Reeballin4 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Unrestricted free agent this year would be perfect Safety next to Allen and would allow us to use Ishmael in the box when using 3 safety looks instead of being used deep in coverage. Their fan base showed him a lot of support when he was out but the only place I think he would probably leave KC for is back home in Atlanta. Eric Berry and Bruce Irvin would be immediate upgrades to our defense. Thoughts please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyhateme : ) Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Because the lines need fixin' first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaRdH3ad Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Bro I went to school went the guy I hope we get him, highest graded pff this year after cancer, that being said that franchise tag will probably prevent him from being here. No doubt he woul be a play maker in this defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I am. I had him in my first mock in NFLDraft&FA. Charles Johnson (if/when cut), Bruce Irvin, and Eric Berry would be my dream haul for defensive FA. This would of course be assuming that we cut ties with Moore, and probably Jackson (through post June 1 cut).Bonus: They're all GA natives.The key here is if he can even reach FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 You'd have to pay Berry which isn't a bad thing I really DQ's defense operates at a higher clip with a true centre fielder back there.If your happy with Gradkowski at C and bring in alessexpensive option or draft another guy along with a mid tiered G I'd pull the trigger it means the 1st 2 picks in the raft are DE MLBer which also are really key for the DQ defense to be at its best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDaveG Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 KOG mentioned him as a FA he'd like to see brought in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoFalconsFan56 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 He's gonna be expensive so that takes money away from d-line which is what any ball hawk needs to be great. Rush the passer so the qb makes bone headed decisions and when he does your top tier secondary players capitalize. I like him but I think acquiring him would be the opposite of what we need to be doing. It all starts up front, that's not just a saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-TowN.- Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Love Eric Berry, but I'm not so sure he will be able to hit FA. If he does, we should take him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 He's gonna be expensive so that takes money away from d-line which is what any ball hawk needs to be great. Rush the passer so the qb makes bone headed decisions and when he does your top tier secondary players capitalize. I like him but I think acquiring him would be the opposite of what we need to be doing. It all starts up front, that's not just a sayingI really think that our DL is actually pretty good. Beasely needs to keep developing obviously, but the only key thing that it's missing is that above average run defender, who can also get you sacks on the other side from Beasely, the "big end." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDaveG Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Because the lines need fixin' first.There's no "first" really. We need help at OC, OG, WR, DE, DT, LB (x2 at least), and S. We could use depth at corner unless they feel really confident Collins will improve in the offseason. We could stand to upgrade TE too, at least by adding a quality blocking TE.So if we get a S in FA, that's 1 less position we need to look for in the draft. If we get a C too, that's another. Frankly, I'd prefer to see us get LB, C and S addressed in FA so we can open up the draft, because I'd rather have to choose between the best DE, DT, WR, LB and OG at any given pick than to have that many more, and if we don't address LB in FA at least, we have failed to draft the most pressing position of need on the entire team behind C, and we only need one C and we need 2 LB. So I'd rather make real sure those two are covered in FA, because we can't afford to go into next season without them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanForLife Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Love Berry, but that is exactly the problem here in Atlanta. We don't focus on the trenches FIRST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rise Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Unrestricted free agent this year would be perfect Safety next to Allen and would allow us to use Ishmael in the box when using 3 safety looks instead of being used deep in coverage. Their fan base showed him a lot of support when he was out but the only place I think he would probably leave KC for is back home in Atlanta. Eric Berry and Bruce Irvin would be immediate upgrades to our defense. Thoughts pleaseWhat anyone says here doesn't really matter unless is a "Group-Think" Response to Mr. Blank...Quinn could be considering him,,,as SS and FS coverage of TE was a weakness of The Falcons. Ishmael did well of himself some...They may address FS, but that he must be able to tackle.Still believe that Therezie and Allen will compete with a mid-round pick... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 There's no "first" really. We need help at OC, OG, WR, DE, DT, LB (x2 at least), and S. We could use depth at corner unless they feel really confident Collins will improve in the offseason. We could stand to upgrade TE too, at least by adding a quality blocking TE.So if we get a S in FA, that's 1 less position we need to look for in the draft. If we get a C too, that's another. Frankly, I'd prefer to see us get LB, C and S addressed in FA so we can open up the draft, because I'd rather have to choose between the best DE, DT, WR, LB and OG at any given pick than to have that many more, and if we don't address LB in FA at least, we have failed to draft the most pressing position of need on the entire team behind C, and we only need one C and we need 2 LB. So I'd rather make real sure those two are covered in FA, because we can't afford to go into next season without them. The weird thing about center is that we don't really need a top center, we just need a good blocker who can also consistently call protections and snap the ball, and as much as I know people don't want to hear this, that could still be Person, with a whole offseason to learn the position. We might bring in highly rated FA center, we might not. We could very well just bring in someone that can be OK, let him compete with Person, and maybe Gradkowski, and then add a good FA OG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 What anyone says here doesn't really matter unless is a "Group-Think" Response to Mr. Blank...Quinn could be considering him,,,as SS and FS coverage of TE was a weakness of The Falcons. Ishmael did well of himself some...They may address FS, but that he must be able to tackle.Still believe that Therezie and Allen will compete with a mid-round pick...In this system, Berry could probably do both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rise Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I really think that our DL is actually pretty good. Beasely needs to keep developing obviously, but the only key thing that it's missing is that above average run defender, who can also get you sacks on the other side from Beasely, the "big end."Soliai was that run-defender.. When he was hurt, they stunk stomping the run...They have to draft his replacement for the future.. The Falcons need another pass-rusher to help Beasley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlfanstckndenver Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) He has definitely been mentioned. I'm interested to see what kc does with him. They just payed Ron Parker And have Abdullah as well. I hope they let him walk, he's unreal when it comes to playing safety. Edited January 7, 2016 by Atlfanstckndenver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezekiel 25:17 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 You'd have to pay Berry which isn't a bad thing I really DQ's defense operates at a higher clip with a true centre fielder back there.If your happy with Gradkowski at C and bring in alessexpensive option or draft another guy along with a mid tiered G I'd pull the trigger it means the 1st 2 picks in the raft are DE MLBer which also are really key for the DQ defense to be at its best.Uh.... Could you translate all of that to English?? I feel there are some good points in this Message! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezekiel 25:17 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) I really think that our DL is actually pretty good. Beasely needs to keep developing obviously, but the only key thing that it's missing is that above average run defender, who can also get you sacks on the other side from Beasely, the "big end."Wha.....??? Pretty good??? Last in Sacks??? Is this an Alternate universe?? Is this my Ice Cream???? Will it hurt if I stick my hand in this fire???? Edited January 7, 2016 by Ezekiel 25:17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Wha.....??? Pretty good??? Last in Sacks??? Is this an Alternate universe?? Is this my Ice Cream???? Will it hurt if I stick my hand in this fire????Apparently you didn't read the rest.We're close. We need a piece or two, and for Beasely to develop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 That cancer thing can pop back up at any time and then he's done again. It's ruthless to say, but its true. Youre going to have to give him a Byrd type contract as well Spend a few mil more and get wilkerson to help beasley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I thought there was a commitment to build through the draft. Would we sign so many big name FA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyhateme : ) Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I thought there was a commitment to build through the draft. Would we sign so many big name FA?Seems like they always end up doing what the media and the fans suggest. Its so sickening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezekiel 25:17 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) Apparently you didn't read the rest.We're close. We need a piece or two, and for Beasely to develop. Naw.... I read it... You said the line was "pretty good" and I was referring to that portion of the comment. I too agree it is an "improved" line and maybe a piece or two will help as the line was "Adequate" at best and had moments. It was not a "Bad" line at all.But in no way could this years D Line be considered Pretty good. I believe that is WILL be however! Edited January 7, 2016 by Ezekiel 25:17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I would like berry but I think they will franchise tag him .... I also think we need to focus our money on improving both lines... Also this draft has some good SS prospects we can aim for in the 2nd or 3rd round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4dabirds Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 The weird thing about center is that we don't really need a top center, we just need a good blocker who can also consistently call protections and snap the ball, and as much as I know people don't want to hear this, that could still be Person, with a whole offseason to learn the position. We might bring in highly rated FA center, we might not. We could very well just bring in someone that can be OK, let him compete with Person, and maybe Gradkowski, and then add a good FA OG.I have to agree with you on this. I kind of think that Quinn will look to bring in a lot of guys to compete for the position of center. Heck, there could be a center playing in the CFL that could do the job well enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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