Quinn's Antics Have Worn Off Quickly

[sdogg]

You act like this is the exception rather than the rule. What about this organization offers evidence that Quinn just needs a little time?

I can show you multiple times where this franchise has ditched our most successful coaches only to become a dumpster fire.

The culture has not changed in the 40 years I've been watching. Ownership has never had the patience, loyalty or vision to remain competitive for long stretches.

Does anybody believe that the Steelers would've fired Smith, Reeves or Bennett after what they accomplished? They would've figured it out together.

If Blank dumped the coach who produced unprecedented winning simply because he had to rebuild, why should I care about this unknown rookie? Odds are very strong that he's headed to the unemployment line sooner than later.

Then you guys will be telling me the next coach is the one, not Quinn.

It's wash, rinse and repeat with these same ones.

[Andras]

It's a business. It's easy to sit back and say, "let's just wait the coach out and give him time to figure it out" when you aren't the one trying to sell tickets.

[thanat0s]

It's wash, rinse and repeat with these same ones.

Yes, sir. I've seen so many fires and hires by our owners, I'm just numb to all the cheerleading. If a guy isn't showing me he has skills, I'm not coddling him.

Quinn has not made one in-game coaching call that positively affected the outcome of a game. Not one. And I'm supposed to just ignore that?

[Jesus]

Yes, sir. I've seen so many fires and hires by our owners, I'm just numb to all the cheerleading. If a guy isn't showing me he has skills, I'm not coddling him.

Quinn has not made one in-game coaching call that positively affected the outcome of a game. Not one. And I'm supposed to just ignore that?

Dallas. We came out with a new attitude at the half. We played stronger on both sides of the ball. We kept running and shut down their run game. That was the best we played all year. Now we don't do any of that. It's like everyone is waiting for the season to end. To hit the links and relax.

[sdogg]

Yes, sir. I've seen so many fires and hires by our owners, I'm just numb to all the cheerleading. If a guy isn't showing me he has skills, I'm not coddling him.

Quinn has not made one in-game coaching call that positively affected the outcome of a game. Not one. And I'm supposed to just ignore that?

Exactly!! When you've been a fan of this dumpster franchise as long as I have (since 77), you don't go crowning FO, coaches and players like some do. This franchise has done nothing to earn the benefit of the doubt

[thanat0s]

Dallas. We came out with a new attitude at the half. We played stronger on both sides of the ball. We kept running and shut down their run game. That was the best we played all year. Now we don't do any of that. It's like everyone is waiting for the season to end. To hit the links and relax.

The only fight Dallas put up in that game was during the scripted portion. Once they began calling plays on the fly, it was obvious their QB was clueless.

Not to mention, there was no call. A call is Quinn saying kick a bloody FG in San Francisco inside the five. That's a call.

[Knight of God]

Difference is we started out 5-0 and are now 1-7. Its not like we are seeing a team struggling or trying to get back in, they are quitting. If that was reversed and we started out 1-7 but were riding a win streak then we could see growth. Sure its year one but it is not ending well. Each week they just quit more and more. Then you see the offense the one piece that should keep it close put out a horrible game plan. It does feel like tanking when it isn't.

What? Are you guys really that nuts?

You act like this is the exception rather than the rule. What about this organization offers evidence that Quinn just needs a little time?

I can show you multiple times where this franchise has ditched our most successful coaches only to become a dumpster fire.

The culture has not changed in the 40 years I've been watching. Ownership has never had the patience, loyalty or vision to remain competitive for long stretches.

Does anybody believe that the Steelers would've fired Smith, Reeves or Bennett after what they accomplished? They would've figured it out together.

If Blank dumped the coach who produced unprecedented winning simply because he had to rebuild, why should I care about this unknown rookie? Odds are very strong that he's headed to the unemployment line sooner than later.

Then you guys will be telling me the next coach is the one, not Quinn.

Then what's the point? Go ahead and fire Shanahan and Quinn. Let me tell you what that says. "We don't give you a chance to fully unpack. You come here and you will have to pack your family the same year you touch ground." Let me tell you bro, I know some guys who had teams do something very similar. They still haven't recovered.

Not sure why they went on a discarded Mike, but that's done. Like everything else, its over. He's gone. So is Koetter, Vick, Nolan, Reeves, Tuggle, and everyone else. This is now. I don't care about last year.

Your bitterness is showing, this is not how football works...you guys are ridiculous.

[hjerry]

What? Are you guys really that nuts?

Then what's the point? Go ahead and fire Shanahan and Quinn. Let me tell you what that says. "We don't give you a chance to fully unpack. You come here and you will have to pack your family the same year you touch ground." Let me tell you bro, I know some guys who had teams do something very similar. They still haven't recovered.

Not sure why they went on a discarded Mike, but that's done. Like everything else, its over. He's gone. So is Koetter, Vick, Nolan, Reeves, Tuggle, and everyone else. This is now. I don't care about last year.

Your bitterness is showing, this is not how football works...you guys are ridiculous.

Tape from a previous scheme can only show you so much. In a lot of ways, this next offseason is the real beginning for what Quinn will turn this team into.

[hjerry]

I love how Vel has basically completely destroyed Sdogg here and he's basically just responding with the internet equivalent of saying the other guy's hair is stupid.

[Knight of God]

hjerry, I like sdogg and a few of the others. I don't even know what is going on TBH. Its all kind of crazy. There is even someone trying to say a projected 7th rounder is projected in the 2nd.

I feel like the guy looking for his home in Taured.

[hjerry]

hjerry, I like sdogg and a few of the others. I don't even know what is going on TBH. Its all kind of crazy. There is even someone trying to say a projected 7th rounder is projected in the 2nd.

I feel like the guy looking for his home in Taured.

It all goes back to one of the first pages. Someone said that wheeler covering a wr was dumb b/c LBs shouldn't be asked to cover WRs, so vel pointed out that Davis covered Julio, and sdogg tried to argue that meant that vel was implying that wheeler and davis were on the same level.

It would've all been over real quick had sdogg just admitted that it's not bad for a coach to have a LB cover a WR, as long as they're capable, but he just wouldn't let it go lol.

[zzfrow]

It's more of the point that we have lost six games in a row, and with the exception of Carolina today, which was always going to be a loss anyway, it's like we are clueless each and every week. It's like there has been no progress made at all over the last six weeks. I mean it's not like we had a tough stretch of games in a row, mostly sub .500 teams and yet we keep making the same mistakes week after week. That is the thing that worries me is that we aren't making any improvement and things in fact seem to be getting worse, which is almost hard to imagine. We are sadly becoming an irrelevant franchise that is just going to keep spinning our wheels and wasting years and years. I thought we had turned a corner in 2008 and we were slowly getting some respectability back as a franchise, but we are starting to lose all of that and now this will likely be another losing season unless things we win 2 of the next 3 games, and that is enough of a streak to signify that we have taken major steps back that will not be fixed quickly. That is the most frustrating part.

[Knight of God]

It all goes back to one of the first pages. Someone said that wheeler covering a wr was dumb b/c LBs shouldn't be asked to cover WRs, so vel pointed out that Davis covered Julio, and sdogg tried to argue that meant that vel was implying that wheeler and davis were on the same level.

It would've all been over real quick had sdogg just admitted that it's not bad for a coach to have a LB cover a WR, as long as they're capable, but he just wouldn't let it go lol.

LOL...arguing purely out of emotion then...

[Sidecar Falcon]

I love how people want to give up on a coach less than one season in. If I recall correctly OP and alot of others were begging for Rex Ryan to come in, because he was guaranteed to fix the defense. Fast forward to today and the Bills are a lot worse than they were last year on defense. No one is guaranteed to fix anything or be a savior. This is Quinn's first year as a head coach, first year with this team, and he has only one draft class/offseason to build this team. Before we go writing him off, let the man come here and do what he was paid to do and get off his back.

[Sidecar Falcon]

It all goes back to one of the first pages. Someone said that wheeler covering a wr was dumb b/c LBs shouldn't be asked to cover WRs, so vel pointed out that Davis covered Julio, and sdogg tried to argue that meant that vel was implying that wheeler and davis were on the same level.

It would've all been over real quick had sdogg just admitted that it's not bad for a coach to have a LB cover a WR, as long as they're capable, but he just wouldn't let it go lol.

Lol Yup, knee jerk reactions to coverages and defensive game plans are sometimes too hard for the average poster to comprehend. They usually respond with vitriol or accused the responding poster of claiming our player was equivalent to X player.

[Durrtay]

34-3 with a playoff spot on the line? Or 24-2 in an actual playoff game?

I wouldn't say far worse. Complete reset after one year has worked how many times?

It's a fruitless endeavor vel. It's the I want it now! Generation.

[Durrtay]

It takes WAY more than one year! ONE YEAR!!!

Seriously. Let's get a defense of NOT 1 yr contracts and see where we are.

[Da_Truth]

No one knows what kind of HC Austin would have made. Could've been better or worse. We'll never know.

[Durrtay]

And seriously, if yall haven't already noticed change happening you are blind. Too many people enchanted with high flying antics and gaudy numbers. When all is said and done, imo, our offense won't be what other teams are concerned about.

[KRUNKuno]

And seriously, if yall haven't already noticed change happening you are blind. Too many people enchanted with high flying antics and gaudy numbers. When all is said and done, imo, our offense won't be what other teams are concerned about.

The only changes I've seen are us becoming far worse offensively than ever due to an inept scheme from a coordinator that has no history of ever being worthwhile.

The same system and coordinator that was brought in by a first time head coach who has done more rah rah cheerleading than the cheerleaders themselves.

Quinn is a pawn.

[slamee101]

I still say it's 70/30 he's safe but things like this aren't good...

Arthur Blank gives Dan Quinn dreaded/welcome vote of confidence after 38-0 loss to Panthers

Votes of confidence for head coaches are either a good sign that an owner is standing behind his guy, or the first visible sign of unrest behind the scenes, the kind that spurs an owner to express a level of confidence he might not have. The problem is that we rarely know which is which until later.

Arthur Blank has given Dan Quin a vote of confidence, as you may have expected.

Blank was asked about Quinn's status in the context of an online story that mentioned numerous possible head-coaching vacancies following the 2015 season.

"I didn't read it. I didn't write it. I'm not thinking it,'' Blank said. "I don't know anything about it. And most importantly, I'm not thinking that."

[...]

"I've got complete confidence in Dan," Blank told ESPN.com following his team's

38-0 loss

to the undefeated

Carolina Panthers

. "He's going to be a great head coach for us for many years."

On one hand, it's patently absurd that this possibility has even come up, considering we knew Dan Quinn was not inheriting the perfect roster, and that the coach the Falconswaited a long while for isn't likely to be fired 13 games in, no matter how bad some of those games have been. On the other hand, of course, the Falcons just lost 38-0 to thePanthers and look absolutely dismal, and in a churn and burn era, you have to expect the question.

For my money, Blank's being straight with us here. He likely has no plans to hire a coach that wowed the organization, even if nobody in the front office or on Quinn's staff should be feeling particularly safe at the moment. It is worth remembering that plans can change quickly even for teams with good intentions, and if the Falcons are still a smashed-in pumpkin on top of a mound of garbage in 2016, we'll have to start weighing statements like these a little more carefully.

For now, the Falcons have to endure three more weeks of the 2015 season.

http://www.thefalcoholic.com/2015/12/14/10104708/arthur-blank-gives-dan-quinn-dreaded-welcome-vote-of-confidence-after

[falconstwopercentsized]

HOW MANY PRO BOWLS HAVE YOU BEEN TO? DO YOU HAVE A GOLD JACKET?

[Sidecar Falcon]

And seriously, if yall haven't already noticed change happening you are blind. Too many people enchanted with high flying antics and gaudy numbers. When all is said and done, imo, our offense won't be what other teams are concerned about.

In terms of defense, I have noticed a good change. Offense is struggling, not sure if Shanahan is the answer.

[PeytonMannings Forehead]

I saw Wheeler.... a linebacker try to cover Ginn...... a WR

A linebacker covering a wr

That is not talent.

Yep that is a straight up bad coaching issue.

Whatever makes you feel better about the decision to put Wheeler on Ginn. Thomas Davis>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wheeler. No debating it. But you can try.

For a good portion of this season, I have seen poster after poster scream about more blitzing from this staff to get more pressure on QBs. One of the main retorts is, if you blitz you'll just get gashed quicker. The response is usually a variation of "so what, we'll die firing our guns", or "fine, that'll give us the ball back quicker."

Well you wanted it, you got it. That play was a zone pressure, and sometimes when you zone pressure and the offense can get it picked up, you get less than ideal matchups.

Can't have it both ways guys. Coaches are damned it they do, damned it they don't.

And on another note... the coaching didn't put Wheeler on a WR. That was a function of the way the play unfolded. The call wasn't to man up the LB on receiver, that would be bad coaching.

The blitz was run out of a matchup zone concept. Wheeler was supposed to take the WR up the seam and pass him off to the safety #37.

The safety didn't do his job. I don't know if he got caught looking, or was just slow, but the safety should have picked up Ginn a lot sooner when he saw him go vertical and cross deep middle. In fact, I would have had him cheat more to that side when it was clear pre-snap that the inside slot would be against a LB.

Know what you're looking at before you criticize.

Edited December 14, 2015 by PeytonMannings Forehead

[thanat0s]

What? Are you guys really that nuts?

Then what's the point? Go ahead and fire Shanahan and Quinn. Let me tell you what that says. "We don't give you a chance to fully unpack. You come here and you will have to pack your family the same year you touch ground." Let me tell you bro, I know some guys who had teams do something very similar. They still haven't recovered.

Not sure why they went on a discarded Mike, but that's done. Like everything else, its over. He's gone. So is Koetter, Vick, Nolan, Reeves, Tuggle, and everyone else. This is now. I don't care about last year.

Your bitterness is showing, this is not how football works...you guys are ridiculous.

If you see bitterness in my post, your reading comprehension skills need work. I'm a realist and a natural skeptic.

I haven't said fire Quinn. I said don't hire him plenty. I'm a staunch believer in firing the QB killer. I'm also not just ignoring the fact that the golden child hired that train wreck, which seriously calls into question his judgment.

You might live in a state of perpetual str.eam of consciousness, where the past has no bearing on the now, but all that makes you is a never ending gobstopper of an apologist for every incompetent thing they do.

So, you guys keep waving those pom poms, and asking us to pay no attention to the long standing pattern of behavior that led us to 38-0 yesterday.

I, for one, expect better.