Knight of God Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 54 minutes ago, I Even Bleed Red said: What do you guys think about switching Beasely to OLB then going after bigger DEs? This will also allow him to use his quickness more when rushing the passer. Using him like Irvin then? No reason not to, but then we are hurting at both RE and LE. Then we still need WLB and MLB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Even Bleed Red Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Knight of God said: Using him like Irvin then? No reason not to, but then we are hurting at both RE and LE. Then we still need WLB and MLB. Good point. I just thought he'd be able to play more to his strength at OLB. Say if we don't move him, we still would need to upgrade the OLB position then, which puts us as having the same number of holes to fill. Plus, moving him allows us to target bigger DEs to fill a huge hole and built a much more imposing front 7. Besleay wont be moved prolly. But I think it might a mistake. Just my 2 cents. Edited February 21, 2016 by I Even Bleed Red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 1 hour ago, I Even Bleed Red said: Good point. I just thought he'd be able to play more to his strength at OLB. Say if we don't move him, we still would need to upgrade the OLB position then, which puts us as having the same number of holes to fill. Plus, moving him allows us to target bigger DEs to fill a huge hole and built a much more imposing front 7. Besleay wont be moved prolly. But I think it might a mistake. Just my 2 cents. I guess I worry more about the DE position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlfanstckndenver Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 9 minutes ago, Knight of God said: I guess I worry more about the DE position. Pass rush should be our first priority. Not to say there's not other issues. It's just that fixing that pass rush can help so many other departments. Including the linebacker play along with practically every other area on defense. Which will aid even the offense. Another reason for my interest in fixing the pass rush NOW is because this off season seems ripe with both free agent and draft options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Even Bleed Red Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Knight of God said: I guess I worry more about the DE position. Trust me, fam. I'm with you on that. What I'm saying is we have a chance to target legit, big DEs. Think about Beasely at OLB behind, say, Mario Williams, as one example. (I'm NOT saying we target Williams in particular.) Doesn't Beasely seem much more comfortable to you in that spot? Honest question?? Then think about, say, Irvin at OLB for example on the other end behind our #1 draft pick, who's a big, legit DE. With Babs and Hage in the middle we have penetrators at all levels now. I know what I'm saying is not gonna happen. It's farfetched. I concede it'll be expensive. But we will have an imposing front 7, especially in the pass game, starting right now! Guys with speed who can cover if they need to but most importantly fly around and hit guys, including the QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Mario Williams and Jaye Howard are the two guysi like. and Quinn coached Howard, so I hope he tries to get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B.N. Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Bruce Irvin and Danny Trevathan then draft Jaylon Smith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBXFalcon Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I think Wisniewski and Irvin REALISTICALLY should be the targets. I would love Trevathan and Vernon but I feel like someone will overpay both of them. Center in my opinion should be #1 priority and would much rather go with a vet as our starter. I think Irvin wants to be here badly and will take slightly less money to come home and re-unite with Quinn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigSmackDaddy Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 21 hours ago, Draftnut57 said: FYI,,, We need the Center and Guard 100 times more than anything else.. As I've stated many times. IT's better to get OL with experience and Draft the D# ,and WR in the draft., Agreed but I think we could pickup one OL and 1 on defense. IMO starting center is our biggest need. I'd go Wisniewski and Mario Williams, draft Jaylon Smith. If we still have money then add a decent guard, if not draft one in the 2nd or 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted February 22, 2016 Author Share Posted February 22, 2016 On 2/21/2016 at 9:46 PM, Draftnut57 said: FYI,,, We need the Center and Guard 100 times more than anything else.. As I've stated many times. IT's better to get OL with experience and Draft the D# ,and WR in the draft., You mean like Jon Asamoah and Andy Levitre? sorry, couldn't resist. Of course we need offensive line - we basically have Matthews and Schraeder and nothing in the interior. We are going to have to get TWO offensive linemen in free agency and then we still need to draft one to boot in the mid-rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Trevathan is so going to get overpaid. Who says we can't find a 6th round LB who can put up good numbers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted February 22, 2016 Author Share Posted February 22, 2016 I cannot pay Bruce Irvin $10mm/yr to get us 5.5-6.5 sacks........I don't want to bring up TD anymore but his poor 8 year record will continue to affect us if we go out and overpay for a mediocre passrusher. Good grief, I look at this team that does not have a RG, C, LG, #2WR, a threat at TE, LDE, WLB, MLB, SLB, SS, DT depth and think - "my God, what have you been doing?" Oh well, I digress. All of these free agents are about to get paid with so many NFL teams flush w/ cash under the cap - is it Raiders and Jags that are like $60-$70mm under the cap? They have to spend just to come in compliance w/ NFL cap rules. I want Falcons to get 2-3 impact NFL starters but very difficult to buy your way in w/ free agents - yes, the Broncos benefitted (Peyton Manning, DeMarcus Ware, Aquib Talib, TJ Ward) from free agency but that is the exception to the rule. I am tired of chasing has-beens and past production of players that are past their prime. I also don't want to make the assumption that you can get these "role players" from great teams that posted just decent stats with the great supporting cast - and think that same player is going to come to Falcons on a less talented team and do more - usually they do less w/ less talent around them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconOdense Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Mario Williams.... My top free agent... We need pass rush. I fear that Danny Trevathan is a product of the great D line of the Broncos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apl2g Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I would like to see Trevathan or Irvin.. Along with Osemele. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDaveG Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Operating under the "more than one right answer" theory, I'm going to suggest Williams and Wisniewski. We need a C worse, but Williams at strong side DE could be a game changer for this defense, at the right price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takeitdown Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Take the DE and the interior OL. Those are the positions we absolutely can't do without. If we get some pass rush from the left side, and we're able to hold up on the interior OL, this is a playoff team. If we can't, we're not. So you start there. (Williams and either Osemele or Wisniewski) Then you're free to take mid level FAs and free in the draft to take best impact players at several positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryka Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 The Superbowl winning FAs almost always get overpaid. I think we should take a run at Malik(Medium Priority) and Trevathan(High Priority) but they will be big fish. I love the idea of Bruce Irvin...the issue is that he is a SLB....we are paying Brooks for the same role. Brooks is not a WLB or a MLB with range or cover skills. Bruce would be an upgrade in talent over Brooks but where does Brook go for 6 mill a year? To the bench? I have no problem adding a veteran pass rusher this year to team with Beasley and drafting a guy in the 2nd or 3rd. C position can improve the entire line. Wisnieski(spl?) is a prime target and will come in for less than A. Mack. Id really like to see us pick up a couple LBs in FA so we can address the pass rush and S position in the draft. Lawson at DE and K. Neal at SS would be big additions and probable starters sometime this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLFalcon36 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 If Trevathan hits the market I'll practically be begging, almost picketing Flowery Branch to bring him home. I love D.T. as a player and he'd be the perfect young piece entering his prime to build our defense around. If we ended up snagging him, I'd be as excited for him as I was when we traded for Abraham. He'd have that kind of profound impact on our defense. We haven't had a linebacker that could cover since I don't even know, DeMorrio Williams? With such a strong defensive draft we could have a very impressive number of options for a front 7. Mind you the bracketed ones we'd only get one of them, but many options. DE - Beasley / Goodman DT - Hageman / Mbu DT - Jackson / [Billings] DE - Clayborn (re-signed) / [S. Lawson] / [ N. Spence] / [K. Dodd] SLB - Reed / Stupar MLB - Trevathan / Worrilow WLB - [D. Lee] / [J. Smith] / Stupar Then we have secondary: CB - Trufant / Collins FS - Allen / Therezie SS - [G. Illoka] / [K. Joseph] / [J. Cash] CB - Alford / FA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metatron360 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 we had no pass rush last year. Its a wonder our LB looked mediocre. With Mario on the lil every position will look better. We need a pass rush period. Without that we can draft and sign the best LB in the league but our defense will still be abysmal. please we have the money get Mario and draft an end. Shore up center and everything else will not look broken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 4 hours ago, g-dawg said: I cannot pay Bruce Irvin $10mm/yr to get us 5.5-6.5 sacks........I don't want to bring up TD anymore but his poor 8 year record will continue to affect us if we go out and overpay for a mediocre passrusher. Good grief, I look at this team that does not have a RG, C, LG, #2WR, a threat at TE, LDE, WLB, MLB, SLB, SS, DT depth and think - "my God, what have you been doing?" Oh well, I digress. All of these free agents are about to get paid with so many NFL teams flush w/ cash under the cap - is it Raiders and Jags that are like $60-$70mm under the cap? They have to spend just to come in compliance w/ NFL cap rules. I want Falcons to get 2-3 impact NFL starters but very difficult to buy your way in w/ free agents - yes, the Broncos benefitted (Peyton Manning, DeMarcus Ware, Aquib Talib, TJ Ward) from free agency but that is the exception to the rule. I am tired of chasing has-beens and past production of players that are past their prime. I also don't want to make the assumption that you can get these "role players" from great teams that posted just decent stats with the great supporting cast - and think that same player is going to come to Falcons on a less talented team and do more - usually they do less w/ less talent around them. Dawg but what do we do that's what FA is a big over pay fest. You need to red the article that Joe Banner wrote on NFL.com this overpaying thing is going to be even more evident with rising caps.I mean 155 mill this year and we are in that 25 mill area right now and will possibly end up with closer to 30-35 with cuts. Dependent on what position and who's outraged there's just know way around overpaying especially when you could be in competition with the suitors you mention. As of right now biggest needs C,DE,G and LBer,2 of those mentioned are pay me positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentayeJones Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 5 hours ago, Jesus said: Trevathan is so going to get overpaid. Who says we can't find a 6th round LB who can put up good numbers? That's gonna be kinda hard with no sixth round pick... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chitown2ATL_Falcon Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I would be happy if we could get Mario Williams(DE), Kelechi Osemele(G), Bruce Irvin(LB), and Stefan Winiewski. That provide major upgrades on both sides of the ball as well as some veteran leadership! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndySG Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Looks as if Mack is looking for the highest center contract of all time. Pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamFRESCO1 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 On 2/21/2016 at 8:32 PM, BigDog90 said: I don't think ATL needs to go after a "big" FA. They just need to build through the draft. Get a MLB like Ragland, he got potential to be what Brookling was for ATL. It's been a while since ATL had an enforcer in the middle. DL is pretty deep this draft, continue to build the DL through the draft. Beasley/Hageman/Jackson/rookie would be solid and cheaper. 3 & 16...... Only thing I remember about Brookings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xfactor Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Super Mario draft Jaylon Smith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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