Draftnut57 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 OK, Do you remember me making a post mid season when i was very upset that Shanny was using O# plays that took way to long to set up before Matt could throw the ball?? And Matt was getting Sacked way to much. Some of our O# plays were taking 5 to 8 seconds ,, OK!! Heres the point.. Did anybody else notice that there was not one O# play by Peyton that took him over 3 seconds to get rid of the ball. after I noticed this , I started keeping up with this.. And every O# play it was 3 seconds on the dot. Every play!!! That O# knows when to look for the ball on every play,, if there were any longer I didn't see it.Now I didnt' start keeping up with this until the second Half.. But The WRs, RBs , TEs know to look for the ball in 3 seconds from the snap. AS soon as the snap u could count it, 1 2 3 throw,,, over and over and over , I did not see it take more or less. So , if you want to know whey Peyton had success, He didn't give the opposing team time to get to him. I was so so mad at the beginning of the year how Shannies O# plays tookso set up and we saw Ryan nearly get killed... made me mad,, and I don't get mad easy.. Shanny needs to look and learn from the SB. One two three ,, gone 1 2 3 gone.. You can't sack a QB that gets rid of the ball that fast.. And yes , even if it's short gains, it not only wears out the opposing D# , it keeps turnovers out. and possesion of the ball, Like is said in post when we started losing, this was our down fall. Those sacks and turnovers that came by 6 to 8 second O# plays is what killed us and brought those Loses .... Why can a couch Coach who never played the game can see this and not a professional O# Coach like Shanny.????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird dog Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 I agree with your point, but don't really know if last nights game was a good example. The Broncos o side of the ball seemed to be struggling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draftnut57 Posted February 8, 2016 Author Share Posted February 8, 2016 1 minute ago, bird dog said: I agree with your point, but don't really know if last nights game was a good example. The Broncos o side of the ball seemed to be struggling I made a post on this after we hit that 3 game losing streak , That we needed quicker O# passing plays,, I know that sometimes when we are behind you have to look for a deep ball , but if you stick to the quick Throws like DEnver did last night, you may not have to get to the Hail mary plays and depend on luck. Yes, when you get to a place in the game you have to throw long, then do it. But I think that if you stick to the quick plays and high % plays, you can eat up time and control the t.o.p. and the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E. T. Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Peyton's job was to manage the game and not turn the ball over to give the panthers good field position... with the exception of that int, Peyton did his job and the Bronco D did theirs. Excellent game planning by the Broncos knowing that their offense would struggle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The O.D.B Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 8 second play development.........? I'd say that was not designed but rather, a play that was breaking down. Peyton can't throw any more so they had to design shorter plays. Shanny will be just find once we get a few more pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draftnut57 Posted February 8, 2016 Author Share Posted February 8, 2016 Well, they designed the right strategy to win the SB, And it was with mostly 3 second O# plays,,!!! that is my point and the reason I made the post on here why Ryan was getting killed this year and the reason why we did not make the playoffs this year. I'd give anything if I could Tell Shanny this.. You cannot have O# plays that take over 4 seconds in the NFL and not get your QB on the Ground and get him knocked out for the game or the year. I do believe that Shanny saw this after he was told by many, He's a little hard headed but I think he finiallly saw this, I hope, if not we will never get better. Or maybe I should put it like this,, You sure can't take over 4 seconds to get rid of the ball with our O# line !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draftnut57 Posted February 8, 2016 Author Share Posted February 8, 2016 15 minutes ago, The O.D.B said: 8 second play development.........? I'd say that was not designed but rather, a play that was breaking down. Peyton can't throw any more so they had to design shorter plays. Shanny will be just find once we get a few more pieces. But when you have quick plays , the Opposing D don't have time to get set up on our WRs and RBs.. That is the key... and the point to this ,, And the 2nd reason why Denver won, We all know the main reason why was their Epic D# that may be the best D# I've ever seen. With our QB and RB, if we can get our OL fixed in FACy and pick up a WR and some star D# players ,, And Shanny reallizes we need to stick to the quicker plays, WE could make it to a SB within the next two years. It's all according if they see the needs of our team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great American Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Omaha was not working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draftnut57 Posted February 8, 2016 Author Share Posted February 8, 2016 50 minutes ago, The O.D.B said: 8 second play development.........? I'd say that was not designed but rather, a play that was breaking down. Peyton can't throw any more so they had to design shorter plays. Shanny will be just find once we get a few more pieces. And the very point that I tried to make when Ryan was getting killed in those games, I'm hoping Shanny learns something from this SB game and dumps the O# plays that takes more than 4 seconds to set up.. Other than if we get behind and have to get JJ down field. But if we will stick to the quick plays with our D# getting better and our running game much better, we may not have to go to those hail Mary's and try win with luck. I think after one more draft if it's as good as our last draft, And if we can pick up the OC and Guard we need in FAcy. We will be a team to be reckoned with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla1985 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Um....their offense looked meh all night. They scored ONE TD all night & that was in the 4th quarter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HASHBROWN3 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 And the panties tough D still got to him on many occasions. We have work to do on D and O. Good post OP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUsualStuff Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 1 hour ago, Draftnut57 said: OK, Do you remember me making a post mid season when i was very upset that Shanny was using O# plays that took way to long to set up before Matt could throw the ball?? And Matt was getting Sacked way to much. Some of our O# plays were taking 5 to 8 seconds ,, OK!! Heres the point.. Did anybody else notice that there was not one O# play by Peyton that took him over 3 seconds to get rid of the ball. after I noticed this , I started keeping up with this.. And every O# play it was 3 seconds on the dot. Every play!!! Just for the record... that had something to do with Peyton having an almost broken foot and a noodle arm. I'm not a huge Shanny supporter, but their play designs had little to do with anything else other than Manning being old, hurt, and lacking ability to get the ball downfield. Just for the record, his stats with these 3 second passes were 13-23 for 141 yards, no TD's and 1 int. I don't think that is any recipe for us to be following with Matt Ryan and our defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draftnut57 Posted February 8, 2016 Author Share Posted February 8, 2016 16 minutes ago, TheUsualStuff said: Just for the record... that had something to do with Peyton having an almost broken foot and a noodle arm. I'm not a huge Shanny supporter, but their play designs had little to do with anything else other than Manning being old, hurt, and lacking ability to get the ball downfield. Just for the record, his stats with these 3 second passes were 13-23 for 141 yards, no TD's and 1 int. I don't think that is any recipe for us to be following with Matt Ryan and our defense. Well your making my point but not agreeing with it,,,???? Ah...... Do you not like the results???????????????? That is the point my friend. It brings a Championship. .... Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhh !!! We should not have passing plays that take a very long time to set up or Ryan will get knocked out of the game eventually , Quick plays is the answer and built a great D#,,, Yes, if we are behind late we will have to go deep to JJ. and sometimes it works, But that is not how you going to win most games. KISS is what I believe in, Keep It Simple Stupid ... That what I'd like to tell Shanny. At least he did get rid of those plays that nearly got Ryan knocked out.. If Ryan was not a tough player, he would have gotten knocked out during that learning process that Shanny was going threw in the middle of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUsualStuff Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 So your point is that Matt Ryan has a broken foot and noodle arm and what we need to do is throw only 5 to 10 yard passes? 3 second passes didn't bring Denver any championship. The only thing you are right about is the need for us to build a top notch defense. The last thing in the world we need is Julio Jones reduced to catching 5 yard out patterns because of some mandate that Ryan get rid of the ball as quickly as Manning did for the majority of the Superbowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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