roguebeaver Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 53 minutes ago, Byrdman242424 said: Cam Newton did not lose the Super Bowl for the Panthers. That fumble or his attempt to get the fumble did not cost them the Super Bowl. Since Matt Ryan was brought into it. How many of his turnovers DID cost the Falcons games just this season? I'll wait. Don't put Matt Ryan where Cam is. Cam is an MVP. NFC South Champion. All in 5 years. The Falcons wish they had Cam Newton, and you're delusional if you say you wouldn't. It kills me how people talk about him being a sore loser and his attitude. Who the **** likes to lose? I'd take Cam's press conference over hearing Matt Ryan saying FOR THE SIXTH WEEK IN A ROW, "I just have to get better." Man, shut up and actually GET better. Sorry bruh but no thank you to *** Newton. Dude is nothing but a character flaw and one issue away from jail. Wow to think the birds would want him over Ryan is nothing but masked man crush on your part for a little bit-o-cam....spelled it right this time, didn't I? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I wonder if the Cam apologists realize he had one of the worst outings as a QB in Super Bowl History? My God if that had been Matt Ryan the Cam apologists would be setting themselves on fire outside of a flowery Branch protestingRyan be cut immediately. The double standard is mind boggling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla1985 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 4 hours ago, Grrrillapmpn Inc.® said: **** cam Newton, but he did lead his team to the super bowl, which is why they play the game. So I can't really hate on him, because my teams qb hasn't accomplished that feat yet. We'll your teams qb played better than cam in 2012 but his sorry assed defense played like a jv squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla1985 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 2 hours ago, gazoo said: I wonder if the Cam apologists realize he had one of the worst outings as a QB in Super Bowl History? My God if that had been Matt Ryan the Cam apologists would be setting themselves on fire outside of a flowery Branch protestingRyan be cut immediately. The double standard is mind boggling. Mind boggling is too soft a phrase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla1985 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, roguebeaver said: Sorry bruh but no thank you to *** Newton. Dude is nothing but a character flaw and one issue away from jail. Wow to think the birds would want him over Ryan is nothing but masked man crush on your part for a little bit-o-cam....spelled it right this time, didn't I? BOOM! I'D take Matt Ryan over 100 Scam Newtons any day of the week and twice on Sunday! Edited February 11, 2016 by Godzilla1985 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insight Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 1 hour ago, gazoo said: I wonder if the Cam apologists realize he had one of the worst outings as a QB in Super Bowl History? My God if that had been Matt Ryan the Cam apologists would be setting themselves on fire outside of a flowery Branch protestingRyan be cut immediately. The double standard is mind boggling. It's sad to see so many people attempt to tear Cam Newton down to elevate Matt Ryan's status. I personally do not like how Cam Newton carries himself to me he is immature and self absorbed but that does not take away from what he has accomplished as a football player. In my opinion he performed poorly in the Superbowl and he should have attempted to recover the fumble that he hesitated to fall on. Let's see how Cam Newton does moving forward because they key is how you grow from your mistakes. We will see how Cam progresses in year 8 or 9, but the fact remains Matt Ryan is not keeping pace with the top QB's in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 11 minutes ago, insight said: It's sad to see so many people attempt to tear Cam Newton down to elevate Matt Ryan's status. I personally do not like how Cam Newton carries himself to me he is immature and self absorbed but that does not take away from what he has accomplished as a football player. In my opinion he performed poorly in the Superbowl and he should have attempted to recover the fumble that he hesitated to fall on. Let's see how Cam Newton does moving forward because they key is how you grow from your mistakes. We will see how Cam progresses in year 8 or 9, but the fact remains Matt Ryan is not keeping pace with the top QB's in the league. Matt Ryan has better regular season and post season stats than Cam does. Matt Ryan has been the better QB in both regular and post season as far as QB play over their tenures. And just to stop you from doing what I know you are get to do, winning is a team stat which includes their defenses, running games, coaching, OLs etc. Ryans best support was in 2012 but it was still nowhere near as good as Cams support this season. btw....Cam didn't just have "a bad game" in the Super Bowl, he had one of the worst games of any QB in Super Bowl history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insight Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 2 hours ago, roguebeaver said: Sorry bruh but no thank you to *** Newton. Dude is nothing but a character flaw and one issue away from jail. Wow to think the birds would want him over Ryan is nothing but masked man crush on your part for a little bit-o-cam....spelled it right this time, didn't I? What activity is Cam Newton engaged in that has him one issue away from jail? What off the field issues has he been evolved in during his pro career that indicates he is on the road to incarceration? Sorry your post sounds very bias. Were you posting the same things about Brett Farve when his brother killed his best friend? or his sister was popped for drug trafficking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardog357 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 4 hours ago, The Great American said: Jake Delhomme would have went after that fumble!!! Haell Yeah he would've! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insight Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) 13 minutes ago, gazoo said: Matt Ryan has better regular season and post season stats than Cam does. Matt Ryan has been the better QB in both regular and post season as far as QB play over their tenures. And just to stop you from doing what I know you are get to do, winning is a team stat which includes their defenses, running games, coaching, OLs etc. Ryans best support was in 2012 but it was still nowhere near as good as Cams support this season. btw....Cam didn't just have "a bad game" in the Super Bowl, he had one of the worst games of any QB in Super Bowl history. If this was true, he would have earned league MVP. Matt Ryan has had some very good seasons but the reality is he has done less with more weapons that most of the top QB's in the league. BTW, Denver couldn't even move the ball, Cam lead his team in rushing yards, and was hit more than any other QB in Superbowl history which affected his play. Matt Ryan cost us at least 3 games the season committing terrible turnovers, this is not a good year to compare Matt to Cam. Edited February 11, 2016 by insight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla1985 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 46 minutes ago, insight said: It's sad to see so many people attempt to tear Cam Newton down to elevate Matt Ryan's status. I personally do not like how Cam Newton carries himself to me he is immature and self absorbed but that does not take away from what he has accomplished as a football player. In my opinion he performed poorly in the Superbowl and he should have attempted to recover the fumble that he hesitated to fall on. Let's see how Cam Newton does moving forward because they key is how you grow from your mistakes. We will see how Cam progresses in year 8 or 9, but the fact remains Matt Ryan is not keeping pace with the top QB's in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla1985 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 40 minutes ago, insight said: What activity is Cam Newton engaged in that has him one issue away from jail? What off the field issues has he been evolved in during his pro career that indicates he is on the road to incarceration? Sorry your post sounds very bias. Were you posting the same things about Brett Farve when his brother killed his best friend? or his sister was popped for drug trafficking? ALL of your posts seem biased again the qb of the team you claim to be a fan of so it begs the question. ...WHAT IS YOUR AGENDA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Positive Thinker Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Cam jumped back because Kalil had a bead on the recovery and didn't want to mess that up. I can't believe no one saw that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 2 minutes ago, ATL58FAN said: Cam jumped back because Kalil had a bead on the recovery and didn't want to mess that up. I can't believe no one saw that. Oh trust me, 115,000,000 people saw that very clearly and a handful of Cam lovers seem to be confused at what they saw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insight Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 45 minutes ago, Godzilla1985 said: ALL of your posts seem biased again the qb of the team you claim to be a fan of so it begs the question. ...WHAT IS YOUR AGENDA? Your failure to answer the question directly speaks volumes. I support the Atlanta Falcons and enjoy discussing sports talk with other sports fans. In my book sports remains and area that brings people of different backgrounds together for one common goal. My agenda does not consist of attacking someones character implying they are a criminal because of how they look physically and their failure to follow politically correct behavior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevykev21 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 4 hours ago, ATL58FAN said: Cam jumped back because Kalil had a bead on the recovery and didn't want to mess that up. I can't believe no one saw that. LMAO!!! That would literally be the only time in football history, at any level, that someone backed off of trying to recover a fumble because another teammate " had a bead on the recovery". He hesitated and blew it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Old Pappy Falcon* Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 10 hours ago, octoslash said: When Ryan's gone a lot of folks are going to say, "Wow, I guess he wasn't so bad", because we're probably going to be stuck with someone much worse. Good NFL qbs are harder to get than a handjob at a funeral. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickzero Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 There are about 6 or seven teams the that are glad they don't have to deal with Newton as their Qb. They are happy right where they are. I don't see how someone could want a Qb that stuggles at pocket passing...I just don't get that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravedigger Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 8 hours ago, Godzilla1985 said: We'll your teams qb played better than cam in 2012 but his sorry assed defense played like a jv squad. Sorry, I need to stop trying to fight this myth , but it's hard. The offense lost the NFCC game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 15 hours ago, A Pimp Named Slickback™ said: Some people like Cam, some don't... Some like Ryan, some don't... There will always be Ryan defenders that bash Cam, and vice versa...no matter what. Just the way it is. I'd like to see the responses to your thread though OP, getting my popcorn ready. this is the best response I've seen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 14 hours ago, octoslash said: When Ryan's gone a lot of folks are going to say, "Wow, I guess he wasn't so bad", because we're probably going to be stuck with someone much worse. Good NFL qbs are harder to get than a handjob at a funeral. I doubt it. If you run into a situation like the Falcons did the year Vick was arrested then sure but if you get your self prepared in the same way a team like green Bay did then that won't be an issue. Within the next few years they're gonna have to bite the bullet on a first round pick or second round pick and grab the future qb. Thinking Matt is the only qb that can lead the team to success is just plain silly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla1985 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 8 hours ago, gazoo said: Oh trust me, 115,000,000 people saw that very clearly and a handful of Cam lovers seem to be confused at what they saw. Kahlil was 3 feet BEHIND the Bronco defender. Cam had the same look as someone who was jumping back from a rattle snake. He got pounded all night & was scared. He didn't want it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla1985 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 28 minutes ago, ya_boi_j said: I doubt it. If you run into a situation like the Falcons did the year Vick was arrested then sure but if you get your self prepared in the same way a team like green Bay did then that won't be an issue. Within the next few years they're gonna have to bite the bullet on a first round pick or second round pick and grab the future qb. Thinking Matt is the only qb that can lead the team to success is just plain silly Considering he has several good years left that would be extremely silly to waste a 1st or 2nd on a QB for the next several years. Farve had been in the league 14 years before Rodgers was drafted. Apples to oranges comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eight Track Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Since this is a Ryan/Cam comparison thread, let me offer this scenario. Suppose both QBs make it to the Pro Bowl next season. Which one will receive a heavier pass rush and which one will have better blocking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla1985 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 8 hours ago, insight said: Your failure to answer the question directly speaks volumes. I support the Atlanta Falcons and enjoy discussing sports talk with other sports fans. In my book sports remains and area that brings people of different backgrounds together for one common goal. My agenda does not consist of attacking someones character implying they are a criminal because of how they look physically and their failure to follow politically correct behavior. To answer your question, Matt's 2012 QB Playoff run was BETTER than Cam Newton's. Matt Ryan carved up two of the top defenses in the league that run with a piss poor excuse for a defense. Cam road his run his defense all the way through the playoffs this year and got EXPOSED for what he is by the Broncos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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