spanish_falcon Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 By Ian Rapoport;Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 5 minHace 5 minutosVer traducciónOn #Falcons GM Thomas Dimitroff, owner Arthur Blank will sit down after 2015 & hear his plan. No decision yet, but Dimitroff could stay .Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 5 minHace 5 minutosVer traducción#Falcons coaches believe there is a talent deficiency on the roster. No one disputes that. But don't assume Thomas Dimitroff takes the fall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconfanEST1989 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 ok its clear now Blank doesn't know what the heII he's doing... every year TD stays is 2 more years of a crappy team.. 2016 we won't be good if he stays then this team won't be a playoff contender until 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 If Dimi stays it might be time for Blank to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 If Dimi stays it might be time for Blank to go.No amount of your crying can make that happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaptain Krazy Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 It just seems very difficult to reconcile the two:1) Coaches believe there is a talent deficiency2) The person in charge of acquiring talent isn't the problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDawgMania Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 If Dimi stays it might be time for Blank to go. blank owns the team. He is not going anywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 It just seems very difficult to reconcile the two:1) Coaches believe there is a talent deficiency2) The person in charge of acquiring talent isn't the problemWe have two losses this year because the center cannot snap a ball. Quinn is in charge of the 53. Quinn cut hawley. Point? Blaming one person does nothing except appease simple minds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoneOne01 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Who takes the fall? Smitty isn't here to take the blame this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberlian Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Let Quinn decide if TD stays or goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capologist Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 It just seems very difficult to reconcile the two:1) Coaches believe there is a talent deficiency2) The person in charge of acquiring talent isn't the problemBecause Smitty and Nolan had more input than people want to admit, especially the last two seasons when it was outright said by Nolan that he didn't want pass rushers early and wanted to build from the inside which is what brought Soliai, Jackson and Hageman on board.95% of the people on this forum and all of the experts loved the 2015 draft... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaptain Krazy Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 (edited) Because Smitty and Nolan had more input than people want to admit, especially the last two seasons when it was outright said by Nolan that he didn't want pass rushers early and wanted to build from the inside which is what brought Soliai, Jackson and Hageman on board.95% of the people on this forum and all of the experts loved the 2015 draft...I don't disagree with your point about Nolan/Smitty, although it's hard to understand how Nolan led to the OL problems. But it's not just about the draft. This team has been more miss than hit when it comes to FA, and saving up money to then sit on it and roll it over to the next season so it can then go unspent...that seems more like a GM move, than a HC move.p.s. - it's the drafts in 2011-2013 that are killing this team right now. Maybe Smitty and Nolan are the villains of this tragedy, and TD is innocent. Edited December 27, 2015 by Kaptain Krazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intellectually Honest Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 blank owns the team. He is not going anywhereI don't think the guy is saying Blank will actually go. He is just saying if TD is the one fugging up the team with poor personnel decisions, and Blank insists to keep him, that ultimately it is the fault of the owner, who is also a bad judge of talent, at least for GM, and SHOULD go if the team is going to succeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoneOne01 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Because Smitty and Nolan had more input than people want to admit, especially the last two seasons when it was outright said by Nolan that he didn't want pass rushers early and wanted to build from the inside which is what brought Soliai, Jackson and Hageman on board.95% of the people on this forum and all of the experts loved the 2015 draft...The defense was in a lose-lose situation. You bolster the pass rush, the run defense is horrendous. Bolster the run defense and the pass rush suffers. There was no right answer to solve the defensive woes last season because the talent was barren across the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaptain Krazy Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 We have two losses this year because the center cannot snap a ball. Quinn is in charge of the 53. Quinn cut hawley.Point? Blaming one person does nothing except appease simple minds.One can accept that there is enough blame to spread around and still think that Dmitroff squandered 2nd-4th round picks for too many years. Quinn wasn't here when Peter Konz and Lamar Holmes were being drafted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domed Outter Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Because Smitty and Nolan had more input than people want to admit, especially the last two seasons when it was outright said by Nolan that he didn't want pass rushers early and wanted to build from the inside which is what brought Soliai, Jackson and Hageman on board.95% of the people on this forum and all of the experts loved the 2015 draft......and not all drafts can be hits from day one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 The thing about this is:TD has already lost some of his power as GM. Quinn has roster control and will build it how he sees fit. If he and the coaches liked working with TD and think they can fix the roster with TD, they will proceed with TD. The difference is the coaches aren't acting like they are flush with talent to try and not step on TD's toes. They hit the offseason last year out of the park, but it wasn't ever going to get us back to the postseason or in contention for anything. Only the fans think this roster could be fixed in one offseason. This always was going to be a multi-year fix. If TD is gone, good luck to him in the future. That doesn't change that Quinn will get his pieces on defense and Kyle the pieces on offense to win, regardless of the GM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Dog Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Whomever take the fall(s), it will be on the shoulders of the new CEO Blank hired to direct this ship upright again. You can take this to the bank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 One can accept that there is enough blame to spread around and still think that Dmitroff squandered 2nd-4th round picks for too many years. Quinn wasn't here when Peter Konz and Lamar Holmes were being drafted.Youre going to fire a GM for not hitting on 2nd thru 4th rounders? Good luck ever finding a GM you'd be happy with. That's more about player development than anything. You think elite talents are just sitting there in those rounds? No. They're built by coaches usually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E. T. Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Eh... I've seen alot of people come and go, this is just another one of those deals. I just want someone with experience! Not another "new to the position" person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Eh... I've seen alot of people come and go, this is just another one of those deals. I just want someone with experience! Not another "new to the position" person.So basically you want somebody who's failed elsewhere in hopes he doesn't stop failing? Sounds like keeping TD... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 If TD stays and Arthur does not fire Dimitroff (just like he never fired McKay), then the Falcons are being run like "Show-Friends" instead of "Show-Business".The dysfunction lives on @ Flowery Branch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnrealfalcoN Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Arthur should hire some master GMs from the message board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown bomber Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Here is the deal people. This is TD's last year on his contract. So basically Blank didn't fire him with Smitty so that he could play out his contract so to speak.Here is where DQ comes in. We were the last team to hire a HC. But before he was hired it was reported that DQ wanted George Paton as his GM from working with him in the past. But because Blank wasn't gonna fire TD before his contract was up, DQ had no other choice but to come in and act as if he just loves working with TD. And he may like working with him but I think he wants to work with Paton more.And looking at TD's track record since 08 everybody sees he has not put enough talent on this team. Everybody says give him one more year, I think this is his one more year from Blank. Contract is up and I believe Paton is the man going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconcrest58 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 ABs lil b;+# gotta go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nono Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 By Ian Rapoport;Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 5 minHace 5 minutosVer traducciónOn #Falcons GM Thomas Dimitroff, owner Arthur Blank will sit down after 2015 & hear his plan. No decision yet, but Dimitroff could stay .Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 5 minHace 5 minutosVer traducción#Falcons coaches believe there is a talent deficiency on the roster. No one disputes that. But don't assume Thomas Dimitroff takes the fallUpdate: as of 5 minutes ago GM Thomas Dimitroff was seen crying and running to his car screaming "it wasn't all my fault" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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