jlrfalcon Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 The biggest thing I miss about Smith was that he would always take the ball first when we won the toss. Quinn is obviously the opposite.Take the ball -1) You give your offense time to put up points before the other team even touches it2) You will get 2 series in 1st Quarter and a chance to at least score in one of the two3) You could have a returned kickoff and immediately go up 7-04) You could have a long 10 minute drive to score and really have the other team down5) Your offense can immediately show off any plays they have practiced all weekGive the other team the ball -1) You get the ball first in Q3 which is good if you are down but this says you expect the team to be down?2) It could be meaningless if you are already down by a large amount3) Your defense might hold the other team and you get good field position after a punt but the other team could drive to the 50 before you stop them and you are instead pinned at the 10 yard line when you first get the ballWhy do we always give the other team the ball especially when our offense is considered to be our better side? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domed Outter Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I'd consider our defence to be our better side right now. We've done OK by deferring. If its such a big deal for the offense then they should be the ones to insist on possessing first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdogg Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 This O sucks badly. Doesn't matter what we do with the coin toss. The WCO has ruined this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller2Rison Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Our offense usually punts or kicks a fg on the first drive and our d usually holds, think deferring is the way to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AF89 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Honestly Im a big fan of deffering almost regardless of team makeup. Something about knowing you'll have the the ball first in the second half either to pour it on or help erase a deficit with the advantage of second half adjustments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlrfalcon Posted December 20, 2015 Author Share Posted December 20, 2015 We actually lost the toss but see how much better our team is when we get the ball first!This is the one thing that Coach Smith realized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 You guys can never figure out which side of the gray grass you want to be on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovie_Lover Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 1) just because you score first doesn't mean you'll win2) you don't know how many series we will get, even so the same could be said for the 3rd quarter late in the game where it really matters3) you can do that at half too ya know4) read #35) you can show off adjustmentsAlsoJust because you defer doesn't mean you expect to be down.Our offense is trash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeytonMannings Forehead Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Same thread, same day, two weeks in a row...Belichick prefers defer. You get two for one. If you control the clock correctly in the first half you'll get the ball right before halftime with a chance to put up points more, then get it again to start the second half.Getting the ball first in the second half isn't fatalist thinking at all. If you're ahead it gives you to opportunity to throw the kill shot. If you are behind it gives you a chance to turn the momentum back your way.Don't understand the line of thinking that there's a right or wrong way to do this football thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 I love deferring. It's a huge momentum builder if your defense gets a stop to start the game. One of the things that has made the Patriots so great over the years is that they score right at the end of the 1st half and then get the ball to start the 2nd half and score again. It's tough to defend against that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby.Digital Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Deferring is better IMO. Been doing it in Madden since a youngin lmao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK Manley Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) Yeah, constantly blowing leads in the 3rd quarter under Smith was great Edited December 20, 2015 by PK Manley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Bet the Panthers are glad they deferred. They scored a TD to end the half and now they get the ball back to put a dagger in the giants.Goes both ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B3TD Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Honestly Im a big fan of deffering almost regardless of team makeup. Something about knowing you'll have the the ball first in the second half either to pour it on or help erase a deficit with the advantage of second half adjustments.This. It's helpful no matter whether you're up, down, or tied.Always defer unless your offense is lethal and you want to set the pace. Our offense has been anything but lethal this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlrfalcon Posted December 20, 2015 Author Share Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) I will also point out that we had kicked off to start the game in 5 straight games before today and had lost all 5 of them.For the season, we are 4-6 when we kick off first but 2-1 (about to be 3-1?) when we receive first. Edited December 20, 2015 by jlrfalcon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B3TD Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 I will also point out that we had kicked off to start the game in 5 straight games before today and had lost all 5 of them.For the season, we are 4-6 when we kick off first but 2-1 (about to be 3-1?) when we receive first.Correlation =|= causationThe biggest difference between the first 5 games and the last 5 is that they won the close games early and lost the close games since. Its an interesting age old philosophical debate, but lets not pretend like deferring or taking the ball has made a major difference in the outcome of games. The teams play for the other drives has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSprings Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Much prefer to defer. Defense should set the tone of the game. And if you stop them your already winning in a sense. I would rather have the ball later in the game with a chance to control the clock in the 3rd quarter or score quickly after halftime adjustments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheeTKOBeatz Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 OP is not a football mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quest Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Just saying we got the ball first today and scored on our opening drive. And it felt dang good too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaJoe Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Defer is better strategy, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I hated it. Huge advantage to have ball at the end of half and start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Begotten912 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Belichick always defers. Do you think you know better than Belichick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlrfalcon Posted December 27, 2015 Author Share Posted December 27, 2015 Why do we defer when our defense sucks, their offense dominates and we will be down immediately? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlrfalcon Posted December 27, 2015 Author Share Posted December 27, 2015 3-1 when when we have received first this year, about to be 4-7 when we deferThe announcer today actually noticed this today also - you defer when you have a good defense not when you don't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Offense sucks to. What does it matter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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