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1 hour ago, dirtyhairy said:

Reports coming in that 90 precincts may be missing. We also have the news that coin toss's were used to decide other democrat precints, of which, Hillary won 5 out of 6. The Clinton cabal is already in full swing and the cheating has just begun. 

Maybe a troll or 2 can explain this all to us minions on the AFMB. I'm sure at least 2 here are ready, willing and able to deflect all of the egregious Clinton deeds.

FRAUD? While Hillary declares Iowa victory, look what happened in 90 PRECINCTS…

Written by Michelle Jesse, Associate Editor on February 2, 2016
HILLARY CLINTON
 

The first main event of the 2016 election cycle is barely in the books, and already we’re getting whiffs of somethin’ fishy in the reporting of results.

 

It appears that Democrat results from some 90 precincts may be missing.

Via The Blaze:

The Bernie Sanders campaign said early Tuesday morning that it was informed by the Iowa Democratic Party that results from 90 precincts were missing.

 

That was the reason for the hold up last night: They had to get both Clinton and Sanders caucus leaders back together to recount the results of these precincts where there were issues turning in the results for one reason or another.

Speaking of caucus problems, apparently Cruz supporters interpreted their campaign relaying the news that Carson was heading home to Florida as him dropping out so they told Carson's supporters this and convinced many of them to switch their votes to Cruz. I'm going to chalk this up to human error since I can see why they'd interpret that in such a way but I wonder how much that helped Cruz and hurt Carson.

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9 minutes ago, GEORGIAfan said:

Best News out of Iowa for HRC.

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Won the nonwhite vote 58 -34 in a state where Bernie had 94% familiarity. This is going to be an even bigger problem as states become more diverse. Also CBS exit polls show HRC won the union household vote. 

GF, get over your HRC fantasy.  She had to win six straight coin tosses to win the Iowa caucus...

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2016/02/02/hillary-clinton-wins-six-precincts-bytoss-of-a-coin_n_9138292.html

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A few months ago, the support for Hillary's opponent(I say that because that's what it is perceived as. ONLY Hillary's opposition) was in single digits. When the gap closed, "it's just temporary and it's at a plateau." When it continued to rise, "polls are too inaccurate this early." Now that it's an actual race, "meh, just what we expected. No biggie."

 

T.o.o.l.

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21 minutes ago, WhenFalconsWin said:

GF, get over your HRC fantasy.  She had to win six straight coin tosses to win the Iowa caucus...

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2016/02/02/hillary-clinton-wins-six-precincts-bytoss-of-a-coin_n_9138292.html

That is a miracle. Proof God is on team HRC. 

 

HRC 2016! #ImWithHer

-God.

:lol:

 

Also the 6 straight coin tosses would not have given bernie the win. The coin tosses were for county delegate not state delegates. 

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The Iowa caucus process is thoroughly complicated, from start to finish. What matters here is that the delegates that were won with the coin toss were not actual convention delegates but county delegates. The tally that Clinton won by four delegates was "state delegate equivalents," a calculation that estimates how many delegates to the state Democratic convention will result from each side's winning enough county delegates. There were nearly 1,700 precincts that held caucuses on Monday and in most of them, according to the blogBleeding Heartland, four or more county delegates were identified. That's thousands more county delegates than the 1,400 delegates that will go to the state convention — where the actual delegates that attend the nominating convention in Philadelphia will be chosen.

Update: The initial 6-for-6 report, from the Des Moines Register missed a few Sanders coin-toss wins. (There were a lot of coin tosses!) The ratio of Clinton to Sanders wins was closer to 50-50, which is what we'd expect.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/02/heres-just-how-unlikely-hillary-clintons-6-for-6-coin-toss-victories-were/

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Clinton met with 50 clergy members for a wide-ranging, two-hour discussion ahead of an investment firm fundraiser with rocker Bon Jovi earlier this week. Since then, 28 ministers have pledged their support to Clinton, with more endorsements coming next week, an aide said.

Rev. Mark Tyler, who hosted the gathering at his church, said he went into the meeting not expecting to endorse Clinton but walked away with a positive impression.

"She was extremely warm and personable," Tyler told NBC News. "I think a lot of people in that room felt the same way.

Pastors from parishes across the country discussed criminal justice, income inequality, health care and environmental disasters with Clinton at Mother Bethel A.M.E. church in Society Hill, Philadelphia.

At one point, Clinton spoke forcefully about Flint, Michigan's water emergency, which several members of the meeting said compelled them to endorse her.

"She brought attention to the crisis in Flint, demanded action, and expressed her intent to bring to light the other Flints that occur in our country all too often," Maryland Rev. Zina Pierre said. "She is qualified and equipped to do the job and represent all Americans regardless of religion or color."

Tyler called the group of faith leaders - who traveled from Louisiana, Texas, California and beyond - "some of the most significant African-American clergy persons in the country."

"I want to be your partner, not just your president," Clinton told them.

Several of the meeting's attendees urged Clinton to hold a press conference, but the campaign decided against it because they didn't want to turn the meeting into a "spectacle."

During the meeting, Tyler said he was very pleased that Clinton brought up historically black colleges and universities and "put a dollar amount" on HBCU support if elected president.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/clinton-builds-support-black-ministers-n507631

Lets not forget Trump's attempt to coerce 100 pastors into endorsing him and trying to turn it into a media stunt, but then got SCHLONGED when the majority of them didn't even show up and only 8 actually endorsed him.  

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Tying the inevitable nominee and glorious madam secretary(as stated by her ignorant fanboys) will only improve the already amazing fund raising.

 

To know that Hillary and her fanboys are once again dealing with a more rapid heartbeat when someone genuine comes along to threaten her hopes of a gift presidency is priceless.

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5 minutes ago, Andras said:

At least the biased media isn't ignorant enough to act like last night wasn't impressive and more trouble for Hillary than they all expected.

It's surprising any time a vote is that close. It's also not much of a secret that Sanders' support is mostly white populists and after Iowa and New Hampshire states that are lopsided in that demographic become far and few between. He needed a win in Iowa to build a better case for himself and fell just short.

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Says who? You?

 

He needed to show that he could compete after starting out with single digit support. No one was legitimately stupid enough to think that a decisive win was going to occur when the money is not that of the Wall Street puppet and hardly any media coverage at all.

 

Iowa was to be a start. No one without bias will declare that his campaign has plateaued to the point where Iowa was a must win.

Last night did not hurt the campaign. Fund raising will only improve.

I guess we can all sit and expect the Justice Department to dismiss her clear violations and give her the token presidency to go along with her other token positions.

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Just now, Andras said:

Says who? You?

 

He needed to show that he could compete after starting out with single digit support. No one was legitimately stupid enough to think that a decisive win was going to occur when the money is not that of the Wall Street puppet and hardly any media coverage at all.

 

Iowa was to be a start. No one without bias will declare that his campaign has plateaued to the point where Iowa was a must win.

Last night did not hurt the campaign. Fund raising will only improve.

I guess we can all sit and expect the Justice Department to dismiss her clear violations and give her the token presidency to go along with her other token positions.

The only people expecting Sanders to win Iowa decisively were his most delusional supporters.

In reality, he needed to win Iowa and New Hampshire, even slim victories, so he could point to those wins going into states where he's struggling (ie. most of the rest) as proof that he can beat Hillary. Instead he narrowly lost and all you hear from his supporters is that it was a tie, the "real winner," is Bernie, and that Hillary is full of herself for saying she won after she, y'know, won. Instead of going on the offensive all you have is spin doctoring to cover up a slim defeat.

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PPS: Should we also sit here and forget that many considered the Sanders campaign to be equivalent to the Trump campaign where only the fringes support him/them? Iowa was about proving something to boost the campaign.

 

If he is smart, he should run as a third party.  Anyone but Hillary. Anyone.

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4 minutes ago, Andras said:

P.S. If this country was looking to just give a presidency to a woman to be so p.c., Warren was the better choice but the Clinton name is flashy and is enough to gather support. If only there were some substance behind it.

Warren must be regretting her decision to urge Hillary to run then.

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Just now, Psychic Gibbon said:

It happened. The amount of spam I got for every favorable poll for Sanders as proof that he was going to crush it I got leading into the caucus was truly ridiculous.

I call BS. Where were you getting it from?

 

Every now and then I checked the emails and they underlined hope, not expectations. "What if we were to win in Iowa?" etc

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It's easy to just name off some sites, isn't it?

Also, isn't it funny when certain posters pick and choose when anecdotal evidence is applicable?

 

If we were to all do that, I could assume, by looking at AFMB, that every Hillary supporter has no clue about their candidate and only follows trends and gobble up media hype that has been put out for 10 years regarding her. That wouldn't be quite fair though because anecdotal evidence is rather weak.

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2 minutes ago, Andras said:

It's easy to just name off some sites, isn't it?

Also, isn't it funny when certain posters pick and choose when anecdotal evidence is applicable?

 

If we were to all do that, I could assume, by looking at AFMB, that every Hillary supporter has no clue about their candidate and only follows trends and gobble up media hype that has been put out for 10 years regarding her. That wouldn't be quite fair though because anecdotal evidence is rather weak.

Would you prefer if we ignored every piece of negative data about Sanders' prospects and negative experiences with his fan club and act like everything is gum drops and rainbows with his campaign?

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