need an upgrade at plug the whole, run stopper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold4425 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Hopefully DQ and TD don't think like some on this Board. Ragland is a baller! Yes he has had some not so good plays, who hasn't? He is my candidate for Defensive Rookie of the Year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlGM Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Lawson or a 246 lb Ragland is what we need at 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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