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Right now I think it's an absolute crapshoot. I think that free agency will give us a better idea as to how the team looks to approach the draft.

Lee, Ragland, Lawson, Ogbah, Bullard, Billings, Rankins, and probably someone else who I'm forgetting at the moment.

That is with the assumption that both Myles Jack and Jaylon Smith are gone by 17.

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15 minutes ago, CTann said:

Right now I think it's an absolute crapshoot. I think that free agency will give us a better idea as to how the team looks to approach the draft.

Lee, Ragland, Lawson, Ogbah, Bullard, Billings, Rankins, and probably someone else who I'm forgetting at the moment.

That is with the assumption that both Myles Jack and Jaylon Smith are gone by 17.

My ideal haul would be Lee in the 1st and Bullard in the 2nd. Every time I watch Bullard I am more impressed for his size he is explosive and powerful plus he can play inside plus he has a killer motor. I'm hoping he does not start shooting up draft boards

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8 hours ago, Sobeit said:

My ideal haul would be Lee in the 1st and Bullard in the 2nd. Every time I watch Bullard I am more impressed for his size he is explosive and powerful plus he can play inside plus he has a killer motor. I'm hoping he does not start shooting up draft boards

It may just be the Dante Fowler Jr. connection but I read somewhere that if Bullard shows well at the combine then the Jaguars will want Bullard at the top of the 2nd. I don't know if this came from the Jags or the fans who have a tendency to pair former teammates together (See: Mizzou, Clemson) but it makes sense. Jags could get Jalen Ramsey in the first and Bullard in the second and their defense is already looking much better on paper.

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15 hours ago, King Jigsaw said:

It may just be the Dante Fowler Jr. connection but I read somewhere that if Bullard shows well at the combine then the Jaguars will want Bullard at the top of the 2nd. I don't know if this came from the Jags or the fans who have a tendency to pair former teammates together (See: Mizzou, Clemson) but it makes sense. Jags could get Jalen Ramsey in the first and Bullard in the second and their defense is already looking much better on paper.

It would make great sense for us to get Lee in the 1st and make a play for Bullard in the 2nd as well because our defense would look much better as well.

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8 hours ago, Sobeit said:

It would make great sense for us to get Lee in the 1st and make a play for Bullard in the 2nd as well because our defense would look much better as well.

I think you were missing my point. I was saying that if the Jags are genuinely interested in Bullard then there would be no play for Atlanta getting him because Jacksonville picks before us.

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1 hour ago, Sobeit said:

yeah I got it. Just thinking while I think he makes it to the 2nd I agree that there is a good chance he wont make it to us, but think that he may actually be worth moving up to take. I think he is a great scheme fit here and can play DE and DT.

Bullard is about 286 which is light. We have that in Jarrett and Babs if he is back. We need a bigger NT. I would love Clark or Butler in the 2nd if we can get Lee in the 1st. We might have a better chance at Clark in the 2nd tho.

Can't see him on the nose. His gifts are best used on the move, not trying to hold POA 

Per Charles Davis on Bullard

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I see pass rusher over linebacker.  Just look at Denver which has the best pass rusher (Von Miller) and the best linebacker (Danny Trevathan) in free agency.  Miller will get $16mm/yr and Trevathan  will get half that.

Unless the talent disparity is vast, you take the more impact full position - pass rusher - in the first round.

Noah Spence

Kevin Dodd

Shaq Lawson

Emmanuel Ogbah

 

in that order

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1 hour ago, ike barn87987 said:

Bullard is about 286 which is light. We have that in Jarrett and Babs if he is back. We need a bigger NT. I would love Clark or Butler in the 2nd if we can get Lee in the 1st. We might have a better chance at Clark in the 2nd tho.

Can't see him on the nose. His gifts are best used on the move, not trying to hold POA 

Per Charles Davis on Bullard

I don't think we would be playing Bullard at DT in the base defense. He would be to us what Michael Bennett is to Seattle.

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2611283-2016-nfl-draft-jonathan-bullard-could-be-next-michael-bennett

here's an article for the comparison.

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3 hours ago, King Jigsaw said:

I think you were missing my point. I was saying that if the Jags are genuinely interested in Bullard then there would be no play for Atlanta getting him because Jacksonville picks before us.

Never count out "Trader Thomas" trading up and squandering draft picks to get "his guy"!

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1 hour ago, Colin_Pernett said:

I don't think we would be playing Bullard at DT in the base defense. He would be to us what Michael Bennett is to Seattle.

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2611283-2016-nfl-draft-jonathan-bullard-could-be-next-michael-bennett

here's an article for the comparison.

You get it. With Bullard's skill set and what Quinn did with Bennett this would be the perfect landing spot for Bullard. I could live with a 3rd down package of Clayborn Jarrett Bullard, Beasley, Lee, Whitehead, and Reed.

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3 hours ago, g-dawg said:

I see pass rusher over linebacker.  Just look at Denver which has the best pass rusher (Von Miller) and the best linebacker (Danny Trevathan) in free agency.  Miller will get $16mm/yr and Trevathan  will get half that.

Unless the talent disparity is vast, you take the more impact full position - pass rusher - in the first round.

Noah Spence

Kevin Dodd

Shaq Lawson

Emmanuel Ogbah

 

in that order

Elway said after the SB that Trevathan is a priority. I'm not that high on him especially at 8 mil a year. What would be perfect would be get Irvin in FA draft Lee in the 1st and Bullard in the 2nd. Move Reed inside.

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