Osiruz Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 He needs more tds, but he's on pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capologist Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Julio Jones:65 games 414 rec, 6,201 yds, 34 TDCalvin Johnson76 games 366 rec, 5,872 yds, 49 TDEach after their first 5 seasons. Imagine if Julio hadn't missed almost a full season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid-Nite-Toker Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 JJ has to do what Fitz can't do in AZ...win a SB. JJ cost a lot.I'm still opposed to that draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekeyboy1 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) Sure fire HOF'er if he gets those TD #'s up and if he stays healthy(Big IF)..Dude needs to get in the endzone more. Period(unless he wins the BIG one)..And btw, you cant compare old school players #'s with this era's #'s(even tho #'s dont tell the whole story) The rules these days are catered to offensive players..I talk to Deandre Nuuuuk Hopkins about this shizz all the time(who had more TD's in his 3rd season, with a bunch of scrub QB's, than Julio had in his best year)...Michael Irvin was as CLUTCH as it gets, so you need to take him off of your board....Not even comparable to the other players you mentioned. .And in no way is Keyshia Johnson, or Rod Smith for that matter, fkn HOF 'ers imo..Theyve turned it into the "Hall of pretty good"...Not the HOF...smh Edited January 25, 2016 by zekeyboy1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekeyboy1 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) It sort of puts things in perspective with the critics of the trade who feel we shouldn't have done it. The trade brough us a potential Hall of Fame Wide Receiver.Also, you know TD knew the 2012 draft was weak and ultimately was loaded with busts in the first round, so trading our #1 pick in 2012 was unquestionably part of his calculus on the trade.In 1989 we picked Deion Sanders who was the last draft pick by Falcons to get in HOF."TD knew the 2012 draft was weak"....TD doesnt know his azz from a hole in the ground..Much less how to evaluate talent a year down the road. smh.. Edited January 25, 2016 by zekeyboy1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekeyboy1 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Genius GM + "HOF" wr + "Elite" QB = 18-30 record the last 3 yrs..Yippee... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekeyboy1 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 It sort of puts things in perspective with the critics of the trade who feel we shouldn't have done it. The trade brough us a potential Hall of Fame Wide Receiver.Also, you know TD knew the 2012 draft was weak and ultimately was loaded with busts in the first round, so trading our #1 pick in 2012 was unquestionably part of his calculus on the trade.In 1989 we picked Deion Sanders who was the last draft pick by Falcons to get in HOF.Seattle got Bruce Irvin in the 1st, Bobby Wagner in the 2nd, and Russell Wilson in the 3rd...But yeah, Gel boy knew the 2012 draft was weak when he traded the farm for Julio.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanForLife Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Jones plays in Atlanta, so his chances of a HoF induction are seriously threatened. There is a stain around every player who played in Atlanta. His best bet for Canton is to get out of Atlanta as fast as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanForLife Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 It sort of puts things in perspective with the critics of the trade who feel we shouldn't have done it. The trade brough us a potential Hall of Fame Wide Receiver.Also, you know TD knew the 2012 draft was weak and ultimately was loaded with busts in the first round, so trading our #1 pick in 2012 was unquestionably part of his calculus on the trade.In 1989 we picked Deion Sanders who was the last draft pick by Falcons to get in HOF.TD also knew lines and defenses were not important in the NFL, which is why we suck so badly now.Dude you are sounding very pathetic these days, and I used to think you had some understanding of football.At first, I thought your mumbling and meandering were some kind of joke, but know you appear to be serious about TD. All I can say is I feel for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 playoffs and SuperBowl are starting and this is the topic we get.No wonder Atlanta is called Losersville. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 JJ has to do what Fitz can't do in AZ...win a SB. JJ cost a lot.I'm still opposed to that draft.If you could go back and undo that trade - the first piece you get back is the 2011 1st round pick - that would have went for Gabe Carimi (TD is already on record w/ this in an interview on 790-the-zone). The 2nd round pick would probably have been a receiver - cannot be proven but I seriously doubt we would have been better off than w/ Julio.The Julio trade was a net plus - it is all the other picks in 2011/2012 drafts that were mostly horrendous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Sure, he'll probably be in the discussion. Though market saturation could hurt him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzfrow Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Julio's biggest problem is that he has too many drops on routine throws compared to other elite WR's and he doesn't find the end zone as often as he should. Plus he is soft spoken and doesn't get the spotlight like other WR's such as Beckham Jr. and Johnson. Sometimes Julio gets lost in the shuffle, especially when the Falcons have a poor season, like last season when he finished with another great season, but again who outside of Atlanta knew about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stizz Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Seattle got Bruce Irvin in the 1st, Bobby Wagner in the 2nd, and Russell Wilson in the 3rd...But yeah, Gel boy knew the 2012 draft was weak when he traded the farm for Julio..top 10 talent in the league and you're still saying the trade wasn't worth it. Some of you absolutely refuse to credit TD when he hits a home run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulitik Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 The hall of fame isn't just based on stats. It's based on winning. All three receivers you listed have rings.Figured I'd get it out of the way.That's a debate about being a first ballot Hall of Famer, not just an induction. That said if he crosses 12000 yards in 10 years, it might not matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 He is a special talent but he has a couple things working against him........ mostly the era in which he is playing and the fact that WR's take a LONG time to get inducted.... mostly because there have been so many great ones over the past 30 years.But for my money right now..... there is not a receiver in the league I would rather have as a Falcon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-train Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 It really depends on how long he plays & if he stays in a pass happy system.To try to project his numbers after 12 years by just doubling what he's done so far is actually misleading. He nearly set the NFL record for receptions this year, so as good as he may be, if's not extremely likely that he's going to continue to see quite as many targets year in & year out. Also, as freakishly athletic as he might be, time catches up to every man eventually & this means he'll almost undoubtably begin to see some kind of a noticeable decline in production once in his 30's. He will be 27 this season, so projecting his numbers by doubling what he's done now means you are expecting him to potentially have to put up 1600-1870 as a 33 year old. Not impossible, but not exactly likely either.Then consider the fact that Ryan would be 37 & might be gone at the tail end of Julio's career. Thus if we don't have a solid replacement in place at QB right away, Julio may very possibly be stuck with a few years where he has journeymen & struggling rookies throwing him the ball... combined with his natural decline due to age.So, if healthy there is no reason to think he can't put together a few more 1500 yard seasons, but then it's likely to drop to about 1000-1200, and then 800-1000.For perspective: TO only had one season over 1200 yards after turning 30. Randy Moss only had 2 seasons over 1200 after he turned 27. M. Harrison had a monster season at age 30, but just 2 over 1200 after that. Isaac Bruce had just one season over 1200 after turning 28. Yeah, if totally healthy & with a solid QB he has a real chance to be at around 12500-14000 when he's 33.But here is the kicker, these dudes are all waiting to get in...Owens has 16kMoss just over 15kBruce just over 15kTony G just over 15kM. Harrison about 14,600R. Wayne 14,350A. Johnson 14kS. Smith just slightly under 14kFitz is at 13,300 currentlyA. Brown a year older than Julio but at 7200 currentlySo, to be a sure thing in this era you probably gotta put up an absolute minimum of 14500 & have a good number or TDs to go along with those yards.That may be cutting it pretty close. I think he can do it if he continues to put up ridiculous numbers over the next two-three years & then continues to be productive (800-1200 yard range) while playing until about 35 years old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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