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I'm starting to get it. The left heads here are upset. The people in the left lane hate what's happened to their party. The democrats on board here have been disillusioned so badly by the last 7 years of Obama, and now by the prospects laid bare that their only hope is Hillary or Bernie.

If I were a democrat I'd hate this as well. I'd also hate snake and dirty hairy for pointing these things out. I'd hate WFW and all the other conservatives who have pointed this out over the years. So now it is clear. Ok, it makes sense. You guys feel trapped. Trapped by your own creations. Political correctness, progressive policy's, attacks on achievement.

When President Trump takes the baton, I wonder if many of you will rejoice? I will not but the prospect of Hillary and Bill back in the white house is too much for even the staunchest of democrats, so she will fail big.

I will repeat what I said before. Trumps rise is a direct rejection of Obama and the inside the beltway establishment types. That include John and Mitch, Pelosi and Harry. Trumps historical race is due to the spiraling out of control Federal Government.

The people of this country deserve better than Donald, but alas, we will not get it. I can only hope that Donald surprises me and is the leader he claims to be. It's about time we had strength of character back in the White House. 

We shall see.

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22 minutes ago, dirtyhairy said:

The lefts answer to all issues is, "its for the children". It's as over used excuse as using racism. As though you'd even understand Pragers article. The title is tilted to :The Lefts Denial". I'd say that's spot on. 

And once again, troutsky goes to personal insults. 

Don't like the personal insults?  Then stop engaging in personal insults against me and others.

If you want to continue insulting me, then man up yourself, cream puff.

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19 minutes ago, dirtyhairy said:

By the way Troll, Bidens son didn't die in the middle of the presidential campaign. It hadn't even started. Biden didn't do a darn thing involving the presidential race because of his son. That's as big a fallacy as Hillary wasn't annointed. You remind me of a line by Jack, "You can't handle the truth". 

He died at the end of May and the funeral was in June.  Candidates make decisions about entering the race over the summer.  Joe Biden was grieving for his son during that period of time.  

But you want to mock Biden's decision based on his son's death and make it some kind of attack on "the left".  Because you lack any semblance of decency or compassion as a human being.  You are truly a disgusting person.

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2 minutes ago, Leon Troutsky said:

Don't like the personal insults?  Then stop engaging in personal insults against me and others.

If you want to continue insulting me, then man up yourself, cream puff.

I know, I've already given you the internet tough guy title. You are so bad, I'd best back off. "That'll be the day"

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1 minute ago, Leon Troutsky said:

He died at the end of May and the funeral was in June.  Candidates make decisions about entering the race over the summer.  Joe Biden was grieving for his son during that period of time.  

But you want to mock Biden's decision based on his son's death and make it some kind of attack on "the left".  Because you lack any semblance of decency or compassion as a human being.  You are truly a disgusting person.

Yea, what ever you say Bob.

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15 minutes ago, dirtyhairy said:

By the way Troll, Bidens son didn't die in the middle of the presidential campaign. It hadn't even started. Biden didn't do a darn thing involving the presidential race because of his son. That's as big a fallacy as Hillary wasn't annointed. You remind me of a line by Jack, "You can't handle the truth". 

I remember when my father was dying of Esophageal Cancer, between driving back and forth to St. Louis to visit him, spending time with my family here, and actually doing my job, what I really had the time and emotional energy to do was form exploratory committees, engage in fund raising, and develop the basic infrastructure necessary for a Presidential Campaign.  Of course, after the Death and funeral, during those days, weeks and months of grief, that's when the motivation REALLY kicked in to be a Presidential Candidate.

So you are completely correct!  I am CERTAIN Vice President Biden is merely using the tragic death of his son as a RUSE for the DNC's decision to appoint Hillary as the next President.

We are graced to have a human being of your grace, compassion and wisdom contributing to this message board.

I think I will go to Synagogue tonight and say a special prayer of gratitude for your presence. 

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Just now, dirtyhairy said:

I know, I've already given you the internet tough guy title. You are so bad, I'd best back off. "That'll be the day"

Just saying don't be a crybaby and whine about personal attacks when virtually every post you make attacks someone.  You mocked the death of a man's son because he belongs to the other party.  You don't get to whine about attacks after doing something that despicable.

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3 minutes ago, Leon Troutsky said:

He died at the end of May and the funeral was in June.  Candidates make decisions about entering the race over the summer.  Joe Biden was grieving for his son during that period of time.  

But you want to mock Biden's decision based on his son's death and make it some kind of attack on "the left".  Because you lack any semblance of decency or compassion as a human being.  You are truly a disgusting person.

Hillary announced mid April. Trump announced in June. What ever you want to believe Bob.

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Just now, dirtyhairy said:

Hillary announced mid April. Trump announced in June. What ever you want to believe Bob.

 

2 minutes ago, holymoses said:

I remember when my father was dying of Esophageal Cancer, between driving back and forth to St. Louis to visit him, spending time with my family here, and actually doing my job, what I really had the time and emotional energy to do was form exploratory committees, engage in fund raising, and develop the basic infrastructure necessary for a Presidential Campaign.  Of course, after the Death and funeral, during those days, weeks and months of grief, that's when the motivation REALLY kicked in to be a Presidential Candidate.

So you are completely correct!  I am CERTAIN Vice President Biden is merely using the tragic death of his son as a RUSE for the DNC's decision to appoint Hillary as the next President.

We are graced to have a human being of your grace, compassion and wisdom contributing to this message board.

I think I will go to Synagogue tonight and say a special prayer of gratitude for your presence. 

I think HM's response answers your disgusting mockery of Beau Biden's death better than anything.

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42 minutes ago, Leon Troutsky said:

 

I think HM's response answers your disgusting mockery of Beau Biden's death better than anything.

Yea, you guys like each others posts so much I'm starting to wonder. Your attempt to push this emotional response is as bogus as most of your other posts. For those on this board trying to use the excuse that Joe couldn't make the decision to run because of his son's death is the same BS you guys use to escape the true nature of your party. Biden didn't run because the establishment held him back. Biden is a buffoon but not any bigger then Hillary or the Socialist Bernie. 

Hillary was given the nomination probably because Bill had baggage on many in the democrat establishment. The Clintons with their private email server, their deep pockets and bimbo eruption teams have more dirty laundry on democrats then Hoover during his heyday.

Beau Biden death was not the reason plugs decided not to run.

 

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22 minutes ago, dirtyhairy said:

Yea, you guys like each others posts so much I'm starting to wonder. Your attempt to push this emotional response is as bogus as most of your other posts. For those on this board trying to use the excuse that Joe couldn't make the decision to run because of his son's death is the same BS you guys use to escape the true nature of your party. Biden didn't run because the establishment held him back. Biden is a buffoon but not any bigger then Hillary or the Socialist Bernie. 

Hillary was given the nomination probably because Bill had baggage on many in the democrat establishment. The Clintons with their private email server, their deep pockets and bimbo eruption teams have more dirty laundry on democrats then Hoover during his heyday.

Beau Biden death was not the reason plugs decided not to run.

 

I realize that I shouldn't be surprised at how despicable of a person you are, but you seem to find a way on a regular basis to prove that you're even more disgusting than I thought.

Biden cited his son's death when he announced that he wasn't going to run.  Are you now claiming he was lying and using his son's cancer as political cover?

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30 minutes ago, dirtyhairy said:

Yea, you guys like each others posts so much I'm starting to wonder. Your attempt to push this emotional response is as bogus as most of your other posts. For those on this board trying to use the excuse that Joe couldn't make the decision to run because of his son's death is the same BS you guys use to escape the true nature of your party. Biden didn't run because the establishment held him back. Biden is a buffoon but not any bigger then Hillary or the Socialist Bernie. 

Hillary was given the nomination probably because Bill had baggage on many in the democrat establishment. The Clintons with their private email server, their deep pockets and bimbo eruption teams have more dirty laundry on democrats then Hoover during his heyday.

Beau Biden death was not the reason plugs decided not to run.

 

Thank you for your compassion regarding my attempt to trigger empathy with what Mr. Biden might have been experiencing by comparing it, albeit sarcastically, with the death of my father.

Of course, everyone knows that it is easier to bury your child than your father so that reinforces your point.

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37 minutes ago, dirtyhairy said:

Yea, you guys like each others posts so much I'm starting to wonder. Your attempt to push this emotional response is as bogus as most of your other posts. For those on this board trying to use the excuse that Joe couldn't make the decision to run because of his son's death is the same BS you guys use to escape the true nature of your party. Biden didn't run because the establishment held him back. Biden is a buffoon but not any bigger then Hillary or the Socialist Bernie. 

Hillary was given the nomination probably because Bill had baggage on many in the democrat establishment. The Clintons with their private email server, their deep pockets and bimbo eruption teams have more dirty laundry on democrats then Hoover during his heyday.

Beau Biden death was not the reason plugs decided not to run.

 

I lost my father not too long before HM lost his.  This post is incredibly tasteless and offensive. 

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Moses is on ignore so I don't read his posts. We have all lost loved ones. Some of us more than others. It's personal so it's none of my business. But, for those trying to use the death of Beau as the decision he didn't run, are either naive or intellectually dishonest. For those using this to further their hate for me, and disregard the obvious, then that will be your own personal low. Good luck with that.

 

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5 hours ago, dirtyhairy said:

Start with the 70,000 pages of the US tax code and work your way down. 

 

5 hours ago, dirtyhairy said:

Start with the 70,000 pages of the US tax code and work your way down. 

The tax code is surely something that needs to get looked at.but not really for the reasons you probably think...It is full of holes ...that companies often exploit...there are companies that pay zero in federal tax through loopholes and tax credits...... So how can you say a tax code....as convoluted as it is ....burdons a company when  they end up paying zero taxes???

 

 

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1 hour ago, holymoses said:

I remember when my father was dying of Esophageal Cancer, between driving back and forth to St. Louis to visit him, spending time with my family here, and actually doing my job, what I really had the time and emotional energy to do was form exploratory committees, engage in fund raising, and develop the basic infrastructure necessary for a Presidential Campaign.  Of course, after the Death and funeral, during those days, weeks and months of grief, that's when the motivation REALLY kicked in to be a Presidential Candidate.

So you are completely correct!  I am CERTAIN Vice President Biden is merely using the tragic death of his son as a RUSE for the DNC's decision to appoint Hillary as the next President.

We are graced to have a human being of your grace, compassion and wisdom contributing to this message board.

I think I will go to Synagogue tonight and say a special prayer of gratitude for your presence. 

 

18 minutes ago, dirtyhairy said:

Moses is on ignore so I don't read his posts. We have all lost loved ones. Some of us more than others. It's personal so it's none of my business. But, for those trying to use the death of Beau as the decision he didn't run, are either naive or intellectually dishonest. For those using this to further their hate for me, and disregard the obvious, then that will be your own personal low. Good luck with that.

 

Hopefully with the new forum software you can read his post now that I've quoted it. 

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11 minutes ago, falconsd56 said:

 

The tax code is surely something that needs to get looked at.but not really for the reasons you probably think...It is full of holes ...that companies often exploit...there are companies that pay zero in federal tax through loopholes and tax credits...... So how can you say a tax code....as convoluted as it is ....burdons a company when  they end up paying zero taxes???

 

 

I agree. Government also picks winners and loosers. How can GE pay no tax's on billions in earnings? 

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2 minutes ago, mdrake34 said:

 

Hopefully with the new forum software you can read his post now that I've quoted it. 

I've spoken to the personal loss's. We've all had them. Leave it out of the discussion unless it's singularly in a discussion. Again, I don't respond to moses any longer. 

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2 minutes ago, falconsd56 said:

Also this thread has taken a moral nose dive.

Honestly, I am disturbed and troubled by Snake's posts . . . OK, that happens a lot.  But there is something particularly troubling about where he has gone here that saddens me.  How is somebody so blinded by political ideology that they can't recognize the limitations of grief. . . even when people he has met, claimed to be friends with, point out the real challenges that grief causes. 

How dark is that place?  What is he protecting?  Who has damaged him to the extent that he totally lacks the capacity for empathy for a man he has never met and cannot possibly judge, yet disparages the very core of the man because of his political party?  To be clear, Snake, Dirty Harry, Deisel . . . is accusing Joe Biden of using the death of his son as a ruse.   To do something like that, Biden would have to be a despicable and damaged human being.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, holymoses said:

Honestly, I am disturbed and troubled by Snake's posts . . . OK, that happens a lot.  But there is something particularly troubling about where he has gone here that saddens me.  How is somebody so blinded by political ideology that they can't recognize the limitations of grief. . . even when people he has met, claimed to be friends with, point out the real challenges that grief causes. 

How dark is that place?  What is he protecting?  Who has damaged him to the extent that he totally lacks the capacity for empathy for a man he has never met and cannot possibly judge, yet disparages the very core of the man because of his political party?  To be clear, Snake, Dirty Harry, Deisel . . . is accusing Joe Biden of using the death of his son as a ruse.   To do something like that, Biden would have to be a despicable and damaged human being.

 

 

It saddens me to think he's that callous about the loss of loved ones because it happens to be someone he's against politically. 

Last week, I got to work and when I pulled up facebook on my computer, it popped up with a notification that it would have been dad's 65th birthday.  It's been five years since he passed, but tears immediately welled up before I could think.  My paralegal walked in to ask me something and I couldn't even turn around to face her. 

I still think about the incident I posted about from a year or so ago where I was taking my daughter to school and saw a man I have met before that is a doppelganger of dad, but in that split second I thought it was dad because he was in a big truck.  I ******* lost it that day. 

If Biden says he didn't run because of Beau's illness and death, I will take him at his word. 

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