Quinn's Antics Have Worn Off Quickly

[vel]

Whatever makes you feel better dude. But I think you get it.

Nothing makes me feel better than making sdogg look like a fool on the internet. Lol

[slamee101]

I'm paraphrasing, but when he said "we need to get better, but won't do anything different", I knew the season was lost.

Great coaches adapt. If that means changing and adapting the scheme, you do what ever it takes to win.

He's become Jim Mora without the nifty NFCCG appearance.

How can you say that!?!?! You don't know that! You have to give him 3 years before you can make that kind of assessment!

Like I said elsewhere, he'll likely be here but I know he's not the guy. Feel pretty strongly about it anyway.

[sdogg]

Julio>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ginn

Let's not do the double standard thing here

So you think it was cool for Wheeler to cover Ginn? Gotcha

[sdogg]

Nothing makes me feel better than making sdogg look like a fool on the internet. Lol

Says the guy who thinks Wheeler shoukd cover Ginn. Okie dokie

[thanat0s]

It takes WAY more than one year! ONE YEAR!!!

Not if your name is Mike Smith...

[vel]

Says the guy who thinks Wheeler shoukd cover Ginn. Okie dokie

Lol find where I said that. The quotes are there. You won't find it. But we saw what you said!

[JD dirtybird21]

So you think it was cool for Wheeler to cover Ginn? Gotcha

Didn't say that. You are simply saying it's wrong for Wheeler to cover Ginn. But that it's RIGHT for Davis to cover Julio. It's the exact same scenario only both players are far more superior in one of them. You're kind of contradicting yourself

[Quarterback]

What you look for in coaching is progress. This progress comes in the form of talent assessment and subsequent upgrades, in-game, situational decision making, and universally respected leadership.

It's way too early to judge Dan Quinn as he has only had one draft and season to study his players and determine future needs. However, I will say this. The last couple of games have been disconcerting because of the mental mistakes, at times lethargic play (the Winston 19 yard run and the Alford quit on the route today). We are going to find out real quick over the last three games if this team is going to respond to Quinn & company. If they play hard and win or lose respectfully (unlike today) with great effort then I will be more optimistic. If, on the other hand, they continue to play as they have the past two weeks with so much on the line (the playoffs were there for the taking) then Mr. Quinn will deservedly be under the microscope the first few games next season. There is zero excuse for not showing up today against the Panthers. Quinn, in his post-game video, is quite visibly shell-shocked about his teams effort and performance today.

It isn't so much about the number of games or seasons; it's much more about the effort and progress in those games and seasons.

[sdogg]

Didn't say that. You are simply saying it's wrong for Wheeler to cover Ginn. But that it's RIGHT for Davis to cover Julio. It's the exact same scenario only both players are far more superior in one of them. You're kind of contradicting yourself

Whatever makes u 2 feel better. We all know you love these coaches and this GM of ours. Keep reaching.

[slamee101]

What you look for in coaching is progress. This progress comes in the form of talent assessment and subsequent upgrades, in-game, situational decision making, and universally respected leadership.

It's way too early to judge Dan Quinn as he has only had one draft and season to study his players and determine future needs. However, I will say this. The last couple of games have been disconcerting because of the mental mistakes, at times lethargic play (the Winston 19 yard run and the Alford quit on the route today). We are going to find out real quick over the last three games if this team is going to respond to Quinn & company. If they play hard and win or lose respectfully (unlike today) with great effort then I will be more optimistic. If, on the other hand, they continue to play as they have the past two weeks with so much on the line (the playoffs were there for the taking) then Mr. Quinn will deservedly be under the microscope the first few games next season. There is zero excuse for not showing up today against the Panthers. Quinn, in his post-game video, is quite visibly shell-shocked about his teams effort and performance today.

It isn't so much about the number of games or seasons; it's much more about the effort and progress in those games and seasons.

Here's my thing: We've been saying that for at least a month now. That's my issue. I don't think he has it in him to get this team to respond. Doesn't appear that way anyway. No real changes in personnel, can't see where the offensive game plan has changed. I just don't think he really knows what to do. Seems overwhelmed.

If I'm wrong I'll eat my crow but I tend to be right about these things.

[falconsd56]

I saw Thomas Davis... a linebacker... try to cover Julio.... a WR

And succeeded.

And you saw a route that was much easier to defend.

[ManInBlack]

This feels a lot like the end of the Mora era. Players coach, but lots of mistakes and no discipline.

[vel]

And you saw a route that was much easier to defend.

If they knew Ginn was running a deep post, I'm pretty sure they would have called it off.

Every defense has LBs covering WRs at one point or another during the game. You hope it's something they can manage.

Again, you said it's not a matter of talent. SDogg said it was bad coaching, but now somehow there are all of these stipulations tied to it.

[sdogg]

And you saw a route that was much easier to defend.

They don't get it. They still feel Shannahan is awesome.

[sdogg]

If they knew Ginn was running a deep post, I'm pretty sure they would have called it off.

Every defense has LBs covering WRs at one point or another during the game. You hope it's something they can manage.

Again, you said it's not a matter of talent. SDogg said it was bad coaching, but now somehow there are all of these stipulations tied to it.

Keep reaching

[vel]

Quinn has never been in this situation. He is a first year head coach with everything going wrong around him. Every week, we think we've hit rock bottom, until the next game comes.

I agree thought QB, if we don't see better effort over the next three games, Quinn's first 5-8 games next season will be critical.

Keep reaching

Are my nuts clean yet?

[Knight of God]

Not if your name is Mike Smith...

He's not coaching presently but how did Belichick do his first year in Boston? Tell me about Carroll's first two years. How about Coughlin? I want to know about SB winners, not a guy who only won ONE playoff game. Last two years in the offense people miss so much, we had how many winning season's? I think the record for that particular scheme was 1-2. Sean Peyton struggled year two. It wasn't back to back right away and definitely not a house of cards, they stayed contenders for a while. McCarthy was up and down the first two years.

You guys are thinking like adolescent children here. If you want a house of cards again, then I get it. I'd rather have adversity in the beginning than the end.

[sdogg]

What you look for in coaching is progress. This progress comes in the form of talent assessment and subsequent upgrades, in-game, situational decision making, and universally respected leadership.

It's way too early to judge Dan Quinn as he has only had one draft and season to study his players and determine future needs. However, I will say this. The last couple of games have been disconcerting because of the mental mistakes, at times lethargic play (the Winston 19 yard run and the Alford quit on the route today). We are going to find out real quick over the last three games if this team is going to respond to Quinn & company. If they play hard and win or lose respectfully (unlike today) with great effort then I will be more optimistic. If, on the other hand, they continue to play as they have the past two weeks with so much on the line (the playoffs were there for the taking) then Mr. Quinn will deservedly be under the microscope the first few games next season. There is zero excuse for not showing up today against the Panthers. Quinn, in his post-game video, is quite visibly shell-shocked about his teams effort and performance today.

It isn't so much about the number of games or seasons; it's much more about the effort and progress in those games and seasons.

Well said

[sdogg]

Quinn has never been in this situation. He is a first year head coach with everything going wrong around him. Every week, we think we've hit rock bottom, until the next game comes.

I agree thought QB, if we don't see better effort over the next three games, Quinn's first 5-8 games next season will be critical.

Are my nuts clean yet?

Gay!

Quinn has never been in this situation. He is a first year head coach with everything going wrong around him. Every week, we think we've hit rock bottom, until the next game comes.

I agree thought QB, if we don't see better effort over the next three games, Quinn's first 5-8 games next season will be critical.

Are my nuts clean yet?

Um ok.

[Jesus]

Julio is running routes where he can be manhandled with in 5 yards. Meanwhile every other team runs routes where their #1 is in a place where if he is touched flags fly. Why do we not take advantage of Julio being the best receiver in football and getting the calls he deserves?

Ted Ginn gets those calls for crying out loud.

[sdogg]

Julio is running routes where he can be manhandled with in 5 yards. Meanwhile every other team runs routes where their #1 is in a place where if he is touched flags fly. Why do we not take advantage of Julio being the best receiver in football and getting the calls he deserves?

Ted Ginn gets those calls for crying out loud.

Nah, Wheeler is just awesome!!! Purple

[Jesus]

He's not coaching presently but how did Belichick do his first year in Boston? Tell me about Carroll's first two years. How about Coughlin? I want to know about SB winners, not a guy who only won ONE playoff game. Last two years in the offense people miss so much, we had how many winning season's? I think the record for that particular scheme was 1-2. Sean Peyton struggled year two. It wasn't back to back right away and definitely not a house of cards, they stayed contenders for a while. McCarthy was up and down the first two years.

You guys are thinking like adolescent children here. If you want a house of cards again, then I get it. I'd rather have adversity in the beginning than the end.

Difference is we started out 5-0 and are now 1-7. Its not like we are seeing a team struggling or trying to get back in, they are quitting. If that was reversed and we started out 1-7 but were riding a win streak then we could see growth. Sure its year one but it is not ending well. Each week they just quit more and more. Then you see the offense the one piece that should keep it close put out a horrible game plan. It does feel like tanking when it isn't.

[TeamPlayer1]

Quinn needs to replace at least 40% of the roster with good players either through FA or the draft. If we stick with anything near this roster on O or D we will have a similar result next year.

[thanat0s]

He's not coaching presently but how did Belichick do his first year in Boston? Tell me about Carroll's first two years. How about Coughlin? I want to know about SB winners, not a guy who only won ONE playoff game. Last two years in the offense people miss so much, we had how many winning season's? I think the record for that particular scheme was 1-2. Sean Peyton struggled year two. It wasn't back to back right away and definitely not a house of cards, they stayed contenders for a while. McCarthy was up and down the first two years.

You guys are thinking like adolescent children here. If you want a house of cards again, then I get it. I'd rather have adversity in the beginning than the end.

You act like this is the exception rather than the rule. What about this organization offers evidence that Quinn just needs a little time?

I can show you multiple times where this franchise has ditched our most successful coaches only to become a dumpster fire.

The culture has not changed in the 40 years I've been watching. Ownership has never had the patience, loyalty or vision to remain competitive for long stretches.

Does anybody believe that the Steelers would've fired Smith, Reeves or Bennett after what they accomplished? They would've figured it out together.

If Blank dumped the coach who produced unprecedented winning simply because he had to rebuild, why should I care about this unknown rookie? Odds are very strong that he's headed to the unemployment line sooner than later.

Then you guys will be telling me the next coach is the one, not Quinn.

[sdogg]

Difference is we started out 5-0 and are now 1-7. Its not like we are seeing a team struggling or trying to get back in, they are quitting. If that was reversed and we started out 1-7 but were riding a win streak then we could see growth. Sure its year one but it is not ending well. Each week they just quit more and more. Then you see the offense the one piece that should keep it close put out a horrible game plan. It does feel like tanking when it isn't.

Team is clearly regressing and clearly not buying into what Quinn is selling. I think it's mostly his idiotic hire of Shannahan.