MoFalconsFan56 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 ChildWahhhIf they don't do what I want, then they're not commited to winning. Sign Williams to fix the glaring problem. Sign the best de possible. Prove to me you truly want to compete by making excellent off season moves.Not just because I want Williams but because it's the best move for the franchise. I'm done arguing w your weak ***. If you disagree so be it. I've stooped down to your level enough for one day. You have a great new year tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby.Digital Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 One of Williams, Johnson, Vernon, or Curry needs to be a Falcon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Sign Williams to fix the glaring problem. Sign the best de possible. Prove to me you truly want to compete by making excellent off season moves.Not just because I want Williams but because it's the best move for the franchise.I'm done arguing w your weak ***. If you disagree so be it. I've stooped down to your level enough for one day. You have a great new year thoThere will never be a time where the statement If they don't do X, then they don't care about winningwon't be stupid.It is, has been, and always will be an infantile, idiotic, post. Oh, and Great year to you too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-TowN.- Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Sign Williams to fix the glaring problem. Sign the best de possible. Prove to me you truly want to compete by making excellent off season moves.Not just because I want Williams but because it's the best move for the franchise. I'm done arguing w your weak ***. If you disagree so be it. I've stooped down to your level enough for one day. You have a great new year thoI'd rather sign the better player, not the guy who's name is more recognizable. That's Mario at this point, just a name that posters can refer to because he used to be elite. He has been far from elite this year, trust me. Would be a huge mistake to spend a ton him when we could get a more productive Olivier Vernon or Charles Johnson. Even Curry would be a better use of our cap space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-train Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Just to clarify for some people, we're not looking for a #1 pass rusher here. That will be Beasely. We're looking for a guy to fill that big end role, who can play good to great run defense, while also getting to the QB 8+ times a year.Sounds like a role perfect for Vinny Curry.Curry was a really good pass rusher at Marshall, getting double-digit sack totals in each of his final 2 seasons there.When he went to Philly, they really didn't know what to do with him. They already had 4-3 DEs they were committed to in Trent Cole, Brandon Graham, and Darryl Tapp. Curry didn't get much playing time as a rookie as he was buried on the depth chart.In his sophomore season with the Eagles, they switched to a 3-4. He was made to gain a bunch of weight in order to fill the role of a 3-4 DE. He was only in on 26% of the snaps, was playing in an unfamiliar scheme & was carrying an extra 15-20lbs, yet he still notched 4 sacks, 18 tackles, and 2 PDs.In his 3rd season, he was still playing DE at 15-20 lbs more than normal in a 3-4. He only played 32% of the snaps that year, yet he notched 9 sacks, 17 tackles, 4 forced fumbles, and 1 fumble recovery.This year, they tried to move Curry to OLB in the 3-4... another unfamiliar position... rather than leaving him at DE where he had success the year before. The smart thing to do would've been to leave him at DE & give him more snaps, but it's just one of the many boneheaded moves the Eagles made this year trying to get cute, tweaking things that didn't need tweaking. So, while again having to learn a new position & only being in for 33% of the snaps, Curry has seen his production suffer... 8 tackles & 3.5 sacks.If allowed to play in his natural role... a 4-3 DE... and given a real share of snaps, I have no doubt that Curry can flourish. We could probably get him AND Irvin for what it would cost to get Williams or Vernon alone.Beasley & Curry at DE with Irvin at SLB sounds really, really nice to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby.Digital Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 (edited) I'd rather sign the better player, not the guy who's name is more recognizable. That's Mario at this point, just a name that posters can refer to because he used to be elite. He has been far from elite this year, trust me. Would be a huge mistake to spend a ton him when we could get a more productive Olivier Vernon or Charles Johnson. Even Curry would be a better use of our cap space.Read this thread. Sounds like he just isn't a fit as a OLB in a 3-4. Most Bills fans still think he is a stud in a 4-3. http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=573256The whole defense as a whole is struggling so I wouldn't look to much into this year. Edited December 31, 2015 by Bobby.Digital Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlfanstckndenver Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 10 mil a year for him is too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoneOne01 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 We're dead last in sacks. I'd take anybody at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I'd rather sign the better player, not the guy who's name is more recognizable. That's Mario at this point, just a name that posters can refer to because he used to be elite. He has been far from elite this year, trust me. Would be a huge mistake to spend a ton him when we could get a more productive Olivier Vernon or Charles Johnson. Even Curry would be a better use of our cap space.Curry isn't even close to being the player Mario is. Your first sentence you talk about signing the better player. Curry definitely isn't that. Olivier is better than all of them. But he will cost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 she cute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoFalconsFan56 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I'd rather sign the better player, not the guy who's name is more recognizable. That's Mario at this point, just a name that posters can refer to because he used to be elite. He has been far from elite this year, trust me. Would be a huge mistake to spend a ton him when we could get a more productive Olivier Vernon or Charles Johnson. Even Curry would be a better use of our cap space.You may be right. Time will tell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRUNKuno Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Williams has never really played all too well in a 34. Rex Ryan is 34.Dan Quinn is 43.If Mario Williams went to Seattle, people would be talking about how great of a move it is and how he'd fit well in that scheme. The Quinn scheme is meant for an attacking front 4. That's kinda what Mario Williams does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoFalconsFan56 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 There will never be a time where the statement If they don't do X, then they don't care about winningwon't be stupid.It is, has been, and always will be an infantile, idiotic, post. Oh, and Great year to you too. you mad? Your self esteem seems low Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEHEADCOACH Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I'm typically against giant FA acquisitions but if Mario Williams falls into our laps pull the ******* triggerHalf of you slam TD for signing guys like Ray Edwards and then the other half says he can't draft a DL worth a $hit so wouldn't it be most productive to sign Mario?I mean what the **** do you people wantBet half of those saying stuff like that about Williams, was probably the same ones who said things like that about Peppers the year we decided to go Edwards instead. It's bad enough to have a front office who sits with a finger up there butt,spinning around on it, and waiting for scraps in FA. Even worse when you have fans that are ok with being mediocre and bringing in rejects hoping for a miracle. Hoping one does a little something, istead of going after a more proven player. Sometimes these good,solid, old guys , will produce more well and still have years left.Personally, id like to have Charles Johnson though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I'm done arguing w your weak ***. If you disagree so be it. I've stooped down to your level enough for one day. You have a great new year tho1 hour later:you mad? Your self esteem seems low Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoFalconsFan56 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Bet half of those saying stuff like that about Williams, was probably the same ones who said things like that about Peppers the year we decided to go Edwards instead. It's bad enough to have a front office who sits with a finger up there butt,spinning around on it, and waiting for scraps in FA. Even worse when you have fans that are ok with being mediocre and bringing in rejects hoping for a miracle. Hoping one does a little something, istead of going after a more proven player. Sometimes these good,solid, old guys , will produce more well and still have years left.Personally, id like to have Charles Johnson thoughPeople ***** so much on this board they forget which side they're on. I'm not gonna be mad as long as DE is addressed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZFalcon Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 4 sacks in a down year with no scheme fit and he would still lead our sorry *** team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moist Words Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I mean I'm not happy about the Falcons having a weak pass rush for years but some of y'all seem legitimately angry about it. Like real world angry as h*** breaking stuff around the house type angry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXVIII-III Posted December 31, 2015 Author Share Posted December 31, 2015 Drafting well, good coaching and depth is how to put together a good defense. Not splashy, expensive 30+ year old free agents.LAUGH. OUT. LOUD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherdome Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Fix the Center position first, then address the DE position. William, Curry, Vernon, or even Irvin. It just does not matter to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Panthers arent getting pass the cardinals,I dont think so either,To the pint of the thread, if I am Atalanta I go after him aswell. I have a feeing we are going to see more "splash" this offseason than we have in a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 So what does make him great then? His 4 sacks this season? Missing meetings? Whining to the media? What's so great about him?Versatility can probably still play 60 defensive snaps without too many issues.I'm not saying we should pay 10-12 mill per to sign him and if he's after that I wouldn't becaue there are still a few good options out there for us.The pick would be an enticing one though.The straight up rush the passer style that Quinn peaches would be right up his alley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Tatf- ***** about pass rushPossible upgrade becomes available-finds everything but the hour of his birth to ***** about. The comedy this place provides daily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Tatf- ***** about pass rushPossible upgrade becomes available-finds everything but the hour of his birth to ***** about. The comedy this place provides dailyHalsey would be more than happy to throw 15 mil a year at gurley. It's hard to take him seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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