74ice 46 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 I know this topic might be 10 months behind , but I was just thinking....He hired(or rather approved of) Mora..unproven head coach, with a spotty track record as d coachApproved of a mostly college coach, with very limited NFL experience, who obviously was not vetted properly, in PetrinoApproved of Smith, an unproven head coach, with a somewhat spotty track record as a d coachApproved of Dan Quinn, unproven head coach, with a good track record,I find it interesting that a man that made a billion dollar empire with hiring the right people around him, hiring the best people...has always went with unproven commodities.A connection or just individual cases Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sven 445 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Proven commodities generally don't get fired or become available. Proven coaches that become available have track records of averageness, like Jeff Fisher. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
74ice 46 Posted December 16, 2015 Author Share Posted December 16, 2015 And I might add, hired an unproven GM who had never even been in charge of player personnel at an NFL level, only college scouting in DimitroffThe only proven thing he has ever hired was McKay... Who if you think about the early Ryan years(1-2) were made up of a lot of his touches(especially in the trenches) the last time we had decent lines Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonOfThemBirds 18,959 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Proven NFL HCs are either still with their successful teams, very old, or dead.The only type of proven HCs that are avalible are the ones have proven that they suck or pretty much that time has past them by schematically. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Old Pappy falcon 2,113 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 I think he found a gem here. Dan is young, energetic and knowledgeable of the game.Quinn will be the king of da ATL one day! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ManInBlack 49 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 You mean like the proven GM he hired?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zzfrow 673 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 John Gruden was just itching to come back and he proudly shows off his SB ring every chance he gets. Ok J/K. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cooperbh 3,481 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Proven commodities generally don't get fired or become available. Proven coaches that become available have track records of averageness, like Jeff Fisher.And even if a proven HC were to become available, he would never submit to take orders from one of the NFL's worst owners in Arthur Blank. Same goes for proven GMs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UGABOZ 2,027 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 I know this topic might be 10 months behind , but I was just thinking....He hired(or rather approved of) Mora..unproven head coach, with a spotty track record as d coachApproved of a mostly college coach, with very limited NFL experience, who obviously was not vetted properly, in PetrinoApproved of Smith, an unproven head coach, with a somewhat spotty track record as a d coachApproved of Dan Quinn, unproven head coach, with a good track record,I find it interesting that a man that made a billion dollar empire with hiring the right people around him, hiring the best people...has always went with unproven commodities.A connection or just individual casesquinn is the worst hire of all those guys. mora did a decent job, pretrino post vick era, smith love him Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UGABOZ 2,027 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 I think he found a gem here. Dan is young, energetic and knowledgeable of the game.Quinn will be the king of da ATL one day!lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcons007 24,137 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 No coach has won SB with two different teams. Proven HC don't jump in the hunt that often, if they do no one is going to pick Atlanta. Remember in 2007, no one wanted any part of Falcons. Its not just about Blank hiring some one, its also about the HC wanting to come here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Homer the Brave Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Atlanta is not a final destination for proven head coaches to advance to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Homer the Brave Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 But wait! There's always Jon Gruden and Bill Cowher! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Homer the Brave Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Smitty is the best coach in Falcon history.... NOBODY LIKES TO HEAR THAT!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mega Flare 5,544 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 No, Blank is just a bad judge of front office talent, and is a control freak. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
samueladams 235 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Believe in DQ, he's inherited someone else's team and needs time to improve it. I think he will get alot of great pieces this off season. Then again, DQ is a great DC, so give him a chance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GetUSom3 302 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Medical condition, mental breakdowns known as Onset Thomas Dimitroff. One cannot be cured from this disease unless one is willing to admit they have it.Chronic symptoms include:Inability to spot talent Total disregard for Lineman Mental blocks regarding the term "Pass Rush" and anyone that has ever done it. Inability to reason, plan, or build.Cure: Immediate removal of the cancer. Recovery immediate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flying Falcon 9,264 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Proven commodities generally don't get fired or become available. Proven coaches that become available have track records of averageness, like Jeff Fisher.But Rex Ryan was available. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trouble 2,995 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 We where replacing the most successful coach we ever had. Coaching here doesn't scream job security. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sidecar Falcon 8,133 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Hiring a coach that is "proven" is a tough task. It makes it harder because the coaches with a good track record are taken by teams or retired. You never/rarely see a proven coach end up on the market, unless he retires then comes back. Even then you'll get armchair GMs questioning the decision, case in point, Vermeil. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
E. T. 5,808 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 To me, Blank looks for head coaches kinda like how TD looks for talent in the draft. The Diamond in the rough philosophy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flying Falcon 9,264 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 To me, Blank looks for head coaches kinda like how TD looks for talent in the draft. The Diamond in the rough philosophy.EXACTLY!!!!!! Cause a proven coach WAS available. Rex had came and interviewed and everything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PokerSteve 27,851 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 No, Blank is just a bad judge of front office talent, and is a control freak.If Bill Belichick is the football HC equivalent of a chess Grand Master, Blank usually goes out and hires a pretty good checker player as his HC choice. I guess you could charitably call them "fringe" selections. Since Quinn was a group/think-tank hire, he stands to be the best of the lot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconFanForLife 2,097 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Medical condition, mental breakdowns known as Onset Thomas Dimitroff. One cannot be cured from this disease unless one is willing to admit they have it.Chronic symptoms include:Inability to spot talent Total disregard for Lineman Mental blocks regarding the term "Pass Rush" and anyone that has ever done it. Inability to reason, plan, or build.Cure: Immediate removal of the cancer. Recovery immediate.I find it incredible that this is so obvious to us, but apparently escapes Mr. Blank. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ezekiel 25:17 17,613 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Proven NFL HCs are either still with their successful teams, very old, or dead.The only type of proven HCs that are avalible are the ones have proven that they suck or pretty much that time has past them by schematically.Its like they have proven they can't win. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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