Bullpup969 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Okay, I will start this out. I like Shannahan and the system he brought here. People say, that it goes against Ryans talents, but I feel that Ryan did a good job with the system, he just made some bad decisions. I think Ryan can run this offense at a high level. It takes a while to grasp a new system and play fast. I think Ryan is more than mobile enough and did a good job throwing on roll outs. No question our run game improved. I know he got a little off balance at times, and i do fault him for that, but so did Koetter. I say give him one more year to fill in a few holes and we will have a great offense. But we really need a better back up QB incase Ryan gets hurt. Just my opinion, feel free to flame away, you will not hurt my feelings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAD597 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Stubborn, tied to the system and can't adjust, not a real offensive mind just a system guy who is only in the nfl because of his dad. Has never had long term success in the nfl, leaves a wake of broken qbs behind him. Never stays anywhere to long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Dog Named Brian Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 All I want for Christmas is a Pinned Mass TD/Shanahan Thread....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
middlegatv Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 2 words:1 - He2 - Sux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Loved the option play with a non running qb. Great system. Thank god we cut our best rg and center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javader09 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Stubborn, tied to the system and can't adjust, not a real offensive mind just a system guy who is only in the nfl because of his dad. Has never had long term success in the nfl, leaves a wake of broken qbs behind him. Never stays anywhere to long.spot on assessment.Maybe Daddy get a job and his mama comes and get him from summer camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capologist Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I'd just be happy if his name could be spelled right... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capologist Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Stubborn, tied to the system and can't adjust, not a real offensive mind just a system guy who is only in the nfl because of his dad. Has never had long term success in the nfl, leaves a wake of broken qbs behind him. Never stays anywhere to long.Except he basically built an entirely different system that made RG3 ROY. Now let's look at the QB's he's had to work with: Washed up McNabb, Hoyer who he made look competent in his system. Where is this wake of broken QB's that was "fixed" to begin with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Except he basically built an entirely different system that made RG3 ROY. Now let's look at the QB's he's had to work with: Washed up McNabb, Hoyer who he made look competent in his system. Where is this wake of broken QB's that was "fixed" to begin with?You could argue that, part of his problem with Matt is the fact that Matt is already good and in his prime.I think He maybe tried to cover up too much like he had to do with the others.I think some of us ( myself included) may have been a little unfair to him......a lot of our issues were not his fault at all. ( Said the same thing about Koetter)Hopefully he stays and he continues to morph his offense to fit Ryan and Ryan can morph his game to fit the offense..... The times where we held on to the ball and had everyone on the same page where we looked **** near unstoppable...... we need more of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capologist Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 You could argue that, part of his problem with Matt is the fact that Matt is already good and in his prime.I think He maybe tried to cover up too much like he had to do with the others.I think some of us ( myself included) may have been a little unfair to him......a lot of our issues were not his fault at all. ( Said the same thing about Koetter)Hopefully he stays and he continues to morph his offense to fit Ryan and Ryan can morph his game to fit the offense..... The times where we held on to the ball and had everyone on the same page where we looked **** near unstoppable...... we need more of that.Honestly the only problem we really had with Ryan was the turnovers. I do believe that can be just a product of a new system. We held on to the ball for a long time7th in ypg, #1 in TOP, #2 in 3rd % (1% behind the Saints), #13 in 4th down %. It's clear that the problem and only problem with the offense was the turnovers. Those stats simply don't lie... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PermaGrin Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I don't like to make snap decisions based on a limited sampling. Pretty much every person on this board thought Free was Quiz Jr. after last season. Honestly, EVERY person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Tzu 7 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I guess we'll find out all we need to know next season and it's going to depend on Ryan's play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla1985 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I was wanting him FIRED a few weeks ago bit KOGs post have convinced me to be patient with him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerSteve Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I was one of those who was genuinely pleased to learn we were getting KS as our OC. For a long time I'd wanted the Falcons to bring in some younger, brighter, more cutting-edge people at HC and the coordinator positions, and Shanahan's WCO has gotten results, even if his personality hasn't always been a selling point.After this season, I'm not nearly as enthusiastic about Shanahan or his scheme. It seems odd that a system could be extremely hard for the offense to learn, yet extremely easy for defenses to learn and basically shut it completely down. I was encouraged there seemed to be some adjustments in the scheme which allowed Matt to go downfield with the ball rather than dink and dunk every play that wasn't a run the last couple of games, especially the great win vs the Panties. I have to agree with those who feel it would be counter-productive to change OC's after one year. By the start of regular season 2016, this team will have upgraded the OL and Matt Ryan will have a much higher comfort level to execute the scheme in both knowledge and improved protection. But, if things aren't significantly better after next season, especially if Ryan is still struggling, I think a change at OC would have to be seriously considered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdogg Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 A lot....a whole lot will be riding on this working. But no matter what, we have got to add true talent to the OL. No more scrubs a week before the season begins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDaveG Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Scapegoat de l'annee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdogg Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I was one of those who was genuinely pleased to learn we were getting KS as our OC. For a long time I'd wanted the Falcons to bring in some younger, brighter, more cutting-edge people at HC and the coordinator positions, and Shanahan's WCO has gotten results, even if his personality hasn't always been a selling point.After this season, I'm not nearly as enthusiastic about Shanahan or his scheme. It seems odd that a system could be extremely hard for the offense to learn, yet extremely easy for defenses to learn and basically shut it completely down. I was encouraged there seemed to be some adjustments in the scheme which allowed Matt to go downfield with the ball rather than dink and dunk every play that wasn't a run the last couple of games, especially the great win vs the Panties. I have to agree with those who feel it would be counter-productive to change OC's after one year. By the start of regular season 2016, this team will have upgraded the OL and Matt Ryan will have a much higher comfort level to execute the scheme in both knowledge and improved protection. But, if things aren't significantly better after next season, especially if Ryan is still struggling, I think a change at OC would have to be seriously considered.No doubt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Falcon Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 He SUCKS!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Falcon Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Except he basically built an entirely different system that made RG3 ROY. Now let's look at the QB's he's had to work with: Washed up McNabb, Hoyer who he made look competent in his system. Where is this wake of broken QB's that was "fixed" to begin with?.Dude, how long ago was that? Y'all STILL holding unto that for all these years? SMH!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 There are exceptions, but most of the people bashing Shanny super heavily after one season are...eh, not the best posters. I'm more inclined to say it was Ryan who was struggling. I haven't had confidence in Ryan to lead his team to any sort of promised land for a while. And people can talk all they want about Ryan not being *that* bad, but I honestly think QBs like Alex Smith could have career years in an offense like this. Still not giving up on Ryan, and he could turn it around with an awesome season next year, get back to that fringe top 10 QB play, but after our Center and LB play, he was the biggest reason we lost so many games this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 He SUCKS!!!!Much like every single thing you've ever posted child. Isn't Christmas break over yet? You should be in bed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robb4242 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Except he basically built an entirely different system that made RG3 ROY. Now let's look at the QB's he's had to work with: Washed up McNabb, Hoyer who he made look competent in his system. Where is this wake of broken QB's that was "fixed" to begin with?And then F'd up RG III so bad that he was benched for Kurt Cousins and will probably never recover to be a regular starter in the NFL again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return of the Gaucho Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Honestly, no idea. Could go either way. Maybe another year in the system, which is notoriously difficult at first, will yield good results. At the same time, he seems stubborn and his play calling is predictable at times. Many defensive players commented on knowing what was coming. Perhaps next season they can install more, but I'm totally at a loss as to what to expect in 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 And then F'd up RG III so bad that he was benched for Kurt Cousins and will probably never recover to be a regular starter in the NFL again.Shanny personally tore his acls with his teeth and then rushed him back out early right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Shanny personally tore his acls with his teeth and then rushed him back out early right?yeah people who blame Shanahan for rg3's Issues are blaming the wrong one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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