Steel City Falcon Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Let me start by stating I really like Dan Quinn as the HC.Let me follow by stating he should have never been hired with TD and his staff in place. This team and Front Office needed to be blown up and restarted under a completely new regime. There was no reason to leave a lame duck GM and his staff in place. It can only lead to turmoil. Because now if they fire TD, run Pioli out of town(which will happen), and hire a new GM. That guy will have to start his career with a HC that isn't "his guy".I wasn't expecting much more than 6/7 wins this season with this current roster. No matter how much faith they had in Dan Quinn. Coaching can only take you so far. YOU NEED TALENT.And it saddens me to say this but outside of Julio,Trufant, Ryan(yes I still believe in Matt Ryan), *Freeman, and some very raw young players (Matthews,Freeman and Beasley). I don't see a lot of talent on this roster. Yes we've seen flashes from guys like Haggeman, Allen, and sometimes Alford.This roster is riddled failed experiments and poor free agent acquisitions like Holmes, Konz and Southward(gone now), Soliai, Jackson, etc...This team has one of the worst rosters top to bottom and probably the worst scouting/evaluation programs in the NFL. This falls squarely on the shoulders of the GM, Assistant GM, Director of College Scouting, and the Director of Football Operations. In order for this team to turn things around they need to completely clean out that front office and start new. Looking to teams like the Packers, Steelers, Seahawks, and Ravens who have done a decently consistent job at acquiring talent over the past couple of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 It would be so much easier if people understood that they couldn't make a complete overhaul in one season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDaveG Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 It would be so much easier if people understood that they couldn't make a complete overhaul in one season.The problem is that people expected the offense to be okay. The learning curve is more than anyone expected, and that includes people like me who knew there would be one. I figured by mid-season Ryan would be clicking. He's still floundering. That's a surprise, I think.If you isolate it by unit, the defense is much further along than anyone could have reasonably expected, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quotemokc Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Allen has been pretty darn good for a 5th round pick who only just made the swap to safety this year.Soliai has been a pretty good aquisition also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdz4i Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 It would be so much easier if people understood that they couldn't make a complete overhaul in one season.but but that would require patience. you know that is not allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gritz Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 The 5-0 start threw a lot of fans off...myself included. Not that I thought this was a Superbowl team after that, I didn't...but I didn't see this death spiral coming they're in either.This losing streak has brought up some things that I didn't really foresee as issues regarding this offense and Ryan.Unlike many who post on here I don't pretend to have the answer(s). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 The problem is that people expected the offense to be okay. The learning curve is more than anyone expected, and that includes people like me who knew there would be one. I figured by mid-season Ryan would be clicking. He's still floundering. That's a surprise, I think.If you isolate it by unit, the defense is much further along than anyone could have reasonably expected, I think.the only reason people expected the offense to be okay is because they believe Matt ryan is elite. Not a soul, maybe a very small hand full, expected the run game to even be half solid. That's what happens when you base every opinion on past success and also by letting winning fool you. This team has had problems for years and strangely people thought Quinn would correct every issue overnight and let the 5-0 start build up false expectations. That's just how it goes. I'll never allow myself to reach that pointbut but that would require patience. you know that is not allowed. I play by my own rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 the only reason people expected the offense to be okay is because they believe Matt ryan is elite. Not a soul, maybe a very small hand full, expected the run game to even be half solid. That's what happens when you base every opinion on past success and also by letting winning fool you. This team has had problems for years and strangely people thought Quinn would correct every issue overnight and let the 5-0 start build up false expectations. That's just how it goes. I'll never allow myself to reach that pointI play by my own rules.Almost completely agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Let me start by stating I really like Dan Quinn as the HC.Let me follow by stating he should have never been hired with TD and his staff in place. This team and Front Office needed to be blown up and restarted under a completely new regime. There was no reason to leave a lame duck GM and his staff in place. It can only lead to turmoil. Because now if they fire TD, run Pioli out of town(which will happen), and hire a new GM. That guy will have to start his career with a HC that isn't "his guy".I wasn't expecting much more than 6/7 wins this season with this current roster. No matter how much faith they had in Dan Quinn. Coaching can only take you so far. YOU NEED TALENT.And it saddens me to say this but outside of Julio,Trufant, Ryan(yes I still believe in Matt Ryan), *Freeman, and some very raw young players (Matthews,Freeman and Beasley). I don't see a lot of talent on this roster. Yes we've seen flashes from guys like Haggeman, Allen, and sometimes Alford.This roster is riddled failed experiments and poor free agent acquisitions like Holmes, Konz and Southward(gone now), Soliai, Jackson, etc...This team has one of the worst rosters top to bottom and probably the worst scouting/evaluation programs in the NFL. This falls squarely on the shoulders of the GM, Assistant GM, Director of College Scouting, and the Director of Football Operations. In order for this team to turn things around they need to completely clean out that front office and start new. Looking to teams like the Packers, Steelers, Seahawks, and Ravens who have done a decently consistent job at acquiring talent over the past couple of years. I'm sorry but this post is absolutely horrendous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconcrest58 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Fire TD....OP is dead on the money. TD will be fired at end of season and the new GM will want his coach and staff. AB loves his puppet TD.....JUST STATING THE FACTS! My apologies to the TD nut huggers..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconcrest58 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 I'm sorry but this post is absolutely horrendous.I think it's on point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlantafan21 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Alford's been playing like a top 10 corner this year bro, he deserves to be talked about as one of the best players on this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E. T. Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Let me start by stating I really like Dan Quinn as the HC.Let me follow by stating he should have never been hired with TD and his staff in place. This team and Front Office needed to be blown up and restarted under a completely new regime. There was no reason to leave a lame duck GM and his staff in place. It can only lead to turmoil. Because now if they fire TD, run Pioli out of town(which will happen), and hire a new GM. That guy will have to start his career with a HC that isn't "his guy".I wasn't expecting much more than 6/7 wins this season with this current roster. No matter how much faith they had in Dan Quinn. Coaching can only take you so far. YOU NEED TALENT.And it saddens me to say this but outside of Julio,Trufant, Ryan(yes I still believe in Matt Ryan), *Freeman, and some very raw young players (Matthews,Freeman and Beasley). I don't see a lot of talent on this roster. Yes we've seen flashes from guys like Haggeman, Allen, and sometimes Alford.This roster is riddled failed experiments and poor free agent acquisitions like Holmes, Konz and Southward(gone now), Soliai, Jackson, etc...This team has one of the worst rosters top to bottom and probably the worst scouting/evaluation programs in the NFL. This falls squarely on the shoulders of the GM, Assistant GM, Director of College Scouting, and the Director of Football Operations. In order for this team to turn things around they need to completely clean out that front office and start new. Looking to teams like the Packers, Steelers, Seahawks, and Ravens who have done a decently consistent job at acquiring talent over the past couple of years. But TD and Pioli are former patriot hires... No other team has been more consistent than the pats. There is just more to your story than you think. Its the ATL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconJim Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Let me start by stating I really like Dan Quinn as the HC.Let me follow by stating he should have never been hired with TD and his staff in place. This team and Front Office needed to be blown up and restarted under a completely new regime. There was no reason to leave a lame duck GM and his staff in place. It can only lead to turmoil. Because now if they fire TD, run Pioli out of town(which will happen), and hire a new GM. That guy will have to start his career with a HC that isn't "his guy".I wasn't expecting much more than 6/7 wins this season with this current roster. No matter how much faith they had in Dan Quinn. Coaching can only take you so far. YOU NEED TALENT.And it saddens me to say this but outside of Julio,Trufant, Ryan(yes I still believe in Matt Ryan), *Freeman, and some very raw young players (Matthews,Freeman and Beasley). I don't see a lot of talent on this roster. Yes we've seen flashes from guys like Haggeman, Allen, and sometimes Alford.This roster is riddled failed experiments and poor free agent acquisitions like Holmes, Konz and Southward(gone now), Soliai, Jackson, etc...This team has one of the worst rosters top to bottom and probably the worst scouting/evaluation programs in the NFL. This falls squarely on the shoulders of the GM, Assistant GM, Director of College Scouting, and the Director of Football Operations. In order for this team to turn things around they need to completely clean out that front office and start new. Looking to teams like the Packers, Steelers, Seahawks, and Ravens who have done a decently consistent job at acquiring talent over the past couple of years. Thank you, for your opinion --- seems well thought out --- and without going into some long drawn out discussion, I'll just say that I agree on some points, and disagree on others. Simply put, if we had not had the fumbles & interceptions we've had this year, we probably wouldn't even be having this conversation, and would likely be 9-2 --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzfrow Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 The problem is that people expected the offense to be okay. The learning curve is more than anyone expected, and that includes people like me who knew there would be one. I figured by mid-season Ryan would be clicking. He's still floundering. That's a surprise, I think.If you isolate it by unit, the defense is much further along than anyone could have reasonably expected, I think.Yep they fix one problem and get the defense finally headed in the right direction and then the offense goes to sh*t. It's like you fix the roof and then the floors start to sag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insight Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 (edited) I am convinced Les Snead was they guy who knew how to identify talent once he left TD has been grasping at straws trying to build this roster. The Rams roster it's solid with loads of talent while we have holes everywhere. Edited December 1, 2015 by insight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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