After Watching The Seahawks Earlier Today, I Have To Ask

[Flying Falcon]

Was Quinn the real reason for their defensive success? The commentator hit on it during the game. He said that the previous defensive coordinator (before Quinn) took a HC gig with another team. And that left Quinn to be promoted to DC. Then Quinn took the Falcons HC gig and that left Kris Richard. And their defense is STILL boss.

Well, that leaves me to believe that Quinn didn't have much to do with their defensive success as most believe. Maybe it IS Carroll that orchestrates it along with finding the talent to fit. Maybe Quinn was a puppet like Kris Richard.

[Francis York Morgan]

Did you not watch our defense at all this year? Lol.

They've already improved drastically, no thanks to our sputtering, turnover prone offense, led by its equally turnover prone QB and Center.

Of course Carroll is the main reason for their success, but they actually regressed a bit this year. Quinn is a brilliant mind in his own right.

[Flying Falcon]

Did you not watch our defense at all this year? Lol.

They've already improved drastically, no thanks to our sputtering, turnover prone offense, led by its equally turnover prone QB and Center.

Of course Carroll is the main reason for their success, but they actually regressed this year. Quinn is a brilliant mind in his own right.

Dude, our defense could have played "dead" this year and improved from the last two years. That wasn't hard to do. They STILL misses tackles, takes bad angles, over pursues, etc.... Let's just see what talent Quinn brings in, but after seeing him sign Brooks Reed and Jalen Collins, I have to be honest (like Future). I'm a bit worried.

[Califalcon0013]

Dude, our defense could have played "dead" this year and improved from the last two years. That wasn't hard to do. They STILL misses tackles, takes bad angles, over pursues, etc.... Let's just see what talent Quinn brings in, but after seeing him sign Brooks Reed and Jalen Collins, I have to be honest (like Future). I'm a bit worried.

You have ****** taste in music and no.quinn actually got more out of this team than smith. with smiths shiffy players another year to get rid of them and bring in new better talent

[Shnikies]

We went from the 32nd ranked defense to 16th. With the players on this defense and still without a pass rush I'd say that's a **** good job.

Edited January 11, 2016 by Shnikies

[PriMeTiiMe]

Was Quinn the real reason for their defensive success? The commentator hit on it during the game. He said that the previous defensive coordinator (before Quinn) took a HC gig with another team. And that left Quinn to be promoted to DC. Then Quinn took the Falcons HC gig and that left Kris Richard. And their defense is STILL boss.

Well, that leaves me to believe that Quinn didn't have much to do with their defensive success as most believe. Maybe it IS Carroll that orchestrates it along with finding the talent to fit. Maybe Quinn was a puppet like Kris Richard.

Technically speaking the Seahawks Defense did take a hit but that defense is so stacked that even taking a slight hit they still are tops in most categories lol.

This year:

291.8 YPG allowed

210.3 Pass YPG allowed

81.5 Rush YPG allowed

17.3 PPG allowed

Last Year:

267.1 YPG allowed

185.6 Pass YPG allowed

81.5 Rush YPG allowed

15.9 PPG allowed

So they allowed 24.7 more total yards/pass yards, the same amount of rush yards and 1.4 more points a game. But like I said if were getting techincal here that is a slight hit lmao.

What's far more impressive is how insane all of our stats went up from last year to this year. We jumped to middle of the pack in Total yards, pass yards, rush yards and points allowed where the last 2 seasons we have been bottom 5 in every category.

Edited January 11, 2016 by PriMeTiiMe

[Mid-Nite-Toker]

They've already improved drastically, no thanks to our sputtering, turnover prone offense, led by its equally turnover prone QB and Center.

+1

Game, Set, and Match to Mr. Falcan Moore.

[Smiler11]

Did you not watch our defense at all this year? Lol.

They've already improved drastically, no thanks to our sputtering, turnover prone offense, led by its equally turnover prone QB and Center.

Of course Carroll is the main reason for their success, but they actually regressed this year. Quinn is a brilliant mind in his own right.

Very true, it's nice to see a defensive minded head coach actually improve the defense.

We still need some pieces, to play the defense that DQ wants like athletic sideline to sideline LB's like Bobby Wagner, KJ Wright, Bruce Irvin etc. The true star of that Seahawks defense though is Michael Bennett he just makes everything happen.

[Mid-Nite-Toker]

Very true, it's nice to see a defensive minded head coach actually improve the defense.

We still need some pieces, to play the defense that DQ wants like athletic sideline to sideline LB's like Bobby Wagner, KJ Wright, Bruce Irvin etc. The true star of that Seahawks defense though is Michael Bennett he just makes everything happen.

The missing pieces...for real.

[capologist]

Very true, it's nice to see a defensive minded head coach actually improve the defense.

We still need some pieces, to play the defense that DQ wants like athletic sideline to sideline LB's like Bobby Wagner, KJ Wright, Bruce Irvin etc. The true star of that Seahawks defense though is Michael Bennett he just makes everything happen.

Exactly and we definitely don't have a Bennett yet...

[Mid-Nite-Toker]

After Watching The Seahawks Earlier Today, I Have To Ask

MR was a big disappointment this year.

Minn vs Sea was a struggle vs Game managers...MR wasn't even that this year.

[Flying Falcon]

Technically speaking the Seahawks Defense did take a hit but that defense is so stacked that even taking a slight hit they still are tops in most categories lol.

This year:

291.8 YPG allowed

210.3 Pass YPG allowed

81.5 Rush YPG allowed

17.3 PPG allowed

Last Year:

267.1 YPG allowed

185.6 Pass YPG allowed

81.5 Rush YPG allowed

15.9 PPG allowed

So they allowed 24.7 more total yards/pass yards, the same amount of rush yards and 1.4 more points a game. But like I said if were getting techincal here that is a slight hit lmao.

What's far more impressive is how insane all of our stats went up from last year to this year. We jumped to middle of the pack in Total yards, pass yards, rush yards and points allowed where the last 2 seasons we have been bottom 5 in every category.

Yeah, but I saw yesterday that the commentators showed that they were still #1 in those areas like PPG allowed and other areas too.

[PHALCONABERNATHY]

I said in a different thread maybe not having but 5 draft picks is a good thing. We dip into free agency and try to get some help on d and o line depending on who's out there. That being said, you can't just say well Quinn sucks and isn't going to do anything because you could've coached the Seahawks defense. Quinn is a great defensive coach and whether you want to say it or not, he did improve the defense. The front seven is what needs to be fixed. We all know it and they do too. Give the man at least a season to work it out. If you want to blame someone, blame Shanahan and the offense for keeping them on the field for 3 full quarters a game.

Edited January 11, 2016 by PHALCONABERNATHY

[Flying Falcon]

Here are their yearly stats starting at 2010 when Carroll got there:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sea/2010.htm(Gus Bradley) (ranked 25th on defense)

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sea/2011.htm(Gus Bradley) (ranked 7th on defense)

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sea/2012.htm(Gus Bradley) (ranked 1st on defense)

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sea/2013.htm(Dan Quinn) (ranked 1st on defense)

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sea/2014.htm(Dan Quinn) (ranked 1st on defense)

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sea/2015.htm(Kris Richard) (ranked 1st on defense)

You make the call. Looks like Carroll may have improved the defense. Either him or Bradley and the others kept it going after Bradley left. Like I said, Quinn wasn't the reason for their defense improving.

[etherdome]

Flying Falcon, Pete Carroll is the architect of their defense. The DC's under him learned and moved on. We got one of those guys and he seems to have already positively impacted our defense.

Quinn has learned under Saban and Carroll. He moved up the ranks the old-fasioned way, he earned it.

Quinn deserved a shot at a HC job and I am glad he is here.

[Flying Falcon]

Flying Falcon, Pete Carroll is the architect of their defense. The DC's under him learned and moved on. We got one of those guys and he seems to have already positively impacted our defense.Quinn has learned under Saban and Carroll. He moved up the ranks the old-fasioned way, he earned it.Quinn deserved a shot at a HC job and I am glad he is here.

Thank you. I can understand this. Some people on here made it seem like Quinn was the architect of their defense getting better or improving when it was either Bradley or Carroll. Thanks.

[Mid-Nite-Toker]

Flying Falcon, Pete Carroll is the architect of their defense. The DC's under him learned and moved on. We got one of those guys and he seems to have already positively impacted our defense.

Quinn has learned under Saban and Carroll. He moved up the ranks the old-fasioned way, he earned it.

Quinn deserved a shot at a HC job and I am glad he is here.

Too bad Quinn didn't inherent a better QB...real talk.

[Mr.11]

We went from the 32nd ranked defense to 16th. With the players on this defense and still without a pass rush I'd say that's a **** good job.

Jumped 16 spots to a middling defense with much of the same personnel, but Quinn is a product of Seattle's talent...smh

This guy just continues to obsess over our current coaching staff for no good reason. If it's not Kyle, it's Quinn.

Who's next? The RB coach because of Coleman's fumbles?

[andrews31cain21]

Did you not watch our defense at all this year? Lol.

They've already improved drastically, no thanks to our sputtering, turnover prone offense, led by its equally turnover prone QB and Center.

Of course Carroll is the main reason for their success, but they actually regressed this year. Quinn is a brilliant mind in his own right.

He also blew up our top 12 Offense and helped turn them into a sputteri,g turnover prone offense

[INDFalcon]

Did you not watch our defense at all this year? Lol.

They've already improved drastically, no thanks to our sputtering, turnover prone offense, led by its equally turnover prone QB and Center.

Of course Carroll is the main reason for their success, but they actually regressed this year. Quinn is a brilliant mind in his own right.

No Seattle Defense did not regress. They have given about 25 more yards than they did last year. Their run D is same this year as well. They have given up on an average about 2 points more than last year. That is not in any stretch a regress. They have more or less stayed the same. I don't think Quinn was a major factor in their D. But I do agree, Quinn with the same players on Falcon's have improved. But it might also be due the fact that we had a very weak schedule.

[ZoneOne01]

Very true, it's nice to see a defensive minded head coach actually improve the defense.

We still need some pieces, to play the defense that DQ wants like athletic sideline to sideline LB's like Bobby Wagner, KJ Wright, Bruce Irvin etc. The true star of that Seahawks defense though is Michael Bennett he just makes everything happen.

Exactly. Having faster LB's and better pass rushers should be the goal going forward.

[rcky_mtn_falcon]

Dude, our defense could have played "dead" this year and improved from the last two years. That wasn't hard to do. They STILL misses tackles, takes bad angles, over pursues, etc.... Let's just see what talent Quinn brings in, but after seeing him sign Brooks Reed and Jalen Collins, I have to be honest (like Future). I'm a bit worried.

You do realize it took 4 years for the Seattle defense to become dominant.

Carroll's first 2 years in Seattle they went 7-9 each year. In his third year they went 11 - 5 and lost to us in the playoffs. 4th year is when they finally broke through and won the Super Bowl. Coincidentally that was Quinn's first year as DC, his 2nd year as DC they lost on the final play of the SB.

It took time to purge the roster and bring in the players needed to run their scheme. Check the defensive stats for the 3 years before Dan Quinn and the 1 year after and you will find that Quinn's 2 years as DC were far superior.

[Club212]

Last year we run a 1 LB defense, not hard to improve from that, the proof will be in the pudding as looking at next years schedule...we're staring down a 5-7 game win season, can't wait for the excuses...I give Quinn 2 more years here...its not all on him, its TD & the owner that listens to the wrong people! We're like the NFC Clevelanders

[montanaman71]

I am not jumping on the defense has greatly improved train just yet. The falcons were fortunate enough to play some pretty bad qbs/teams this year. The eye test shows they are better but not leaps in bounds better. I do believe with some more talent Quinn can turn it around though.

[Mid-Nite-Toker]

I am not jumping on the defense has greatly improved train just yet. The falcons were fortunate enough to play some pretty bad qbs/teams this year. The eye test shows they are better but not leaps in bounds better. I do believe with some more talent Quinn can turn it around though.

Bruh!!!!!!

I can't understand any sympathy towards MR right now.