Does Blank Have Something Against Hiring Proven Nfl Hcs?

[Mega Flare]

If Bill Belichick is the football HC equivalent of a chess Grand Master, Blank usually goes out and hires a pretty good checker player as his HC choice. I guess you could charitably call them "fringe" selections. Since Quinn was a group/think-tank hire, he stands to be the best of the lot.

I'm not even sure he was the best option among the candidates mentioned at the time.

[GetUSom3]

I find it incredible that this is so obvious to us, but apparently escapes Mr. Blank.

Perhaps Tommy has some photos? At some point Arthur must prove that he is committed to bringing a Winner to this city.

He promised it, but with the wheels off the bus, you keep your best friend at the steering wheel? This is quickly turning into an Al Davis situation without the Super Bowls.

[ukfalc]

You guys act as if there are obvious candidates out there who are guaranteed to win us championship and who anybody who wants to win could/should go out and sign today. You live on a fantasy world.

Almost all of the great proven coaches and GM's are already under contract to teams. The few who are available are either retired, or working in the media and not looking to return to the NFL. Even when the great ones do return they are far from guaranteed to succeed again. Just look at Joe Gibbs - 3 SBs with 3 different starting QB's and was awful when he returned. Rich McKay was considered by many to be the best GM in the NFL when he came here and our pathetic fanbase was disparate yo tun him out of town at the first sign of adversity.

When you make changes, you invariably end up having to choose between unproven guys who are stepping up from lesser positions, or retreads who have already failed elsewhere.

[blizzard_falcon]

Here is the list of active NFL head coaches with 50+ wins, and their overall win/loss records:

Bill Belichick - 222-111

Tom Coughlin - 170-147

Jeff Fisher - 167-155

Andy Reid - 158-110

John Fox - 124-97

Marvin Lewis - 110-93

Mike McCarthy - 103-53

Pete Carroll - 91-66

Mike Tomlin - 90-50

Lovie Smith - 89-84

Sean Payton - 85-56

John Harbaugh - 76-49

Jack del Rio - 74-78

Gary Kubiak - 71-67

Rex Ryan - 52-57

The only ones available this offseason were John Fox, Jack del Rio, Gary Kubiak, and Rex Ryan. None of those coaches has won a Super Bowl; only Fox has appeared in one. And I don't recall Falcons fans clamoring to bring Fox to Atlanta in the offseason.

Also, I can't believe fans here are clamoring for Rex Ryan. He has completely destroyed a Buffalo defense that was an elite unit the past two season. A defense that had 54 sacks last season, 1st in the league, is now on pace to finish with 23 on the season ... with the exact same personnel starting along the defensive line.
They finished last season 4th in total yards and 4th in scoring; this year the Bills' D is 20th in total yards and 15th in scoring -- both of which rank worse than us. A team with Mario Williams, Marcell Dareus, Jerry Hughes, Manny Lawson, Ronald Darby, Stephon Gilmore (went on IR this week), and Kyle Williams (went on IR last month) is playing worse defense than our Falcons. They have more talent than us at almost every position, yet Rex is blowing games defensively each week.
Rex is taking an insane amount of heat in the Buffalo media for coming in and dismantling a defense that had been one of the best in the league. He's basically our equivalent of Kyle Shanahan.

Okay, you say, but what about "proven" NFL head coaches who are out of work?

The only ones who were head coaches within the past 5 years are:

Mike Shanahan - 170-38

Norv Turner - 114-122

Wade Phillips - 82-64

Mike Smith - 66-46

I left off anyone who hadn't coached since 2010, because it's been shown in the past that NFL head coaches who come back after a lengthy time away from the game are ineffective, at best. And even two of the guys on this list, Turner and Phillips, have proven time and time again that they are excellent coordinators, but pretty lousy head coaches.

Basically, Arthur Blank was limited by who was available. And we know he was going to avoid any but the best of the NCAA coaches, given how this franchise was burned by Bobby Petrino.

An extensive search committee decided that Dan Quinn was the guy. And I think the verdict is still out on that one. Yes, this team is in the midst of one of the worst collapses in NFL History... but I'm still willing to give Quinn another year or two to see if he can't work some improvements. It's not like the roster cupboard is exactly bursting with talent on either side of the ball.

[Nono]

He is always looking for a deal and future rising star

[Mr.11]

Here is the list of active NFL head coaches with 50+ wins, and their overall win/loss records:

Bill Belichick - 222-111

Tom Coughlin - 170-147

Jeff Fisher - 167-155

Andy Reid - 158-110

John Fox - 124-97

Marvin Lewis - 110-93

Mike McCarthy - 103-53

Pete Carroll - 91-66

Mike Tomlin - 90-50

Lovie Smith - 89-84

Sean Payton - 85-56

John Harbaugh - 76-49

Jack del Rio - 74-78

Gary Kubiak - 71-67

Rex Ryan - 52-57

The only ones available this offseason were John Fox, Jack del Rio, Gary Kubiak, and Rex Ryan. None of those coaches has won a Super Bowl; only Fox has appeared in one. And I don't recall Falcons fans clamoring to bring Fox to Atlanta in the offseason.

Also, I can't believe fans here are clamoring for Rex Ryan. He has completely destroyed a Buffalo defense that was an elite unit the past two season. A defense that had 54 sacks last season, 1st in the league, is now on pace to finish with 23 on the season ... with the exact same personnel starting along the defensive line.

They finished last season 4th in total yards and 4th in scoring; this year the Bills' D is 20th in total yards and 15th in scoring -- both of which rank worse than us. A team with Mario Williams, Marcell Dareus, Jerry Hughes, Manny Lawson, Ronald Darby, Stephon Gilmore (went on IR this week), and Kyle Williams (went on IR last month) is playing worse defense than our Falcons. They have more talent than us at almost every position, yet Rex is blowing games defensively each week.

Rex is taking an insane amount of heat in the Buffalo media for coming in and dismantling a defense that had been one of the best in the league. He's basically our equivalent of Kyle Shanahan.

Okay, you say, but what about "proven" NFL head coaches who are out of work?

The only ones who were head coaches within the past 5 years are:

Mike Shanahan - 170-38

Norv Turner - 114-122

Wade Phillips - 82-64

Mike Smith - 66-46

I left off anyone who hadn't coached since 2010, because it's been shown in the past that NFL head coaches who come back after a lengthy time away from the game are ineffective, at best. And even two of the guys on this list, Turner and Phillips, have proven time and time again that they are excellent coordinators, but pretty lousy head coaches.

Basically, Arthur Blank was limited by who was available. And we know he was going to avoid any but the best of the NCAA coaches, given how this franchise was burned by Bobby Petrino.

An extensive search committee decided that Dan Quinn was the guy. And I think the verdict is still out on that one. Yes, this team is in the midst of one of the worst collapses in NFL History... but I'm still willing to give Quinn another year or two to see if he can't work some improvements. It's not like the roster cupboard is exactly bursting with talent on either side of the ball.

[*Old Pappy Falcon*]

Quinn is the new age HC. I think he finds success here.

[Club212]

No coach has won SB with two different teams. Proven HC don't jump in the hunt that often, if they do no one is going to pick Atlanta. Remember in 2007, no one wanted any part of Falcons. Its not just about Blank hiring some one, its also about the HC wanting to come here.

Retired retreds usually don't cut it since the're out of the game too long less Vermeil...who, by the way, was surrounded by a mostly overage,veteran staff! Something DQ does NOT have!