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On my local sports station (98.7 in new york) a caller was talking about the whole OBJ vs Norman fight(s) yesterday. He said with the helmet to helmet hit aside, he was glad to see OBJ do what he did. It lit a fire on that team, especially when he caught the TD and got the entire Stadium rocking with his fire on the sidelines.

It got me thinking, when's the last time we had someone like that? Who do we have that can light a fire (as they also said it's usually not the QB, rare circumstances do happen but it's usually someone else).

I tried to think who would be fired up if we had a comeback like that and I can't figure it out. Now I'm not saying we need that to win but it's just a curious thought.

What say you?

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oh, and I am glad we don't have someone with those antics on our team. I know one thing, Coughlin was hot about it in his presser. that said, winning mattered more to him that doing the right thing, because even though he admitted he thought hard about pulling him for what he was doing, he didn't to try and win.

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I absolutely agree he should have been ejected way before that (and to a degree Norman too just to avoid further altercations) but I'm not saying that THAT play lead the comeback but to see him out there with fire and playing pisses off lit some type of fire. I was (unfortunately) able to watch the whole game and you could tell some of the fire rubbed off on the other guys. Especially the TD against Norman to tie it, that place was rocking more than usual especially when he was on the sidelines.

He did the same type of thing when they played the Redskins (scored a TD and lit a fire under the crowd and rest of the players arses). It just seems like we don't have that type of guy to get the crowd into it and the team believing.

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If the Falcons were in the heat of a playoff race and Julio behaved in a way to warrant a suspension entering Week 16 of the season, i would hope the fan base would realize how stupid such behavior is.

If a team needs someone to act like that to get "fired up," there are serious problems with the team.

I should have clarified my post, I didn't mean so much the late hit and being chippy. It was more about getting the crowd fired up and playing with passion. He dropped an easy TD and said it was on him, he had to fight for every catch and every play. It's the fire and intensity that I'm aiming for. Like I said above he did the same fire and passion in the Redskins game and got the crowd and team back into it.

That stuff (dirty stuff) also falls on the refs, they didn't do anything early in the game to try and stop it. Both guys should have been ejected.

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oh, and I am glad we don't have someone with those antics on our team. I know one thing, Coughlin was hot about it in his presser. that said, winning mattered more to him that doing the right thing, because even though he admitted he thought hard about pulling him for what he was doing, he didn't to try and win.

Coughlin is a POS for not pulling that fool off the field. His behavior was a disgrace to not just football but to the human race. If we start stocking this team with human feces like ODB I'll find some other team to watch.

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dude is a diva. any other player would have gotten thrown out of the game if they pulled that garbage. this is proof that the nfl caters to certain players because of their popularity. Beckham is only popular because he made a fluke catch and now nfl sees him as a mega star. I want this dude banned from the nfl.

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I think the point I was trying f to make got lost in the other stuff.

I'm trying to say we don't have a guy to spark the fans and team, yeah everyone goes crazy when there's a deep bomb to Julio bit that level of crazy and intensity doesn't last. It's more than just waving your arms and twirling a towel. It's about the spark and fire and aggression and intensity. I just feel like we are missing that.

There isn't anyone on the team that can raise the level of play of the team when they are "dead" on the sidelines.

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I understand both sides to this. Wouldn't mind seeing a suspension myself, but the ops main point here is a valid one in my opinion. We need some emotional leaders on this team. I'm not saying having divas is necessary, but seriously though, who rallies the troops when our team's back is against the wall? I have a hard time thinking of someone. Soliai shows good passion but who is that guy for us?

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maybe I'm the only person in the world who thinks this, but I say the punk Norman got what he deserved. EVERY highlight I saw, Norman was the first to throw a punch or body slam him, and he just finally got tired of it. Obviously the refs weren't going to do anything about it. First highlight, norman body slammed him, another highlight, norman had him by the face mask, even on "THE" play everyone is talking about, Beckham was walking away after the play, Norman hit him with a cheap shot to the back of the head, then the "famous" part of the play happened.

I agree with what Deion said last night, they should have BOTH been ejected

I do think this has been something that's been taught well in carolina, (one of Normans interviews even eluded to their training) going back to the steve smith/meangelo hall days. Do and say every little thing you can get away with to get under the opponents skin. We saw the same thing with greg hardy and of all people, matt bryant.......

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maybe I'm the only person in the world who thinks this, but I say the punk Norman got what he deserved. EVERY highlight I saw, Norman was the first to throw a punch or body slam him, and he just finally got tired of it. Obviously the refs weren't going to do anything about it. First highlight, norman body slammed him, another highlight, norman had him by the face mask, even on "THE" play everyone is talking about, Beckham was walking away after the play, Norman hit him with a cheap shot to the back of the head, then the "famous" part of the play happened.

I agree with what Deion said last night, they should have BOTH been ejected

I do think this has been something that's been taught well in carolina, (one of Normans interviews even eluded to their training) going back to the steve smith/meangelo hall days. Do and say every little thing you can get away with to get under the opponents skin. We saw the same thing with greg hardy and of all people, matt bryant.......

I'm with you. I'm not excusing Odell for losing it out there but if you watch it all Norman DEFINITELY got it started with some cheap shots and overall he seems to be getting a major pass from people. I have no doubt he's a punk.

They probably both should have been ejected. They weren't. I think Odell gets a fine but with them being in the mix for the playoffs, being a NY team, and having a primetime game next week I doubt he misses a game for this.

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If he'd done what he did in the parking lot he'd be facing 20 years for aggravated assault.

But he wasn't. He's playing football.

If hockey players pulled the stuff they pulled on the ice in normal life they'd' get arrested but it's hockey...

If people charged at people like baseball players charge the mound they'd wind up in jail for the night but they don't because it's baseball...

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maybe I'm the only person in the world who thinks this, but I say the punk Norman got what he deserved. EVERY highlight I saw, Norman was the first to throw a punch or body slam him, and he just finally got tired of it. Obviously the refs weren't going to do anything about it. First highlight, norman body slammed him, another highlight, norman had him by the face mask, even on "THE" play everyone is talking about, Beckham was walking away after the play, Norman hit him with a cheap shot to the back of the head, then the "famous" part of the play happened.

I agree with what Deion said last night, they should have BOTH been ejected

I do think this has been something that's been taught well in carolina, (one of Normans interviews even eluded to their training) going back to the steve smith/meangelo hall days. Do and say every little thing you can get away with to get under the opponents skin. We saw the same thing with greg hardy and of all people, matt bryant.......

We'll see Norman get away with hugging Julio yet again, unless Beckham's comments point the officials in the direction of taken a keener eye on his play.

Panthers are media darlings right now so of course they'll err to their side.

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