Begotten912 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) Anybody else shocked to learn this? Another quick glance at the team stats page says we're also 11th in overall defense (YPG) and the 5th ranked offense. The last time I checked around week 6 or so, we were ranked something like the 21st defense. Wow. Much confuse. Edited December 3, 2015 by Begotten912 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK Manley Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 It's largely due to touchdowns IMO. I've noticed before that our fantasy points allowed were skewed due to a disproportionate number of touchdowns. The run defense is top 10 in yardage, but has given up the 2nd most rushing touchdowns. The pass defense is about middle of the pack in yardage, but gives up the 6th fewest touchdowns.TD numbers can sometimes be misleading (i.e. Julio going down at the 1 yard line several times in the last year or so). Since TDs heavily affect fantasy points, they can lead to similar faulty conclusions, especially with a small sample size.Yardage is often considered a better indicator, and our yardage numbers are more in line with the eyeball test, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octoslash Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Why use the wideout when your tight end is out there every week slaughtering the Falcons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Why use the wideout when your tight end is out there every week slaughtering the Falcons?That ain't true either. Only 1 TE had a huge game and that was the NO game. Rudolph had a decent game but he was only 7 for 53 that's it. The only TE to SNIFF 100 yards was NO's TE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I've been saying this each week. Nobody wants to listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzard_falcon Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Not surprised at all. Opposing QBs ignore their outside/perimeters WRs against us and heavily target their RBs, TEs, and slot WRs. It's a combination of shying away from Trufant, and the fact that Quinn's scheme wants to force teams to do this. Hence all the short throws and quick timing passes, which also negate our ability to rush and affect the passer.Unfortunately, we lack the speed and coverage ability at linebacker to cover the middle of the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK Manley Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Why use the wideout when your tight end is out there every week slaughtering the Falcons?This is part of it too, along with giving up short passes to RBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Not surprised at all. Opposing QBs ignore their outside/perimeters WRs against us and heavily target their TEs, RBs, and slot WRs.It's a combination of shying away from Trufant, and the fact that Quinn's scheme wants to force teams to do this.Unfortunately, we lack the speed and coverage ability at linebacker to cover the middle of the field.Check the stats. Only 1 TE had a really good game(New Orleans) and the RB's have been tamed. Haven't given up 300 yards since Adams was benched and only 1 200 yard game and that was Indy. Slot wr's aren't doing anything either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 This is part of it too, along with giving up short passes to RBs.Only TE's aren't slaughtering the falcons. Only 1 did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domed Outter Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 That is excellent considering how many extra possessions the offense is gifting them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungHeezy Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Why use the wideout when your tight end is out there every week slaughtering the Falcons?Can you name the ones that have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK Manley Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Only TE's aren't slaughtering the falcons. Only 1 did.I didn't say slaughtering...I said it was part of it. They've allowed the 8th most fantasy points to TEs.Anyway, I still contend that it's largely due to a disproportionate number of rush and pass TDs. They're not skewed as bad as they were earlier in the season, but still seem skewed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octoslash Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Anyway, defense is hardly the reason they're 1-4 of late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby.Digital Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Fantasy stats done tell the whole story. We're the 3rd worst team against the run fantasy wise even though we're top 10 in "real life". It has to do with touchdowns like PK Manley said. I remember DeMarco Murray had like 14 carries for 9 yards but he had 2 TDs which fantasy wise made our rush defense look bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 TE's we faced Ertz 3-46Celek 1-6Donnell 4-28 1 TDWitten 6-65Fiedorowicz 3-28 1 TD 1 fumbleCarrier 2-27 1 TDWatson 10-127 1 TDWalker 7-55Fasano 3-21Brate 2-48 1 TDMyers 3-32McDonald 2-19Celek 2-12 2 TDFleener 3-45Rudolph 7-53So clearly only 1TE had a field day on us and we were missing Durant and Allen and Adams was still starting. TE's will get some catches in the seam which is the weakness of cover 3 but Allen seems to have figured out to not fall for the pump fake to clear out the seam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Anyway, defense is hardly the reason they're 1-4 of late.Most definitely true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-TowN.- Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Why use the wideout when your tight end is out there every week slaughtering the Falcons?What Tightends are slaughtering us? Some fans just like to make **** up I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octoslash Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I'm not consciously 'making **** up'...I guess that ONE tight end that humiliated us just stuck in my mind, that's all. Shell-shocked me into a misguided perception. LOL 'make **** up" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAD597 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 The defense has been good all around this year especially considering the bad positions the offense puts them in due to turnovers. If we had this defense in 2012 we'd have won the SB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentayeJones Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I see folks still are making stuff up when talking about opposing TEs. Watson was the only one that has had a good game. There are things to complain about but at least be accurate about them and dont make things up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-TowN.- Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I'm not consciously 'making **** up'...I guess that ONE tight end that humiliated us just stuck in my mind, that's all. Shell-shocked me into a misguided perception. LOL 'make **** up"How is that not making it up? You made a claim that wasn't true. Cmon now you made it up in your own mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK Manley Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 You guys are really harsh about the tight end thing...jeez, lol.You're right that only one tight end has had a big game, but they haven't been great against tight ends this year as a whole, so I can see why someone would think it was more than that.Check the stats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 You guys are really harsh about the tight end thing...jeez, lol.You're right that only one tight end has had a big game, but they haven't been great against tight ends this year as a whole, so I can see why someone would think it was more than that.Check the statsThat's fantasy. I watch reality football. Even tho I play fan duel I can separate the fantasy from reality. A TE scoring a TD in reality doesn't mean he had a great day, which is a good day in fantasy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK Manley Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 That's fantasy. I watch reality football. Even tho I play fan duel I can separate the fantasy from reality. A TE scoring a TD in reality doesn't mean he had a great day, which is a good day in fantasy.I mean, the thread is based on fantasy points, but the link I posted also includes actual stats where we allow a high number of catches, yards, and TDs to tight ends. I'm not saying to jump to the conclusion that we suck at defending tight ends, but the stats are the stats, just like the individual stats you posted earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtybird56 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Allen seems to have figured out to not fall for the pump fake to clear out the seam.Allen took a **** on Bridgewater's pump fake when he made that INT on the throw to the TE. Didnt bite in the slightest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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