etherdome Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 (edited) Before we plan to fill needs, it is important for us to understand exactly what we already have so that we can identify our true needs. Quinn has installed a new defensive scheme and you can bet that there will continue to be a big turnover in personnel this off season. As I scour these boards, I am picking up very disparate ideas of what our pass rush should look like. For that reason, I'd like to discuss our present personnel and try to understand exactly what sort of player we need to move forward. To start things off, I'd like to focus on our rookie first-round pick. Vic Beasley should be considered a building block for the new defense. He has impressed me with his quickness and his ability to pressure the QB. HIs sack totals are not impressive, but you can already see that he has the goods to get the job done. Like Mack, the year before, VB had an introductory rookie season and should get much better next year. It is just a matter of time for him to become one of the league's top QB hunters. The question I have is where should he play? Some people talk of moving him to SLB, others believe that he should be moved to LDE permanently and others feel that he is a LEO. I liked what I saw of him at the LEO position, but I am concerned about his lingering shoulder ailment. I don't recall a consistently successful DE with shoulder issues. Swim and swipe moves create quick and strong stresses to the shoulder joint. Should we ask VB to stress his shoulder play after play? I am beginning to wonder whether VB should be moved to SLB, where he will be able to fire of the ball and choose the best route to the QB. In Quinn's system the SLB has pass rush responsibilities. Bruce Irvin owes a lot of his success to Quinn's system and I think that VB is a very similar player. I imagine that he would rely less on his shoulder at SLB than any position along the LOS. What say you? Edited January 3, 2016 by etherdome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-TowN.- Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I think it's a bad idea to put Vic in a spot where he doesn't utilize his elite first step and quickness off of the snap. He can move nicely in open space, but I would much rather him be an everydown defensive end. I can see him switching between the left and right side, but either way he needs to be on the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Let VB develop don't push the panic blow up button to soon.On the pass rush side of things we are in an ideal spot to put someone proven on the other side this off season.I think this goes along way to fixing what we all crave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherdome Posted January 3, 2016 Author Share Posted January 3, 2016 OK, he is doing well at DE,but will his shoulder hold up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quest Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Clayborn,Beasley,Babs,Jarrett,Hageman,Schofield,Irvin,Nnkemdiche. That's what our pass rush should look like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 OK, he is doing well at DE,but will his shoulder hold up?Yes.Another off season decent rehab and to me this isn't an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momak Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Clayborn,Beasley,Babs,Jarrett,Hageman,Schofield,Irvin,Nnkemdiche. That's what our pass rush should look likeIt would be great to have some real talent on Dline again.The only other player i would is Cameron Wake on a short contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 OK, he is doing well at DE,but will his shoulder hold up?Why? What reason is there to think that it won't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherdome Posted January 5, 2016 Author Share Posted January 5, 2016 Why? What reason is there to think that it won't? I heard that he had a recurrent shoulder problem and that he played through it all season. DE's swat, push and swing their arms probably more than any other players. So, I ask again, can we count on his shoulder holding up for the long haul at DE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I heard that he had a recurrent shoulder problem and that he played through it all season. DE's swat, push and swing their arms probably more than any other players. So, I ask again, can we count on his shoulder holding up for the long haul at DE?Players play through minor injuries all the time. They heal.Why would we think that he wouldn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_The Iceman_Ryan Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 LEO: Beasley / Chris Clemons (JAX cut, FA)DT: Hageman / TJax / MbuDT: Jarrett / Kevin Williams (FA) / BabsDE: Emmanuel Ogbah (1st) / Clayborn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris2010 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 LEO: Beasley / Chris Clemons (JAX cut, FA)DT: Hageman / TJax / MbuDT: Jarrett / Kevin Williams (FA) / BabsDE: Emmanuel Ogbah (1st) / ClaybornI have really started to like the idea of drafting Ogbah in the 1st. That front line would wreck havoc for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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