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Did Crumpler and Gonzalez raise my TE expectations too high?


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Looking back on past 3 years...  Can think of many times a 5-10 yard pass catching TE could have been the difference in a game.

 

Roddy still has some tread on the tires...  But I'm talking about an EXTRA option that defenses must respect...

 

A man can dream can't he?  Current TE's aren't the answer...  Draft needs are heavy in other areas...  Free agent TE's are a crap shoot (Jared Cook might be available)...

 

Who or where is this TE I seek?

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Roddy was always the expert at grabbing 3rd down 1sts and was very good down the stretch this year doing it. Tony was excellent at it. The Tony G we got was great at that.  Earlier in his career he could stretch the field like Julio and make amazing catches. He got the 10 yard and fall down model.  We finished this year 2nd in 3rd down percentage, which is incredible. If a TE could step up in the redzone that would be great.

Tamme was pretty good this year. He was third on the team with 81 targets. Keep in mind that Julio had 203 targets and Freeman had 91. That drop off from Julio was huge. Even with Tony G out there, it is doubtful his targets would have been much more. If there is a TE out there that can be a big upgrade over Tamme let's go get him, but that guy isn't out there this offseason. We would be better off tightening the defense and oline. Tamme can be a stopgap for another season. This past year was the 2nd best season of his career.

When looking at our offense what we need is someone who can stretch the field. Roddy doesn't have that anymore. Hardy has quickness but not that speed. Julio can do that but is expected to do everything else as well. A speed guy who can make big plays downfield would be huge. That would leave Tamme open more over the middle for those 10 yard gains.

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The answer is YEP. 

There are only a handful of TEs in the league who contribute the way those two did and every year we have a bunch of fans wanting to throw a 1st round pick at a TE in the hopes they will be the next __________. In the past 3 years people have clamored over that "special" TE and we didn't take him awwwww and out of that group not one of them is TG or AC. 

We can't stop looking for Bigfoot but I think we need to look under some bushes instead of on stage. Bigfoot don't get on no stage that's a dude in a beaver costume. 

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There are very few teams who have won the Super Bowl lately without a legitimate TE receiving threat.

You don't have to have an All Pro, but you really need to control the middle of the field, and a mismatch TE does that.  It's not like there are only one or two in the league.  Most teams have a matchup problem TE.  It's closer to a necessity in the modern game than people give it credit for.


Sure, you can accomplish the same thing with 3 really good receivers on the field and a pass catching back...but it's harder to have 3 really good receivers than to have a legitimate TE.

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That's a yes and no answer. If it's a priority to go out and get a TE of that magnitude you can find them. In particular with a QB like Ryan who would use whoever you brought in but really if you just deal in late draft picks and cheap free agents you aren't going to find one like them there. Most of the time. Just look at the guy a lot of mocks had us drafting to replace Tony g in Eifert or however you spell it.

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I always liked Chase Coffman, and I think he was on the Denver team this year that won the SB.  Don't know if he would be available, or not,

but, between him and Jacob Tamme (along with Toilolo) we'd have a fairly decent TE group, until we could do better next year. 

Right now, there's just too many other holes to fill to even think about drafting a TE, or getting one through FA. ---- i.e., C, G, a legitimate #2 receiver, S, LB and a DE that can actually sack a QB!!!  :bang: 


 

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5 hours ago, ThrowItToSvitek said:

Don't know how realistic this is, but it almost certainly would fix our massive red zone problems in an awesome way!

I'm not sure either, it may be a pipe dream but if you choose to believe the whispers of them trading him I think we would be foolish not to offer even like a 2nd rounder for him. We'll see! This will be a fun offseason for the Falcons free agency and draft wise 

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3 hours ago, Old Pappy falcon said:

Yes. I also believe we put too much higher expectation's on Ryan afterwards. I can say with no doubt in my mind..........he need's a better Tight end to bring his level of play up.

This also, can make this whole offense run a lot smoother. Only time will tell if we spend the money to do it.

We have to fix the O-line. We have no linebackers. An underperforming pass rush. At a minimum I think Tamme could hold down the fort, but it'd be nice to go get that guy out of San Diego.

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Ladarius Green was one of those guys I wanted us to draft a few years ago. He was raw, but had all the traits of what you want in a field stretching, playmaking TE... size, speed, athleticism. SD drafted him & he's sat behind Antonio Gates his entire career, being used sparingly & getting much better at route running, blocking, etc. Unless SD locks him up, he will be a free agent this offseason & I truly believe he could be amazing once he has a legit chance to be a featured part of an offense like ours. Really reminds me of the Michael Turner situation... all the way down to it being SD... except at TE rather than HB.

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Tight Ends are weird, IMO. Position that doesnt really pan out a ton in the draft, tends to be very flukey, but can be a game-changer for an offense. 

There are a lot of guys that will be available this offseason that would be worth our time. Green. Allen. Maybe Martellus Bennett winds up on the market (though this is less likely than it was two months ago). 

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9 hours ago, ShanghaiDirtyBird said:

We have to fix the O-line. We have no linebackers. An underperforming pass rush. At a minimum I think Tamme could hold down the fort, but it'd be nice to go get that guy out of San Diego.

 

On 2/17/2016 at 0:32 AM, FalconJim said:


I always liked Chase Coffman, and I think he was on the Denver team this year that won the SB.  Don't know if he would be available, or not,

but, between him and Jacob Tamme (along with Toilolo) we'd have a fairly decent TE group, until we could do better next year. 

Right now, there's just too many other holes to fill to even think about drafting a TE, or getting one through FA. ---- i.e., C, G, a legitimate #2 receiver, S, LB and a DE that can actually sack a QB!!!  :bang: 


 

Troffed.

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yes and sadly its not that high up on the priorities list either unless we can find a true difference maker(I dont see one in the draft or FA). Besides Gronk last year, the last 3-4 SB winning teams have gotten by with just average to decent TEs that mainly block and act as a redzone threat here and there.

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On 2/16/2016 at 0:23 PM, Capitalist said:

Looking back on past 3 years...  Can think of many times a 5-10 yard pass catching TE could have been the difference in a game.

 

Roddy still has some tread on the tires...  But I'm talking about an EXTRA option that defenses must respect...

 

A man can dream can't he?  Current TE's aren't the answer...  Draft needs are heavy in other areas...  Free agent TE's are a crap shoot (Jared Cook might be available)...

 

Who or where is this TE I seek?

Get one of the Colts TEs like Allen from Clemson.

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On 17 February 2016 at 5:32 AM, FalconJim said:


I always liked Chase Coffman, and I think he was on the Denver team this year that won the SB.  Don't know if he would be available, or not,

but, between him and Jacob Tamme (along with Toilolo) we'd have a fairly decent TE group, until we could do better next year. 

Right now, there's just too many other holes to fill to even think about drafting a TE, or getting one through FA. ---- i.e., C, G, a legitimate #2 receiver, S, LB and a DE that can actually sack a QB!!!  :bang: 


 

College Coffman and NFL Coffman are unfortunately two completely different guys. 

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