Rohn Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Though it would appear to be the right thing that may build a team of leaders and winners. This is football and not a hospital or a corporation. We are dealing with athletes in a very tough environment that means being hungry and mean may have more of a benefit to winning in an actual game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlfanstckndenver Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I don't care whether they are captains or savages. I want winners. We don't need a team full of nothing but diplomats. Sure, a few players that the rest look to for leadership are good to have, but those types come in all forms and the one variable all of them must have is the will to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff_Man Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 This makes less than zero sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 OP is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconstwopercentsized Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 what are we building here a nativity play or a gut dayum foobaw team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Falcon Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 So you want a locker room of guys that will quit as soon it gets tough? A lot of captains are guys people respect. Doesn't mean they are choir boys. Slot of them are *** kickers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halsey. Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Yeah, you can see how being a team captain has turned guys like JJ Watt, Luke Keuchly, Gerald Mccoy and Patrick Peterson into ballerinas. Can't have guys like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeytonMannings Forehead Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Bill Polian disagrees with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUsualStuff Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I never knew team captains couldn't be hungry and tough. Go figure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler11 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Captains tend to be seniors and/or the best players on that college team. Therefore there are always a lot of captains in the draft. We're not the only team with lots of former college captains, it just works out that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 13 hours ago, Atlfanstckndenver said: I don't care whether they are captains or savages. I want winners. We don't need a team full of nothing but diplomats. Sure, a few players that the rest look to for leadership are good to have, but those types come in all forms and the one variable all of them must have is the will to win. Matt Leinart and Vince Young were winners.... Ijs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdz4i Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 yeah. lets go get some morons like hardy. The Cowboys Are Reportedly Parting Ways With Greg Hardy “Hardy partied a lot during the season and simply was not in great physical shape as the season wore on and on and on,” Cole said. “That was part of the reason he was tardy to several meetings during the season and part of the reason the team felt so distracted by his presence.”' http://news.yahoo.com/cowboys-reportedly-parting-ways-greg-023337700.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentayeJones Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 What difference does it make if they are a Captain as long as they are good players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeytonMannings Forehead Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 4 hours ago, birdz4i said: yeah. lets go get some morons like hardy. The Cowboys Are Reportedly Parting Ways With Greg Hardy “Hardy partied a lot during the season and simply was not in great physical shape as the season wore on and on and on,” Cole said. “That was part of the reason he was tardy to several meetings during the season and part of the reason the team felt so distracted by his presence.”' http://news.yahoo.com/cowboys-reportedly-parting-ways-greg-023337700.html BRING HIM HOME TD!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 4 hours ago, FentayeJones said: What difference does it make if they are a Captain as long as they are good players? Every captain isn't necessarily a good player. Don't ask for any examples cause I'm certainly not gonna look at each teams captain. I've seen cases over my years of watching football where the captain wasn't even a starter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlfanstckndenver Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 1 hour ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said: BRING HIM HOME TD!!!!!! Lol i should make clear: savage on the football field, NOT with the women. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 17 hours ago, Worzone said: Decent human beings can't be elite football players is the dumbest thing I've ever read. Go ahead bring on Josh gordon, manziel, Albert Haynesworth instead of ryan julio and babs. Tell me how that goes I've only heard good things about Josh Gordon as a person. Dude just makes stupid mistakes with weed/booze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeytonMannings Forehead Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 3 minutes ago, Atlfanstckndenver said: Lol i should make clear: savage on the football field, NOT with the women. Lol Lol... just getting it in before all the threads pop up. You know they're coming. Doesn't matter if he's a criminal or locker room cancer, or didn't much help his last team. "He's better than what we have now" seems to be all that matters to some people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlfanstckndenver Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 1 minute ago, PeytonMannings Forehead said: Lol... just getting it in before all the threads pop up. You know they're coming. Doesn't matter if he's a criminal or locker room cancer, or didn't much help his last team. "He's better than what we have now" seems to be all that matters to some people. EXACTLY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krammmit Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Yeah man, I agree! We need to stop going after all these team leaders. That's the last thing we need. Nobody wants a vocal locker room, that would be silly. All these dudes out there pumping our team up is hogwash. If they can't pump themselves up they should go play in the CFLNBAMLBR2D2F1C3PO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lornoth Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 23 hours ago, Rohn said: Though it would appear to be the right thing that may build a team of leaders and winners. This is football and not a hospital or a corporation. We are dealing with athletes in a very tough environment that means being hungry and mean may have more of a benefit to winning in an actual game. Well, we wouldn't want to build a team full of Winners, would we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerSteve Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 OP is asking, albeit in a rather convulted way, why this team as presently consituted lacks grit/toughness when the Falcon Filter has led to the drafting of college football captains as a preferred player over someone perhaps more physical. I don't really know how many former team captains or Sunday School class leaders we've drafted, so I can neither confirm or deny our wimpiness is due to having too many of these more intellectural and charismatic and less physical and hard-nosed players. It is a good question, but I think the tide of wimpiness and weakness may have turned recently. The 38-0 drubbing was Exhibit 1 of all that's wrong with the Atlanta Falcons ~ they were not only the least-talented, worst team on the field, they got slapped and had their lunch money stolen. They were treated like a bag of rabbits tossed into a pit with a pack of starving lions. Fast-forward two weeks for Panthers-Falcons, part deux: The Panthers strolled down the field and scored a quick 1st quarter TD. It looked like this could be a repeat of the first encounter, or maybe even a more severe beating was in the offing. But the weirdest thing happend. The rabbits had grown fangs! And in a bizarre twist that set the national sports pundits on their heels, said rabbits turned into long-clawed Falcons who proceeded to spend the rest of the game clawing the behinds of some very surprised and chagrined lions, er Panthers. In that game were perhaps coming signs the Quinn's Falcon D would soon be respected, if not feared. There was the play of oft-maligned Rashede Hageman and Vic Beasley, who sealed the deal by getting to Newton when the Panthers were threatening to steal the game in the last minutes. But the whole defense played tough as nails. After that first score, Newton had dabbed his last, and the Falcon D smothered the Panther's RB's and WR's. There are watershed moments for players, coaches and for teams. This may have been a very important one for the Falcons. Such a big win should certainly become one of those "pillars" Quinn can build on and create a D that can not only bedevil a QB, but also track him down and put him on the ground. And, oh yeah, get off the field on 3rd down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 So Steve.....doesnt that story suggest that most of what people think about as "toughness!" is actually just being "good at football?" The same players in the same scheme played better football and appeared to be tougher and grittier. What changed? The results. I don't think toughness/physicality are imaginary things but holy **** are they overblown. I mean, who on the Seahawks are really TOUGH players? Kam Chancellor? Michael Bennett? They're just good. They're good at playing football. The toughness stuff gets tossed in as a victory bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerSteve Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 No, toughness and playing better football are not exactly the same things. Playing better football is about concentration and focus, playing tougher football is about being more physical, being more aggressive than your opponent from the snap to the echo of the whistle. You can play very technically sound football and not be playing as physically tough as your opponent. Toughness is a lot about attitude, a lot about will and determination, the ability to ignore pain, the joy felt in dishing out pain, and yes, it's also a lot about physical size, strength and ferocity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 This thread is as stupid as the thought that only dirty players are tough players. That you can't be both a clean player and a tough player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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