KRUNKuno Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 On the pistol run to terron ward. After the play Julio looked agitated and confused with the play call.After the Barr hit on Ryan that all but ended the game, you could see Julio on the sidelines talking to Hester with both agitation and disgust. He was gesturing his hands as if to show the routes ran then ended with the much needed i-dont-know shoulder shrug. Julio goes to bat for Matt so i doubt he'd be disgusted with him. Roddy has been on a gag order, but when he did speak he criticized the offense for being too slow developing. My take is that Shanahan's routes take too long to develop. With pressure from the defense, long developing routes will always be defended. Our key players do not like this offense. The connection with our offensive stars and Shanahan is as cold as our offensive production. Matt hasnt helped, but when routes are clashing with one another and confusion fills the faces of all involved to me it's clear that Shanahan is the problem. This is not the match made in heaven a lot of you thought it would be. We have a quarterback who is being restricted thus casuing chaos all across the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opensource01 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Shannahan is terrible. Hopefully Dimitroff can give him a ride when they are both fired at the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastiemike Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Good post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andras Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Good postAgreed.It's more than just turnovers and "learning blues." It's something deeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 The Vikings said it all. Take away his first read and he struggles. That's what Mike Zimmer said. Blame Kyle all you want but Ryan is the one throwing dumb ints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Beast Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Julio was mad and rightfully so. But Ryan made the pre snap decision to throw to Ward and the defense knew it. Once a defense shows blitz, Ryan will scan the field pre snap for the best quick throw and sticks with his decision no matter what. That is very predictable for any defense. Actually there are baiting him into those plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosts of Glanville Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Shanahans system doesn't work with our talent and the players know it. If Quinn doesn't step in we could update have a full blown sideline incident in a week or two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Beast Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 (edited) The Vikings said it all. Take away his first read and he struggles. That's what Mike Zimmer said. Blame Kyle all you want but Ryan is the one throwing dumb ints.You know, I never fully realized why we went all in to trade for Julio Jones. But after all, Matt Ryan needs an allpro first read to make his completions, purely based on the individual class of the receiver. He had Roddy but he started to fade a bit even some years ago. Tony G was about to retire.The Julio trade was not made to open up the playbook, it was made to keep a simplified playbook. Edited November 29, 2015 by Herr Beast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Truth Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 The Vikings said it all. Take away his first read and he struggles. That's what Mike Zimmer said. Blame Kyle all you want but Ryan is the one throwing dumb ints.Ryan completely PANICS under pressure. He doesn't have the ballz to stand in the pocket and deliver the ball. I've watched him prematurely leave the pocket many times the minute he feels pressure. He's done...stick a fork in him! Falcons better bring in a QB to compete for the starting position next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Falcon Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 But some here (who's name they don't want me to call out) thinks Shanahan isn't the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Beast Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Ryan completely PANICS under pressure. He doesn't have the ballz to stand in the pocket and deliver the ball. I've watched him prematurely leave the pocket many times the minute he feels pressure. He's done...stick a fork in him! Falcons better bring in a QB to compete for the starting position next year.Said it many times, watch his body, face and eyes under pressure. It is never someone who is in control of the situation. His eyes always were shouting panic as big as they get. But now his head turns into a tomato too, it is hilarious to watch. That is how someone looks who realizes he is in the wrong place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCFalconfan Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Shanahans system doesn't work with our talent and the players know it. If Quinn doesn't step in we could update have a full blown sideline incident in a week or twoIts coming. You saw the pre-cursor to it today with Jones' agitation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rock Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Top 10 offense and Shananhan is terrible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcanuck Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Ryan completely PANICS under pressure. He doesn't have the ballz to stand in the pocket and deliver the ball. I've watched him prematurely leave the pocket many times the minute he feels pressure. He's done...stick a fork in him! Falcons better bring in a QB to compete for the starting position next year.Lol. That isn't Ryan's problem. He has plenty "ballz". He is just not grasping the new system as seamlessly as he probably expected and is playing like an idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AEFalcon Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Agree. I think frustration shown by Julio (& Roddy's comments a few weeks ago) were directed to Shanny. I do not think Shanny's offense fits the personnel especially Matt Ryan. So the its either change a bunch of personnel or the coordinator. My problem with Shanny is he seems to be to arrogant to change. Noy=t major changes......Just run quick tempo in certain situations, let Ryan call the play after determining def; throw quicker routes etc. And finally, you cant have a talent like Julio and not get the him involved in the offense with quick slants, screens with a mattering of deep routes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domed Outter Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Its coming. You saw the pre-cursor to it today with Jones' agitation.Should have happened weeks ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcanuck Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Said it many times, watch his body, face and eyes under pressure. It is never someone who is in control of the situation. His eyes always were shouting panic as big as they get. But now his head turns into a tomato too, it is hilarious to watch. That is how someone looks who realizes he is in the wrong place.Lmao try standing in to deliver a pass with Anthony Barr coming in at you untouched after 0.5 seconds. Also: Matt Ryan is playing like ****, but let's keep it real. Dude's a warrior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastiemike Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Top 10 offense and Shananhan is terrible?Last week people were advising stats didn't matter. Now that has changed and stats are everything? Come on. Make up your mind. If you are going to tout a top 10 offense, Ryan led that and also had the longest active 250+ yard consecutive streak at 17 that ended today. He was also the only QB to throw for 250+ yards in every game this season until today when he threw for 230.If you are going to use stats to support Shanahan, you can't discount them when debating about Ryan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faithful Falcon Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Maybe we can bring Mark Richt in as out OC? He runs a pro style Offense. Always has throughout his entire coaching career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgarsmoker Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Said it many times, watch his body, face and eyes under pressure. It is never someone who is in control of the situation. His eyes always were shouting panic as big as they get. But now his head turns into a tomato too, it is hilarious to watch. That is how someone looks who realizes he is in the wrong place.That has been the formula Carolina has used against Ryan for the past couple of seasons. Ryan is a good QB when he can stand in the pocket with time to throw but if you constantly pressure him, he will fold like a lawn chair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcanuck Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Anyone remember this game????Yeah, Matt Ryan really folded here. Couldn't even deliver a throw with pressure up in his grill. Lawn Chair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 The Vikings said it all. Take away his first read and he struggles. That's what Mike Zimmer said. Blame Kyle all you want but Ryan is the one throwing dumb ints.It's just that simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungHeezy Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 So when did Ryan start struggling when you take away his first read? Just this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Falcon Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Kyle is a control freak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slamee101 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 It's very clear that Julio is frustrated and he's not the only one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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