FalconFanSince1970 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 It's a good question. The jury's still out on Shanny and Smith, but here is how they stack up against the others so far:Per Game Averages2008-2011 - Mularkey & Van Gorder - 43-21 (.672)Offense - 24.5 points, 355 yards, 2.6 TDs, 1.3 turnoversDefense - 20.1 points allowed, 341 yards allowed, 1.7 takeaways, 1.9 sacks2012-2014 - Koetter & Nolan - 23-25 (.479)Offense - 24.0 points, 364 yards, 2.5 TDs, 1.4 turnoversDefense - 24.2 points allowed, 381 yards allowed, 1.7 takeaways, 1.7 sacks2015-2015 - Shanahan & Smith - 7-7 (.500)Offense - 21.6 points, 371 yards, 2.1 TDs, 1.9 turnoversDefense - 22.3 points allowed, 350 yards allowed, 1.5 takeaways, 1.2 sacks*points include defensive and special teams scores by team and oppositionWho you got? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobeit Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 I am going with Mularkey BVG. Not as much because Mularkey as BVG though. Still considering a young QB he got a lot out of a decent Oline. Still BVG may have been the best DC we ever had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Well for the SB or bust crowd it'd have to be Nolan and Koetter would'nt it.They have got us the deepest and since it's the Falcons and consistency and actually building properly don't count for JACK it has to be Koetter & Nolan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Radical Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 The ideal combo would be Koetter and Smith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlfanstckndenver Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 I think the one that had more playoff success. Mularky was great for developing a young Matt Ryan though. His offense just want going to cut it in the playoffs though unfortunately. I personally believe that Van Gorder was a Mike Smith company man more than anything. Nolan was good initially but absolutely ended up a failure here. Lol what's funny about this question is the way it's implying that Dimitroff had more input in selecting coordinators than Smith or Quinn. I just think the coach happens to have more say in that than the gm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukeduke211 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 I do also. Aswell as players being picked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted December 26, 2015 Author Share Posted December 26, 2015 I think the one that had more playoff success. Mularky was great for developing a young Matt Ryan though. His offense just want going to cut it in the playoffs though unfortunately. I personally believe that Van Gorder was a Mike Smith company man more than anything. Nolan was good initially but absolutely ended up a failure here.Lol what's funny about this question is the way it's implying that Dimitroff had more input in selecting coordinators than Smith or Quinn. I just think the coach happens to have more say in that than the gm.Yeah I agree with that playoff success point. So that would be Mularkey and Van Gorder. They went to the playoffs in three of their four seasons. Kutty and Nolan went once in their three. Shanny and Smith may never see a playoff if they stay on this pace.As for me implying Dimi selected the coordinators, au contraire my friend. The implication is that these were the coordinators during his tenure. A good GM who isn't a puppet without a backbone can veto any coordinator move made by a coach of his though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted December 26, 2015 Author Share Posted December 26, 2015 The ideal combo would be Koetter and Smith.I think Mularkey and Van Gorder were more of an ideal combo than Kutty and Smith would have been. They had the best point differential (+4.4), won the most games and qualified for the most post seasons. Mularkey averaged more ppg and had a better TD:Turnover ratio than Kutty and Shanny. Van Gorder allowed the fewest points, fewest yards, had more takeaways and got to the QB more than Nolan or Smith. I'll admit they had more McKay/Reeves players and had to deal with fewer Dimi players though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 I didn't know Dimitroff picked the coordinators. That is news to me. Funny how that works, but it's not a surprise considering who's thread this is and where he stands on Dimitroff and Smith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted December 26, 2015 Author Share Posted December 26, 2015 I didn't know Dimitroff picked the coordinators. That is news to me. Funny how that works, but it's not a surprise considering who's thread this is and where he stands on Dimitroff and Smith.Dimi could have vetoed any coordinator brought to Atlanta. Hail he could have fired the head coach if he wanted to. You just started a freakin sympathy thread for Shanny, now you're over here trying to defend Dimi. It's quite possible you don't know what ails the Atlanta Falcons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karst41 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 I didn't know Dimitroff picked the coordinators. That is news to me. Funny how that works, but it's not a surprise considering who's thread this is and where he stands on Dimitroff and Smith.Dumi is the friking GM, and somehow he is not responcible forthe players and coaches on the team?Rodeo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Dimi could have vetoed any coordinator brought to Atlanta. Hail he could have fired the head coach if he wanted to. You just started a freakin sympathy thread for Shanny, now you're over here trying to defend Dimi. It's quite possible you don't know what ails the Atlanta Falcons.Dimiroff hired Mike Smith. Mike Smith hired the coaches that worked under him. Sorry that you don't understand the structure of how a front office organization and coaching staff works in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Dumi is the friking GM, and somehow he is not responcible forthe players and coaches on the team?RodeoDimitroff hired Mike Smith. He did not hire Mike Mularkey, BVG, ect. Those hires were all made by Mike Smith. Sorry that you don't understand how that works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karst41 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Dimitroff hired Mike Smith. He did not hire Mike Mularkey, BVG, ect. Those hires were all made by Mike Smith. Sorry that you don't understand how that works.Oh yes by all means, please do explain it to me.Leme as you this.What you think would happen if Ozzie Newsome was our GM?Do you seriously believe that Ozzie would have allowed Van Gorderto mop the floors at the Branch.Do Tell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Oh yes by all means, please do explain it to me.Leme as you this.What you think would happen if Ozzie Newsome was our GM?Do you seriously believe that Ozzie would have allowed Van Gorderto mop the floors at the Branch.Do TellPlease continue to be ignorant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted December 26, 2015 Author Share Posted December 26, 2015 Oh yes by all means, please do explain it to me.Leme as you this.What you think would happen if Ozzie Newsome was our GM?Do you seriously believe that Ozzie would have allowed Van Gorderto mop the floors at the Branch.Do TellGood luck getting an answer. He's a clueless Shanny and Dimi apologist bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Dog Named Brian Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 I'm just here to find out who caves on pushing their agenda first, I give it another page or two if not shorter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlfanstckndenver Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Yeah I agree with that playoff success point. So that would be Mularkey and Van Gorder. They went to the playoffs in three of their four seasons. Kutty and Nolan went once in their three. Shanny and Smith may never see a playoff if they stay on this pace.As for me implying Dimi selected the coordinators, au contraire my friend. The implication is that these were the coordinators during his tenure. A good GM who isn't a puppet without a backbone can veto any coordinator move made by a coach of his though.Fair enough, but haven't you made clear your opinion that Dimitrov is exactly that? A gm puppet with no backbone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 I'm just here to find out who caves on pushing their agenda first, I give it another page or two if not shorter Must not have been here all that long. The people in this thread are some of the most notorious for arguing for arguments sake and would rather die than concede a point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Good luck getting an answer. He's a clueless Shanny and Dimi apologist bro.LMAO!!! This is now getting hilarious! If you seriously think that you need a brain transplant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xskyx Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 I personally would take Mularkey BVG over the rest.I enjoy Mularkey's offense. I think it was more of a personnel problem than a scheme problem in the playoffs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 I personally would take Mularkey BVG over the rest.I enjoy Mularkey's offense. I think it was more of a personnel problem than a scheme problem in the playoffs...Same here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller2Rison Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 The idea combo in my opinion would be Nolan/Mularkey. Mularkey ran a vanilla offense based on ball control and play action passes, BVG was too vanilla on defense and let teams back into games. If we had that ball control offense and a fresh roster on the field with that complex defense i think we may have won a SB. Control the clock, score, INT, control the clock, score again. So Mularkey/Nolan imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 I didn't know Dimitroff picked the coordinators. That is news to me. Funny how that works, but it's not a surprise considering who's thread this is and where he stands on Dimitroff and Smith.Dimi only picked the failures. Artie picked all the successful ones.You know how it is around here......TD signs SJax and Hankerson, you'll see these two players on many posters "bust" listBellichick signs SJax and Hankerson the narrative changes to sheer brilliance "I think SJax can really help them as they have an OL" and "Hankerson could really help Brady stretch the field". Just a bunch of Mularkey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Oh hey, a hindsight thread from the king!Taft wanted every single one fired. Who cares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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