The I Can Mock Better That Gdawg Mock V.1 1/14/16

[The O.D.B]

**All respect due to our consummate draft master GDAWG, great poster during draft season.

What grinds my gears:

For years people have been desperate for a pass rush and claiming that's our

biggest need. While I recognize this need I say our biggest need is at the 2nd

and 3rd level of our defense. Remember when ARod destroyed us by targeting a

young Chris Owens? Well, the names have changed but our 2nd and 3rd level

players are not locking things down so, the results are the same. QBs who have

good field vision see this and the result is easy looking completions in

critical situations. I believe with Quinn and our new additions below we will

see the pass rush get home but, we will also stop the open runners down field

that are so often our demise.

In FA I grab a group of young guys coming off very good seasons with their

respective teams but, who don't really have a dedicated spot on their team.

I've also selected guys who fit into TDs responsible financial approach.

NOTE: Roddy, Clayborn, wheeler and Hester stay. Beyond that I won’t comment.

Free Agency:

Brandon Boykin CB

Simply one of the best slot CBs in the game. He could even take outside

snaps away from Rocky, if it comes to that. This move solidifies our CB Corps and gets us away from our reliance on talent that's still developing.

Rishard Matthews WR

A solid WR with great speed. Would work well in Shanny's scheme at a #2

or #3. Face it, dumping Roddy and picking 'X' doesn't mean X will be good or a fit. If X fails then so does the team. So, Bring someone in before he leaves who doesn't blow the bank and can make name for themselves. This will make the transition to the post Roddy era easier and if all goes well seamless.

Brandon Brooks RG

Mark Barron OLB/S

A LB/S combo player for the Rams this past year who got to play at LB

due to injuries. Through 11 games he led the team in tackles. He would improve

our LB coverage ability on passing downs playing there for us and would give us

depth at S. He’s also very good in run support.

DRAFT:

1 Robert Nkemdiche DT

Shane Ray dropped. RN might. RN has it all and could play all the DL

Positions save Paul’s. He could potentially be the one player that pushes

Our pass rush over the top.

2 Carl Nassib DE

The big thing with Carl is his power and non-stop motor. I don’t want to make the

JJ Watt comparison so I’ll just say he’s a JJ Watt sized Kroy. He should be very

Disruptive from the start even if he’s not a sack star.

3 Max Tuerk C

As one report says-You only get the "best center in this draft" here

because he was injured early last year.

4 Elijah Shumate SS

Shumate has good size, speed and coverage ability, He was trusted by the

Irish to play slot on occasion and did well. He's not a vicious hitter but

rather a guy who makes sure to keep the play in front of him and stop it. He's

not a dancer that’s afraid of contact though. He just uses his physicality in a

calculated way. If he knows he can knock you out without risking a blown

play then, you get knocked the F%@k out. Smart player and moves well among the big bodies.

7 Daryl Worley CB -

another long fast CB, Depth. Could be really good

with the right coaching.

UDFA:

Jihad Ward DT 6'5 295

a Shede sized toy for Cox and Quinn to play with. Sounds like a good

hard working kid from a very poor family. Has a ton of potential. May take a year or

two to develop but, the upside is crazy.

Devon Johnson RB 6'1 243

A big nasty guy who could take wards spot and can be our short yardage guy.

Reminds me of Alstott. Plays hard and runs like his arse is on fire.

Jeff Driskel QB 6,4 234

We need to have a real backup QB that has the potential to win if he's

thrown into the frey. Driskel can make all the throws and is a decent running

QB. I believe he might have a better pro career than his school career.

So, when all is said and done

• Improved coverage at SS
• Improved coverage at LB
• Improved coverage at CB
• Potentially improved DL
• Improved Oline

What say you?

[Ben Day Hoe]

We need a kicker too. I like Rishard. Don't think we bring in. CB. Remember how much people did not believe in Freeman. 2nd yr man Collins won't likely make the leap quite as much as freeman did in his 2nd year but you never know.

[The O.D.B]

We need a kicker too. I like Rishard. Don't think we bring in. CB. Remember how much people did not believe in Freeman. 2nd yr man Collins won't likely make the leap quite as much as freeman did in his 2nd year but you never know.

Freeman's was in my draft back when he came out so, I was always very high on him. I think those that were down on him just wanted a big back. Unfortunately, I don't have the same confidence in Collins. I believe he can be very good but, it's going to take a heck of a lot of work. Freeman came in with the ability but we either didn't use him or didn't use him correctly. Collins came in with the size and athleticism but, needs to learn most of the rest. I almost think we need a CB to give him time to learn.

Can't believe I forgot a kicker......doh!

[KRUNKuno]

Mark Barron at linebacker cant really be your only solution for our LB corps.

[rugger8]

But can you mock FASTER and MORE FREQUENTLY than GDawg?

[The O.D.B]

Mark Barron at linebacker cant really be your only solution for our LB corps.

I gotta admit, LB was the toughest for me. Many would cut Wor, Dur, and some of the others but, who do you replace them with? A guy from the draft...Well he's going to have a learning curve. A new guy from another team....he's going to cost a lot and may not translate well. Overall our LBs have the talent but, just need to cover better IMO. many people are counting Wor out but, with his work ethic I wouldn't be surprised to see him much improved in his second year. Dur Is solid overall but, he's also under contract. With all of these things in my head I decided to tweak what we have just a pinch to help them in coverage. It's a gamble but it's either a tweak or a house cleaning and I think our guys will be better this year.

[The O.D.B]

But can you mock FASTER and MORE FREQUENTLY than GDawg?

Not even close. He's probably posted 3 more since this has been up.

[Ovie_Lover]

G-Dawg's was better.

[AndySG]

I would love it. Like the Jihad Ward signing as an UDFA. Heard great things.

[Draftnut57]

Well, I had the same pick in the 3rd as gdawg , OC Evan Evan Misso, in my first mock that I haven't posted yet,, And you've got the same 2nd rd pick as I have in my only mock,, Carl Nessib DE... I like those two picks of course. I'd bet no one has the same frist rd pick that I have 1.Josh Doctson WR TCU,,, 1327 yds and 14 TDs ,, 6-3, 195 . I don't think people know how much a great #2 WR would open up the field for JJ and Freeman...

[KRUNKuno]

Well, I had the same pick in the 3rd as gdawg , OC Evan Evan Misso, in my first mock that I haven't posted yet,, And you've got the same 2nd rd pick as I have in my only mock,, Carl Nessib DE... I like those two picks of course. I'd bet no one has the same frist rd pick that I have 1.Josh Doctson WR TCU,,, 1327 yds and 14 TDs ,, 6-3, 195 . I don't think people know how much a great #2 WR would open up the field for JJ and Freeman...

Bet you havent seen my mock then.

Josh Doctson has been my pick since day one.

[Draftnut57]

Oh well might as well put it on... 1st Mock

1.Josh Doctson WR, TCU,,, 6-3, 195 lbs....1327 yds and 14 TDs

2.Carl Nessib DE, E. Kentucky,, 6-7, 272 lbs....46 T, 20 TFL, 15.5 sacks

3. Landon Turner OG, 6-3, 325 lbs... N.C.

4. AJ Stamps FS, 6.0 205 Kentucky

Fist 4 picks , I,ll post the other 3 latter.

[The O.D.B]

Well, I had the same pick in the 3rd as gdawg , OC Evan Evan Misso, in my first mock that I haven't posted yet,, And you've got the same 2nd rd pick as I have in my only mock,, Carl Nessib DE... I like those two picks of course. I'd bet no one has the same frist rd pick that I have 1.Josh Doctson WR TCU,,, 1327 yds and 14 TDs ,, 6-3, 195 . I don't think people know how much a great #2 WR would open up the field for JJ and Freeman...

No objections from me taking a WR in the first. I just don't believe I like the idea of cutting Roddy until we know we have another that can contribute near his level.

[The O.D.B]

I would love it. Like the Jihad Ward signing as an UDFA. Heard great things.

He's def a large long man, that's for sure. Thanks

[The O.D.B]

Oh well might as well put it on... 1st Mock

1.Josh Doctson WR, TCU,,, 6-3, 195 lbs....1327 yds and 14 TDs

2.Carl Nessib DE, E. Kentucky,, 6-7, 272 lbs....46 T, 20 TFL, 15.5 sacks

3. Landon Turner OG, 6-3, 325 lbs... N.C.

4. AJ Stamps FS, 6.0 205 Kentucky

Fist 4 picks , I,ll post the other 3 latter.

Remember, we only have 1,2,3,4,7 this year.

[Sobeit]

I gotta disagree with you in that our biggest need is not defense. Our defense kept us in some games already. In best case scenario a better defense would have got us one or 2 more wins. How many more wins would have red zone efficency got us though? I'm not saying we should not be improving the defense as we should and it should be a priority. You did good with the Oline but I think you missed a huge need they will be seriously looking to improve and that is the TE. This offense needs 2 TEs that can block and affect a defense in the pass game in order to run more effective 22 sets especially in the red zone.

[The O.D.B]

I gotta disagree with you in that our biggest need is not defense. Our defense kept us in some games already. In best case scenario a better defense would have got us one or 2 more wins. How many more wins would have red zone efficency got us though? I'm not saying we should not be improving the defense as we should and it should be a priority. You did good with the Oline but I think you missed a huge need they will be seriously looking to improve and that is the TE. This offense needs 2 TEs that can block and affect a defense in the pass game in order to run more effective 22 sets especially in the red zone.

I actually gave a lot of thought to the TEs. Tamme is good but you're correct we'll need more than him at some point. I think Tamme can get us where we need to go and I'm hoping Mo will get used more this coming year if we keep him.

[Domed Outter]

Remember, we only have 1,2,3,4,7 this year.

Our draft will have to be nuts.

[Sobeit]

I actually gave a lot of thought to the TEs. Tamme is good but you're correct we'll need more than him at some point. I think Tamme can get us where we need to go and I'm hoping Mo will get used more this coming year if we keep him.

I think they will make it a priority. I do not think DT will be a priority early though I think they have 2 young guys that will be ok and I think Mbu may be a steal so I do not see it being that pressing. We may pick up some depth there depending on the plan for Solia but I do not think it will be in the 1st. Nassib I kind of like I really do not see him being a big drop off from a couple of others going in the 1st and I think the best value at DE may be in the 2nd or 3rd.

I like the WR pick up he kind of jumped out at me when I was looking through the FAs. I still think TE will be a priority over spending a lot for a WR. I would prefer to go WR late in the draft and pick up less expensive WR in FA. Not to mention I think they stayed away from White early because he was struggling with the offense but kept him in because he is a willing blocker. It seems Hankersons injury and White and our rookie improving made Hankerson expendable. I think there are a couple of WRs that can be drafted late that would be fine plus maybe one FA that has some experience in the offense for insurance. One I really like and think will be a big steal this year is Keyarris Garrett.

I would also consider Tahir Whitehead as a FA LB. He seemed to put it together this year and if Detroit lets him walk he could be had for a fair price.

Really we have too many holes to fill in one off season but we should still be able to get better but I think it will be another year before we are going to be able to push deep in to the playoffs. Hopefully we are thinking long range now unlike we were a couple of years ago when they mortgaged the future for a shot at the superbowl.

Edited January 15, 2016 by Sobeit

[The O.D.B]

I think they will make it a priority. I do not think DT will be a priority early though I think they have 2 young guys that will be ok and I think Mbu may be a steal so I do not see it being that pressing. We may pick up some depth there depending on the plan for Solia but I do not think it will be in the 1st. Nassib I kind of like I really do not see him being a big drop off from a couple of others going in the 1st and I think the best value at DE may be in the 2nd or 3rd.

I like the WR pick up he kind of jumped out at me when I was looking through the FAs. I still think TE will be a priority over spending a lot for a WR. I would prefer to go WR late in the draft and pick up less expensive WR in FA. Not to mention I think they stayed away from White early because he was struggling with the offense but kept him in because he is a willing blocker. It seems Hankersons injury and White and our rookie improving made Hankerson expendable. I think there are a couple of WRs that can be drafted late that would be fine plus maybe one FA that has some experience in the offense for insurance. One I really like and think will be a big steal this year is Keyarris Garrett.

I would also consider Tahir Whitehead as a FA LB. He seemed to put it together this year and if Detroit lets him walk he could be had for a fair price.

Really we have too many holes to fill in one off season but we should still be able to get better but I think it will be another year before we are going to be able to push deep in to the playoffs. Hopefully we are thinking long range now unlike we were a couple of years ago when they mortgaged the future for a shot at the superbowl.

You make a really good point about our DTs though I still think another one that can get pressure would be a big plus.

I discovered Keyarris last year and was crazy about him. I though he was a small school JJ. However, this year I've looked at him again and I believe he's got a bad attitude, I'm actually inclined to think he's racist. I can't really find anything to support this but, if you watch his vids take note of how he gives the ball to the refs post play. I saw several plays where the refs are standing 2 yards away with their hands out like "throw me the ball", he looks directly at them and throws it away from them. I also noticed after a play he'll celebrate with a few players and then other players on the team run up to him and stop short, as if to ask if it's ok. Both the refs and the players where white. Now, I'll be the first to admit I'm very likely wrong but, something smells funny to me in regard to him. He should be ranked higher. He reminds me of DaRick Rodgers who went from a 2nd rounder to undrafted because scouts couldn't find one person that would give him a positive personal review.

[Sobeit]

You make a really good point about our DTs though I still think another one that can get pressure would be a big plus.

I discovered Keyarris last year and was crazy about him. I though he was a small school JJ. However, this year I've looked at him again and I believe he's got a bad attitude, I'm actually inclined to think he's racist. I can't really find anything to support this but, if you watch his vids take note of how he gives the ball to the refs post play. I saw several plays where the refs are standing 2 yards away with their hands out like "throw me the ball", he looks directly at them and throws it away from them. I also noticed after a play he'll celebrate with a few players and then other players on the team run up to him and stop short, as if to ask if it's ok. Both the refs and the players where white. Now, I'll be the first to admit I'm very likely wrong but, something smells funny to me in regard to him. He should be ranked higher. He reminds me of DaRick Rodgers who went from a 2nd rounder to undrafted because scouts couldn't find one person that would give him a positive personal review.

Interesting it could very well be the case that he has a bad attitude. We do not know everything but any way talent wise I think he will do pretty good in the NFL. From what I have seen some are saying 6th round I do agree based on talent I think he is higher than that, but he does not run a lot of routes and plays at a small school. So that could be keeping his draft status down as well. It will be interesting to see what happens to his stock after the combine.

[Draftnut57]

Remember, we only have 1,2,3,4,7 this year.

Yeah,, I know,, Real bummer ... But we need to hit on what we have and then we'll have more money for FAcy. i wouldn't doubt us trading down with one of our picks to get more, I'd say it will be the 4th rd pick we trade down with.

[Draftnut57]

No objections from me taking a WR in the first. I just don't believe I like the idea of cutting Roddy until we know we have another that can contribute near his level.

Well, normally I agree, But just like when we got JJ,, I loved that pick.. and if we get another bigtime WR, It would do wonders for this team,, open up the field for JJ and if he's covered we would have another star at WR. I mean, how can they cover both and Freeman also.

[kiwifalcon]

I gotta admit, LB was the toughest for me. Many would cut Wor, Dur, and some of the others but, who do you replace them with? A guy from the draft...Well he's going to have a learning curve. A new guy from another team....he's going to cost a lot and may not translate well. Overall our LBs have the talent but, just need to cover better IMO. many people are counting Wor out but, with his work ethic I wouldn't be surprised to see him much improved in his second year. Dur Is solid overall but, he's also under contract. With all of these things in my head I decided to tweak what we have just a pinch to help them in coverage. It's a gamble but it's either a tweak or a house cleaning and I think our guys will be better this year.

TBH with you LBer and defense is better to go to the draft because of the simplyfied scheme.

I'd look to add urgent athletes.

Offense needs to be the target in FA because the scheme is more complicated and vets would more quickly adjust.

[The O.D.B]

TBH with you LBer and defense is better to go to the draft because of the simplyfied scheme.

I'd look to add urgent athletes.

Offense needs to be the target in FA because the scheme is more complicated and vets would more quickly adjust.

Very sound thoughts on approaching new talent. I do think that in our scheme the LBs and S are asked to do more and need to be high IQ players as well as sudden athletes.