Offseason Mock 3

[datchrisb1]

Looks like a rebuild from a stand point of the trenches. A must is to be able to rush with 4 up front, run the ball when we need to and protect the QB.

Let Go:

Kroy Biermann DE, Joplo Bartu LB, Adrian Clayborn DE/DT, Phillip Wheeler LB, Jake Long OT, Bryce Harris OT, Tony Moeaki, Chris Chester OG

Retain:

Ryan Schraeder OT, Nathan Stupar LB, Ricardo Allen S, Paul Worrilow LB

Cut:

Tyson Jackson, Jon Asamoah, Devin Hester, Roddy White

Free Agent Targets:

1. Vinny Curry DE - all this guy needs is a fresh start to his career in a new environment. We need to get more pressure on the QB and he can provide that.

2. Kelechi Osemele OG - A legit pro bowl guard to add to our O-line. Osemele fits what we need and will be a much needed upgrade at the guard position.

3. D.J. Swearinger SS - A safety that fits Quins system, tough in the box guy who can cover TEs.

4. Mark Barron LB - another guy in need of a fresh beginning. He is an athletic freak and I think he would also flourish in Quin's system.

5. Ladarius Green TE - Legit intermediate to deep threat at tight end. Fits what we need in Shanahan's system, yeah I see him still here next year.

6. Ricardo Lockette WR - I don't see Seattle making a play to retain him, would be great depth for us as well as a threat opposite Julio.

1. Tennessee- Joey Basa DE

2. San Diego- Paxton Lynch QB

3. San Francisco- Jared Goff QB

4. Cleveland- Leremy Tunsil OT

5. Baltimore- Robert Nkemdche DT

6. Detroit- Myles Jack LB

7. Jacksonville- Vernon Hargreaves CB

8. Chicago- Ronnie Stanley OT

9. Dallas- Lequon Treadwell WR

10. St. Louis- Connor Cook QB

11. New York (Giants)- Emannuel Ogbah DE

12. Miami- Taylor Decker OT

13th pick overall

Round 1: Jaylon Smith LB (Notre Dame) - Grab the best player available. I don't think I really need to elaborate on this one. It's a no-brainer.

Round 2: Shilique Calhoun DE (Michigan) - At this point which is early I honestly see him being available in the second round. If there also a no-brainer.

Round 3: Spencer Drango OG (Baylor) - The middle 3 has been a problem through out the season. Spencer is a must do pick in my opinion if still on the board.

Round 4: Devonte Fields LEO (Louisville) - Not only do we not have the talent needed to rush the passer but we also lack the depth to achieve the substitutions Quin likes. Fields will provide that depth along the front and also contribute on special teams. I predict that the Falcons' filter will be turned way down this draft.

Round 7: Malcolm Mitchell WR (UGA) - Provide more depth at wide receiver. Mitchell can contribute on special teams as well.

[etherdome]

Keep Wheeler. He is, at the least, a very good back-up. The same goes for Jake Long.

You have left us with very little at DT. If you want to build up the trenches, build them. I suggest either Clark or Robinson in the first.

J Smith will be off the board by #13. I can see Jack falling that far, but not Smith.

Calhoun is a first round talent, if he drops out of the first, he will go high in the second.

Don't forget Schofield.

[DurtyBurdz155]

Good overall. But Mitchell in the 7th would be a steal. He won't be there though. I would hope we could make a play for another veteran pass rusher too

[datchrisb1]

Keep Wheeler. He is, at the least, a very good back-up. The same goes for Jake Long.

You have left us with very little at DT. If you want to build up the trenches, build them. I suggest either Clark or Robinson in the first.

J Smith will be off the board by #13. I can see Jack falling that far, but not Smith.

Calhoun is a first round talent, if he drops out of the first, he will go high in the second.

Don't forget Schofield.

The way it went in this mock I'm not picking Robinson over Smith (like you said if you think he's already off the board then why then would you pick up Robinson over him, I just went with the best player on defense), Clark is okay but personally not at 13 overall, and we don't have "very little" at DT to begin with. We need to get the edges better, get more quickness in all areas but namely the ends. Every single DT we have has been a starter in a very good run defense. That's not very little. I took out Clayborn, which I was on the bubble with anyway. If I truly felt that way I would just bring him back, but we are above average in stopping the run, if we get the edges right that will translate on passing downs up the middle. I see Smith as being more of a hunter than Robinson when need be, he can do everything. If we go with what we have up the middle we will be just fine if not better if the edges pan out, I think the edges are our biggest problem. We WILL be picking high in the second, but I do agree Calhoun could be gone as I stated in my explanation.

I for one don't understand so many mocks emphasizing DTs with no ends. We are last in the league in affecting the passer, not stopping the run. And it's largely if not completely because of personnel rather than coaching. I see so many mocks picking up a bunch of DTs and Bruce Irvin like that's going to improve that greatly. Irvin would be great but just not by himself as far as pass rush. Not saying that it's wrong, just don't understand the logic.

I also see a lot of mocks where we are picking up just a center, a lot of explanations where people are blaming the center for the guards not being able to hold up in protection. Don't understand that either. Only thing a center is suppose to do is maybe assign you as a blocker, line shifts stuff like that, if the guard whiffs on the block or gets driving back into the quarterbacks lap then how is that the center's fault. If the guard misses a T E game block, the guard doesn't pick up his guy in time, but the center does which is the case a lot of times, why are we blaming the center. To me all 3 have been playing below average at times, but in my opinion Chester and Levitre have been the worse not Person. All have had there bad moments but to me Person has been the more consistent on the plus side of things. Again, not saying I'm right, I just don't understand the logic of just add a new center and these guys will get there blocks right. Why not add guards, because the guards are the ones F'in up? At least do it for competition, because that's what really drives a team in improvement.

[datchrisb1]

Keep Wheeler. He is, at the least, a very good back-up. The same goes for Jake Long.

You have left us with very little at DT. If you want to build up the trenches, build them. I suggest either Clark or Robinson in the first.

J Smith will be off the board by #13. I can see Jack falling that far, but not Smith.

Calhoun is a first round talent, if he drops out of the first, he will go high in the second.

Don't forget Schofield.

I think Jake Long will cost to much just to ride the bench. I do agree that I probably need to retain him if not get a free agent for depth purposes. And with what I am bringing in at linebacker, I would rather just retain Stupar.

[Smiler11]

Nice work, although if Jalen Ramsey is on the board I'll be mad if we passed on him, even for Jaylon Smith who is one of my favorite players in this draft.

[hjerry]

If we wanted Swearinger, he'd already be on the team.

[etherdome]

The way it went in this mock I'm not picking Robinson over Smith (like you said if you think he's already off the board then why then would you pick up Robinson over him, I just went with the best player on defense), Clark is okay but personally not at 13 overall, and we don't have "very little" at DT to begin with. We need to get the edges better, get more quickness in all areas but namely the ends. Every single DT we have has been a starter in a very good run defense. That's not very little. I took out Clayborn, which I was on the bubble with anyway. If I truly felt that way I would just bring him back, but we are above average in stopping the run, if we get the edges right that will translate on passing downs up the middle. I see Smith as being more of a hunter than Robinson when need be, he can do everything. If we go with what we have up the middle we will be just fine if not better if the edges pan out, I think the edges are our biggest problem. We WILL be picking high in the second, but I do agree Calhoun could be gone as I stated in my explanation.

I for one don't understand so many mocks emphasizing DTs with no ends. We are last in the league in affecting the passer, not stopping the run. And it's largely if not completely because of personnel rather than coaching. I see so many mocks picking up a bunch of DTs and Bruce Irvin like that's going to improve that greatly. Irvin would be great but just not by himself as far as pass rush. Not saying that it's wrong, just don't understand the logic.

I also see a lot of mocks where we are picking up just a center, a lot of explanations where people are blaming the center for the guards not being able to hold up in protection. Don't understand that either. Only thing a center is suppose to do is maybe assign you as a blocker, line shifts stuff like that, if the guard whiffs on the block or gets driving back into the quarterbacks lap then how is that the center's fault. If the guard misses a T E game block, the guard doesn't pick up his guy in time, but the center does which is the case a lot of times, why are we blaming the center. To me all 3 have been playing below average at times, but in my opinion Chester and Levitre have been the worse not Person. All have had there bad moments but to me Person has been the more consistent on the plus side of things. Again, not saying I'm right, I just don't understand the logic of just add a new center and these guys will get there blocks right. Why not add guards, because the guards are the ones F'in up? At least do it for competition, because that's what really drives a team in improvement.

I will respectfully disagree with your assessment of our DT's. Soliai and Jackson are nice run stoppers. Soliai can collapse the pocket, but he appears to be trending downward from a health standpoint. Both DT's have expensive contracts and are likely off season cap casualties.

We will be left with Jarrett, Hageman and Mbu. Jarrett looks promising but will need to play next to a DT that commands double teams. Neither Hageman nor Mbu fit that mold. Both Clark and Robinson have the size to anchor, but also have the ability to push OL's backwards.

There are several good edge rushers that will become available in free agency. If we sign one of them to take over the LEO position, we will be able to move Beasley to the SLB spot and really improve our outside pass rush. The draft also offers several quick LB's that can hunt. Deion Jones and Terrance Smith come to mind.

Hey, we all see something different on our team. That is why we come here. I respect your opinion, and I hope that I have explained mine.

Edited December 22, 2015 by etherdome

[g-dawg]

Agree with Ether - we definitely keep Philip Wheeler.

Isn't Shaquille Calhoun another sloooooooow defensive end? We need pass rushers.

[A-TowN.-]

Agree with Ether - we definitely keep Philip Wheeler.

Isn't Shaquille Calhoun another sloooooooow defensive end? We need pass rushers.

I actually think he's one of the quicker ones.

[etherdome]

Calhoun is a heck of a football player. He is not getting a lot of attention in the media, but I bet scouts are all over him. If we address DT and OL in free agency, I would have no problem taking Calhoun in the first.

[datchrisb1]

I will respectfully disagree with your assessment of our DT's. Soliai and Jackson are nice run stoppers. Soliai can collapse the pocket, but he appears to be trending downward from a health standpoint. Both DT's have expensive contracts and are likely off season cap casualties.

We will be left with Jarrett, Hageman and Mbu. Jarrett looks promising but will need to play next to a DT that commands double teams. Neither Hageman nor Mbu fit that mold. Both Clark and Robinson have the size to anchor, but also have the ability to push OL's backwards.

There are several good edge rushers that will become available in free agency. If we sign one of them to take over the LEO position, we will be able to move Beasley to the SLB spot and really improve our outside pass rush. The draft also offers several quick LB's that can hunt. Deion Jones and Terrance Smith come to mind.

Hey, we all see something different on our team. That is why we come here. I respect your opinion, and I hope that I have explained mine.

"We will be left with Jarrett, Hageman and Mbu." ? No that's not true, if Solial which I agree is on the decline is gone we will not be left with just 3 DTs. Go look at the roster.

"There are several good edge rushers that will become available in free agency. If we sign one of them to take over the LEO position, we will be able to move Beasley to the SLB spot and really improve our outside pass rush. The draft also offers several quick LB's that can hunt. Deion Jones and Terrance Smith come to mind." - why are we moving Beasley to SLB? I think he could be there situationally, pretty much just like he is now, situationally he stands up and is in coverage, situationally he is a D-lineman, but are you talking permanently?

[datchrisb1]

Agree with Ether - we definitely keep Philip Wheeler.

Isn't Shaquille Calhoun another sloooooooow defensive end? We need pass rushers.

What scouting report did you read, or tape did you watch to make you think that? Yeah, we do need pass rushers, Calhoun is a pass rusher in my opinion.

[datchrisb1]

If we wanted Swearinger, he'd already be on the team.

Extremely good point. Still think we pick up a vet SS in free agency.

[datchrisb1]

Good overall. But Mitchell in the 7th would be a steal. He won't be there though. I would hope we could make a play for another veteran pass rusher too

Yea, I actually agree. I was just going with what the rankings are right now. Honestly the steal of this draft is Devonte Fields, surprised nobody mentioned that pick, dude is a mid 1st round guy at least just based of talent, but he's a knuckle head.

[The O.D.B]

Quick Correction: Jop is already off the team. Cut about 4 weeks ago.

[RYNE]

Not bad.

Idk why everyone is so hel| bent on cutting Kroy again. Been our best run defender and is dirt cheap. Makes no sense

[A-TowN.-]

I actually like Kroy Beirrman. I don't like it when he is put in coverage though. Other than that, I think we should keep him around. He's been a contributor.

[datchrisb1]

Not bad.

Idk why everyone is so hel| bent on cutting Kroy again. Been our best run defender and is dirt cheap. Makes no sense

I actually like Kroy Beirrman. I don't like it when he is put in coverage though. Other than that, I think we should keep him around. He's been a contributor.

Just thinking about it, Bierman has been a great contributor for us. Just looking at how we are now, this whole draft is not possible. We are 8-7 now, but are eliminated from the playoffs. There are 12 teams that make the playoffs, 32 teams in the NFL. That puts our pick at a team just out of the playoffs between 18 and 20. One of those picks, not 13, I don't see any of these players being on the board at pick 20 of each round, maybe Fields but that's it. Whole mock is off but that's what happens when you do this during the season. Was still fun to make.