Dr Long Shot Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) I haven't checked the board in a while but it surprised me I couldn't find a thread of this in the first few pages of TATF. Cam's explanation was that his leg was sort of in a weird angle and he didn't wan't to injure himself. And I hate making a Matt Ryan thread but I can't help myself here. Considering Matt Ryan got a lot of heat from sliding once when we were already out of contention during a 4-12 season, can someone explain why no one is bringing up Cam doing something ten times more ridiculously cowardly in the biggest game of his and his team's history ? Wonder what the reaction on here would be if Matt Ryan pulled a stunt like that and then admitted he did it because he is a little *****. What's the reaction of all these people that were all over Cam's jockstrap this year, calling him the man and calling Matt a loser? Matt played his *** off during two seasons where our entire team around him crumbled into dust. He had a bad year this year, but people here are ready to write off a guy who has not only led us to the playoffs many times and once had a monster game to put us one play away from a Superbowl, but who has also shown a consistent willingness to play hard during terrible situations for himself and the team. This guy Cam on the other hand has shown throughout not only this year, but his entire career, that when things don't go his way he turns into a thousand wet diapers. Edited February 10, 2016 by Dr Long Shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdz4i Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevykev21 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 This is TATF, where we stick up for other players and trash our own. We like to ride the jockstrap's of anyone and everyone else, and make excuses for them....its what we do on the regular. We are pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.11 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Go read the other 10 threads about Cam to find your answer, which is no, he hasn't escaped criticism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Pimp Named Slickback™ Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Some people like Cam, some don't... Some like Ryan, some don't... There will always be Ryan defenders that bash Cam, and vice versa...no matter what. Just the way it is. I'd like to see the responses to your thread though OP, getting my popcorn ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octoslash Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Vick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnrealfalcoN Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 people like to hate too much on the skinny white guy and I'm saying that as a non-white man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Long Shot Posted February 10, 2016 Author Share Posted February 10, 2016 It's just hypocritcal to me that the same people crucifying Matt a few years ago where slobbering all over Cam's schlong this year, is all. Cam has been a ***** and a baby since day one. All he does is take all the spotlight and deflect all the blame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grrrillapmpn Inc.® Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 **** cam Newton, but he did lead his team to the super bowl, which is why they play the game. So I can't really hate on him, because my teams qb hasn't accomplished that feat yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Long Shot Posted February 10, 2016 Author Share Posted February 10, 2016 1 minute ago, ☼UnrealFalcon☼ said: people like to hate too much on the skinny white guy and I'm saying that as a non-white man Yea, Matt Ryan is boring. To me that's not a problem. The dude plays his *** off and has produced at a high level for many years. A luxury I guess all these 14 year old fans can't appreciate, but that the the long life fans of this Franchise should be capable of doing after what we have seen in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlfanstckndenver Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Yea, to be honest op, this has been discussed at great lengths already. Cam has been severely criticized by literally all fan bases including his very own Panther fans. I don't see much more to add to the discussion personally. I'm over it. I was certainly a big anti Cam guy leading up the the big game considering how much I had to hear about his greatness, but at this point there's no need to kick a dead horse. I do agree with the double standard and weird tendency of Atlanta fans always thinking the grass is greener on the other side. Ultimately I sincerely hope Cam grows from that experience. If he doesn't that's a very bad road to be going down. Also one thing i found out that hasn't been mentioned a whole lot was that during the post game presser for which he was also severely criticized, what many haven't noticed or mentioned, was that during the whole thing, there's actually a Broncos defender being asked questions about how their defense shut down Cam and Carolina. I wanna say it was Chris Harris Jr. But after seeing this video, you can basically gather That during the whole interview, Cam was trying to ignore the opposing defender that just helped dominate and neutralize his talents talking about how they knew that if they could force Cam to be a pocket thrower they thought he would fail. What I'm getting at is that there was more to it than meets the eye. Don't get me wrong, either way Cam should've been a man and handled his ****. Still, that would sting to hear the opposition elaborating about shutting your *** down, but that's also just how the press row is set up at the super bowl, so it's not as if this was the first player to go through this. It's just a small part of being on the big stage. I just thought it was interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Long Shot Posted February 10, 2016 Author Share Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Atlfanstckndenver said: Yea, to be honest op, this has been discussed at great lengths already. Cam has been severely criticized by literally all fan bases including his very own Panther fans. I don't see much more to add to the discussion personally. I'm over it. I was certainly a big anti Cam guy leading up the the big game considering how much I had to hear about his greatness, but at this point there's no need to kick a dead horse. I do agree with the double standard and weird tendency of Atlanta fans always thinking the grass is greener on the other side. Ultimately I sincerely hope Cam grows from that experience. If he doesn't that's a very bad road to be going down. Also one thing i found out that hasn't been mentioned a whole lot was that during the post game presser for which he was also severely criticized, what many haven't noticed or mentioned, was that during the whole thing, there's actually a Broncos defender being asked questions about how their defense shut down Cam and Carolina. I wanna say it was Chris Harris Jr. But after seeing this video, you can basically gather That during the whole interview, Cam was trying to ignore the opposing defender that just helped dominate and neutralize his talents talking about how they knew that if they could force Cam to be a pocket thrower they thought he would fail. What I'm getting at is that there was more to it than meets the eye. Don't get me wrong, either way Cam should've been a man and handled his ****. Still, that would sting to hear the opposition elaborating about shutting your *** down, but that's also just how the press row is set up at the super bowl, so it's not as if this was the first player to go through this. It's just a small part of being on the big stage. I just thought it was interesting. I actually don't care much about the interview. I am an emotional guy myself, so I understand these type of reactions and how they shouldn't be held as the measuring stick for character. However, the fumble? his quote about the fumble? If I'm a teammate of Cam and I see and hear these things my respect goes flying out the window. It's the freaking superbowl we are talking about here. You step on a ******* land-mine if that gives you a chance to win should be the attitude. Edited February 10, 2016 by Dr Long Shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomak Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 37 minutes ago, octoslash said: Vick Oh no you had to go there didn't you........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octoslash Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 When Ryan's gone a lot of folks are going to say, "Wow, I guess he wasn't so bad", because we're probably going to be stuck with someone much worse. Good NFL qbs are harder to get than a handjob at a funeral. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durrtay Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 It's all been said in pictures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 It's because some Falcon fans who bash Matt Ryan incessantly inexplicably love Cam Newton and have put him up on a pedestal. They apologize for the press conference, apologize for Cams abysmal Super Bowl performance and apologize for him refusing to go get the ball HE HIMSELF fumbled that sealed the Panther Super Bowl loss. The Matt Ryan haters biggest argument was that the good QBs in the NFL lift their entire teams to victory in the big games. Yet after watching Cam throw 0 TDs with 3 turnovers in the biggest game of his life, these people are defending his performance and making apologies for him refusing to dive on the ball. Heres a fact: Matt Ryan has performed much better than Cam Newton in the playoffs as far as QB play. The Ryan haters automatically divert to wins because those are a team stat and Ryan has never had anywhere near the team backing him up that Cam had this year. Cam has won more because he's had more support, not because he's played better in big games. Matt Ryan is hands down the better big game QB and he's a better QB period than Cam Newton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkflight Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 It's TATF. Why would we be talking about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrdman242424 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Cam Newton did not lose the Super Bowl for the Panthers. That fumble or his attempt to get the fumble did not cost them the Super Bowl. Since Matt Ryan was brought into it. How many of his turnovers DID cost the Falcons games just this season? I'll wait. Don't put Matt Ryan where Cam is. Cam is an MVP. NFC South Champion. All in 5 years. The Falcons wish they had Cam Newton, and you're delusional if you say you wouldn't. It kills me how people talk about him being a sore loser and his attitude. Who the **** likes to lose? I'd take Cam's press conference over hearing Matt Ryan saying FOR THE SIXTH WEEK IN A ROW, "I just have to get better." Man, shut up and actually GET better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 1 minute ago, Byrdman242424 said: Cam Newton did not lose the Super Bowl for the Panthers. That fumble or his attempt to get the fumble did not cost them the Super Bowl. Since Matt Ryan was brought into it. How many of his turnovers DID cost the Falcons games just this season? I'll wait. Don't put Matt Ryan where Cam is. Cam is an MVP. NFC South Champion. All in 5 years. The Falcons wish they had Cam Newton, and you're delusional if you say you wouldn't. It kills me how people talk about him being a sore loser and his attitude. Who the **** likes to lose? I'd take Cam's press conference over hearing Matt Ryan saying FOR THE SIXTH WEEK IN A ROW, "I just have to get better." Man, shut up and actually GET better. So Cam Newton's 3 turnovers had no part in them losing the Super Bowl? Did I seriously just ******* read that complete horseshit of a post? OMG!!! The lengths some people will go to defend Cameron Newton while bashing Matt Ryan is just ******* beyond my level of comprehension!!! Holy **** me!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 3 minutes ago, Byrdman242424 said: Cam Newton did not lose the Super Bowl for the Panthers. That fumble or his attempt to get the fumble did not cost them the Super Bowl. Since Matt Ryan was brought into it. How many of his turnovers DID cost the Falcons games just this season? I'll wait. Don't put Matt Ryan where Cam is. Cam is an MVP. NFC South Champion. All in 5 years. The Falcons wish they had Cam Newton, and you're delusional if you say you wouldn't. It kills me how people talk about him being a sore loser and his attitude. Who the **** likes to lose? I'd take Cam's press conference over hearing Matt Ryan saying FOR THE SIXTH WEEK IN A ROW, "I just have to get better." Man, shut up and actually GET better. Ok, so Cam Newtons 3 turnovers did not lose the Super Bolw for the Panthers, two of them that led to TDs for Denver. Are you suggesting it was Cams defense lost it? My God, the double standard is breathtaking. Can you imagine if Matt Ryan had the same kind of game in a Super Bowl and then jumped back away from one of his fumbles instead of dive in to try and recover it? There would be hundreds of threads he blaming Matt Ryan exclusively for the loss, and we all know this to be true. yet another Cam apologist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 ESPN Stats & Info– Verified account @ESPNStatsInfo Cam Newton: 10 overthrown passes in #SB50, tied for the most in a game in Super Bowl history (Jim Kelly in XXVI, Stan Humphries in XXIX) 7:46 AM - 8 Feb 2016 274 RETWEETS332 LIKES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great American Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Jake Delhomme would have went after that fumble!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schwarzenegger321 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 28 minutes ago, Byrdman242424 said: Cam Newton did not lose the Super Bowl for the Panthers. That fumble or his attempt to get the fumble did not cost them the Super Bowl. Since Matt Ryan was brought into it. How many of his turnovers DID cost the Falcons games just this season? I'll wait. Don't put Matt Ryan where Cam is. Cam is an MVP. NFC South Champion. All in 5 years. The Falcons wish they had Cam Newton, and you're delusional if you say you wouldn't. It kills me how people talk about him being a sore loser and his attitude. Who the **** likes to lose? I'd take Cam's press conference over hearing Matt Ryan saying FOR THE SIXTH WEEK IN A ROW, "I just have to get better." Man, shut up and actually GET better. Whaaaaat!!! Are you kidding me. There was a point. I think it was two years ago, so in year three of Scam's career, where Matt Ryan had more wins in Charlotte than Cam did. Think about that. The reason Cam was in the Super bowl this year was because of that defense and a good running game. Yes, Cam is a great athlete, yes when he runs the ball he is dangerous, but I doubt you would find many true Falcon fans that would want him on this team, much less to replace Matt Ryan. Scam wins because the rest of the team put him in a position to win. Ryan has won the last three years in spite of the team putting him in a position to lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkMc44 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Cam's post game press conference is understandable. Matt would have dis-located his jaw eating turf to get the fumble. Bottom line, the game plan is to hit Cam hard and often! We'll see what the future holds. GO FALCONS!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macknsweetjones Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 46 minutes ago, Byrdman242424 said: Cam Newton did not lose the Super Bowl for the Panthers. That fumble or his attempt to get the fumble did not cost them the Super Bowl. Since Matt Ryan was brought into it. How many of his turnovers DID cost the Falcons games just this season? I'll wait. Don't put Matt Ryan where Cam is. Cam is an MVP. NFC South Champion. All in 5 years. The Falcons wish they had Cam Newton, and you're delusional if you say you wouldn't. It kills me how people talk about him being a sore loser and his attitude. Who the **** likes to lose? I'd take Cam's press conference over hearing Matt Ryan saying FOR THE SIXTH WEEK IN A ROW, "I just have to get better." Man, shut up and actually GET better. Agreed saying that I love Matt Ryan as our QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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