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No need to talk about the O because they are their only problem. Just looking at defenses compared to ours.

Bills- Dareus, Williams, Williams, Williams, Darby, Gilmore, Hughes, Lawson.

Jets- Wilkerson, Richardson, Harrison, Williams, Revis, Pryor, Skrine, Cromartie.

Miami- Suh, Wake, Mitchell, Vernon, Johnson, Grimes, Delmas.

Panthers- Keek, Davis, Starr, Short, Big Money, Norman, Peanut.

Seahawks- Avril, Bennet, Wagner, Membane, Wright, Kam, Earl, Sherman, Irvin

Broncos- Talib, Miller, Ware, Williams, Harris Jr, Roby.

Rams- Long, Quinn, Donald, Fairley, Kendall, Ogletree, Laurunitis.

Vikings- Rhodes, Smith, Barr, Robinson, Griffin, Joseph, Kendricks.

Even though our defense is playing average to good with a azz load of luck at times. I'm still not impressed much, while we aren't getting blew off the ball like past years we just don't look as imposing or physical as other defenses. I credit that too lack of talent compared to the better Ds we don't have near the talent.

Falcons- Trufant, Beasley, Jarrett, Schofield.

Hageman, as good as he's been playing he's still some what underwhelming for the hype he came with.

Durant, not durable enough to count.

So outside of the Truu, Vic, Scho & Grady we still aren't talented compared to others. Desperately need an injection of talent rather it be from the draft or FA next season on this side.

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The thing is, we have invested a lot on offense, and ad a result, yeah, we could use more talent on the defensive side of the ball. Compare the offensive players of those teams you posted and see how they stack up to us.

Point is, its not likely for a team to be stacked with talent on both sides of the ball.

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The thing is, we have invested a lot on offense, and ad a result, yeah, we could use more talent on the defensive side of the ball. Compare the offensive players of those teams you posted and see how they stack up to us.

Point is, its not likely for a team to be stacked with talent on both sides of the ball.

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The thing is, we have invested a lot on offense, and ad a result, yeah, we could use more talent on the defensive side of the ball. Compare the offensive players of those teams you posted and see how they stack up to us.

Point is, its not likely for a team to be stacked with talent on both sides of the ball.

That's the thing all listed have adequate offensive talent they may not be all on the same page but it's there, much like our offense now. Aren't performing to its potential.

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Notice, you only named 7 teams. Most of those teams focused primarily on building their defenses initially (Rams, Seahawks, Panthers, Jets). The Vikings as well. We haven't because we had more weapons on the offense. I doubt we'd trade for the Jets, Vikings, Dolphins, Rams, and Panthers offensive weapons.

We're getting to being a lot more balanced. That's the good thing. We have a set scheme and know what players will fit. It's coming. We're already #10 in yards per game and #13 in points allowed.

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That's the thing all listed have adequate offensive talent they may not be all on the same page but it's there, much like our offense now. Aren't performing to its potential.

Falcons are stacked on O. The only team you listed within arguments reach is the broncos, imo. Broncos and Bengals are the only 2 teams i can think of that have a lot of talent on both sides.

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Talent is the single most overrated variable in the NFL.

Scheme and coaching trump talent. It's about knowing how to use the talent you have. The talent drop offs from team to team across the NFL is negligible. It's a factor, but it's not the end all be all. The talent on this team could as easily be 9-0, as it could 6-3, as it could be 3-6. Every team has holes. But you need to know how to scheme around them, and compensate.

Look at the Pats. Nobody looked at most of their roster coming out as "elite talent", yet they play elite football. They are playing a TE at RT because they keep losing OLmen to injuries. This is what drives me mad when people pile on the FO.

This isn't the NBA, where you can win championships with one or two elite players.

It's about motivating, scheming, teaching, and preparing the talent you have.

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The thing is, we have invested a lot on offense, and ad a result, yeah, we could use more talent on the defensive side of the ball. Compare the offensive players of those teams you posted and see how they stack up to us.

Point is, its not likely for a team to be stacked with talent on both sides of the ball.

That's what the NFL's competitive balance is geared to accomplish and it works pretty well. However, the top teams find a way to get enough of a talent edge on both sides of the ball to bring home a Lombardi Trophy. If the Falcons want their own Lombardi, they have to figure out how to improve their talent level everywhere.

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Talent is the single most overrated variable in the NFL.

Scheme and coaching trump talent. It's about knowing how to use the talent you have. The talent drop offs from team to team across the NFL is negligible. It's a factor, but it's not the end all be all. The talent on this team could as easily be 9-0, as it could 6-3, as it could be 3-6. Every team has holes. But you need to know how to scheme around them, and compensate.

Look at the Pats. Nobody looked at most of their roster coming out as "elite talent", yet they play elite football. They are playing a TE at RT because they keep losing OLmen to injuries. This is what drives me mad when people pile on the FO.

This isn't the NBA, where you can win championships with one or two elite players.

It's about motivating, scheming, teaching, and preparing the talent you have.

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The thing is, we have invested a lot on offense, and ad a result, yeah, we could use more talent on the defensive side of the ball. Compare the offensive players of those teams you posted and see how they stack up to us.

Point is, its not likely for a team to be stacked with talent on both sides of the ball.

While I agree 100%, I think this team is at a cross roads for the next year or two. Believe it or not, we have a chance to actually upgrade this roster to the point where we could have elite talent on both sides. Now, this said, it's going to require some pretty tricky execution when it congress to player acquisitions and drafting. The opportunity is there though, and I'm praying the front office and Dan Quinn sees it the same way.
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Our offense really isn't as talented as its hyped up to be like when we had ...

Matt/Julio/McClure/Clabo/Roddy/Turner/Gonzo

Matt/Julio/Freeman/Matthews are legit studs.

You can take a team I listed & make a quality debate on how their O is just as talented as ours.

For example

Carolina

Cam/Stewart/Olsen/Khalil not to mention KB.

Jets

Ivory/Marshall/Decker/Mangold/Ferguson

Bills

Watkins/Williams/McCoy/Taylor

Vikings

Bridgewater/AP/Khalil/Rudolph/Wallace

Rams

Foles/Gurley/Austin/Cook/Welker(new toy)

They aren't so offensive deficient as you all think from spending money on the defense.

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Our offense really isn't as talented as its hyped up to be.

Matt/Julio/Freeman/Matthews are legit studs.

You can take a team I listed & make a quality debate on how their O is just as talented as ours.

For example

Carolina

Cam/Stewart/Olsen/Khalil not to mention KB.

Jets

Ivory/Marshall/Decker/Mangold/Ferguson

Bills

Watkins/Williams/McCoy/Taylor

Vikings

Bridgewater/AP/Khalil/Rudolph/Wallace

They aren't so defensive built as you all think.

QB who has been top 7-10 for most of his career, and arguably the best wide receiver and runningback in the league right now. None of those teams have two of THE BEST players at their position. Vikes have AP, but he's the only one out of those listed that can be argued for the best at their respective positions. Edit: Also Jets with Mangold, although if he's regressed or not. Edited by Atlantafan21
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QB who has been top 7-10 for most of his career, and arguably the best wide receiver and runningback in the league right now. None of those teams have two of THE BEST players at their position. Vikes have AP, but he's the only one out of those listed that can be argued for the best at their respective positions. Edit: Also Jets with Mangold, although if he's regressed or not.

Quanity over quality in football...

Stafford was a top 10 QB with the best WR in football and that didn't net them much. It's always quality over quantity.

I'd much rather have 6 good players than 2 elite players at their position. This isn't knocking our guys either just football talk.

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The thing is, we have invested a lot on offense, and ad a result, yeah, we could use more talent on the defensive side of the ball. Compare the offensive players of those teams you posted and see how they stack up to us.

Point is, its not likely for a team to be stacked with talent on both sides of the ball.

Good point.

All we need is a good Dline and that would mask the back end of our defense. We dont need to be stacked at every position.

Good Offense + good D line = good team

Good Offense + weak D line = get beat in playoffs + lose to poor QBs

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