Positive Thinker Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 I don't care if he likes the sound of a Clemson reunion. I want him to like the sound of bringing a championship to Atlanta while disfiguring opposing QBs in the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bawse Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 5 hours ago, hjerry said: Dual threat =/= Mobile Also, Wilson hardly did **** in that SB. Wilson succeeds b/c he is a great pocket passer, that can evade when necessary. Cam got better when he became a better pocket passer. Mobility will always help, but pocket passing will always be the key to a great NFL QB. Aaron Rodgers types not RGIII types Huh??? What exactly are you trying to say? Russell Wilson is a dual threat QB. He can pass in the pocket and scramble, thus making him a dual threat. Over 200 in the air with 2 TD passes and yards on the ground in that SB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Positive Thinker Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 5 hours ago, hjerry said: Dual threat =/= Mobile Also, Wilson hardly did **** in that SB. Wilson succeeds b/c he is a great pocket passer, that can evade when necessary. Cam got better when he became a better pocket passer. Mobility will always help, but pocket passing will always be the key to a great NFL QB. Aaron Rodgers types not RGIII types You are on crack! It rots your brain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Positive Thinker Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 8 minutes ago, Bawse said: Huh??? What exactly are you trying to say? Russell Wilson is a dual threat QB. He can pass in the pocket and scramble, thus making him a dual threat. Over 200 in the air with 2 TD passes and yards on the ground in that SB. I'm with you on this. I'll back you buddy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 7 hours ago, Bawse said: Uhhh? Russell Wilson?? The last four Super Bowls have featured dual threat QBs. Times change. Peyton Manning threw for an astounding 140 yards in this years bowl, if he didn't have an amazing D, the Broncos get shredded by Scam. Fact..... Argh lol 1 guy out of how many SB's played in the last decade hahahaha. I''ve heard this stuff over and over and until that % improves I think the whole dual threat QB discussion is'nt worth talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 12 hours ago, ICD said: Don't forget about Goodman(I know,hard not to) also a Clemson Alumn. Goodman got set back a full season by Smitty telling him to blow up 30 lbs, it was a failed mistake. Last season, Goodman got back down to his college playing weight per Quinn and he started flashing a little bit toward the last part of the season. There were serval comments in game threads from posters about how many times Goodman was breaking into the backfield and disrupting plays. I actually think Goodman may be an important rotation player on the DL next season and capable of making some plays. He's stil, young too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Positive Thinker Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 10 hours ago, kiwifalcon said: Argh lol 1 guy out of how many SB's played in the last decade hahahaha. I''ve heard this stuff over and over and until that % improves I think the whole dual threat QB discussion is'nt worth talking about. Don't forget to take into account the percentage of dual threat QBs in the entire league is low as well. It is still a new concept but growing as offensive geniuses figure out how to use them while keeping them healthy. The biggest thing to consider is that no matter how good your quarterback is, he can be no better than the team around him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bawse Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 2 hours ago, ATL58FAN said: Don't forget to take into account the percentage of dual threat QBs in the entire league is low as well. It is still a new concept but growing as offensive geniuses figure out how to use them while keeping them healthy. The biggest thing to consider is that no matter how good your quarterback is, he can be no better than the team around him. This guy knows!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashbrown3 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 I prefer to look at it like this when discussing dual threat QB's. If they excel at reading D's and can kill with their arm first, then you have gold in a dual threat QB. Kiling a defense like a surgeon. If they excel as a runner first, as a passer second, then you end up with mediocrity more often than not. In order to be a successful QB in this league you must have the intellect to read first then use your legs to extend plays and pick up first downs. #1. Brains to read defenses #2 Arm (strength/accuracy/touch) to make all the throws. It's like the military. if you own the air, you will dominate. Strike fear in the opponent. #3 Legs (the total package & a legitimate nightmare to defend against). Over time, it can break the will of a defense. Aaron Rogers and Russell Wilson are two pretty good examples. Cam is becoming much more proficient and showed the league he is not going away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 4 hours ago, ATL58FAN said: Don't forget to take into account the percentage of dual threat QBs in the entire league is low as well. It is still a new concept but growing as offensive geniuses figure out how to use them while keeping them healthy. The biggest thing to consider is that no matter how good your quarterback is, he can be no better than the team around him. Yep well it is what it is I can't control that I can only present facts that are in front of me.Until dual QB's prove to me that they are the answer over a Brady P.Manning and co I'll stick with the guy that gets it done inside the pocket thanks. PS I still can't believe you named Russell Wilson as that dual threat guy when a certain Aaron Rodgers is the first guy off that tree I would have named but that's just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bawse Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Probably because Rodgers isn't a true dual threat QB. Rodgers doesn't have run plays designed for him to grab yards... he just has balls and get some when he needs to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 6 minutes ago, Bawse said: Probably because Rodgers isn't a true dual threat QB. Rodgers doesn't have run plays designed for him to grab yards... he just has balls and get some when he needs to. That's how good mobile QBs should be. If a QB's main weapon is his legs, then that's a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bawse Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Just now, hjerry said: That's how good mobile QBs should be. If a QB's main weapon is his legs, then that's a problem. I agree. Rodgers is a great mobile QB and he's able to make great passes in stride, he just isn't the definition of a dual threat QB in my eyes. Never seen Rodgers burn defenders on runs down field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconinPA Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 On 2/22/2016 at 0:30 PM, Arkridge said: Grabbing Clemson emissaries to pull in Deshaun Watson as Matty's future replacement . This is a great dream. I like it! But Watson is probably going to be the number #1 pick when he comes out, so we would have to hit rock bottom to get him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkridge Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 1 hour ago, FalconinPA said: This is a great dream. I like it! But Watson is probably is going to be the number #1 pick when he comes out, so we would have to hit rock bottom to get him Pipe dream indeed. I'm sure Watson would love to be a Falcon just as much as the fans would love to have him here, but I'd rather not have the #1 pick in the draft next year. Lol. I'm hoping we're trending upward not downward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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