Theyhateme : ) Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 "8 turnovers in the last 4 games" by Ryan himself? I guess I really had my blinders on. That's a ridiculous stat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashbrown3 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 "8 turnovers in the last 4 games" by Ryan himself? I guess I really had my blinders on. That's a ridiculous stat.Yeah, how many total for the team in that span then I wonder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grrrillapmpn Inc.® Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Seriously, stop talking about no huddle and just do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtybird2k5 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Red zone turnovers are a killer. You take at least three points off the board turning the ball over like that. We lost the turnover battle 4-0 against Tampa Bay, and still had a chance to win the game in the end. It's not as bad as everyone makes it out to be on here. Those are correctable mistakes.R-E-L-A-X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyhateme : ) Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Yeah, how many total for the team in that span then I wonder?Let's see:1. Coleman2. Freeman (recovered by JJ)3. Julio4. Stone5. Person6. Blocked puntAny others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Even Bleed Red Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 What I like about Matt Ryan:Not the fact that he is "elite" (he's not imho), but the fact that he takes ownership.He's the first to notice he isn't playing his best football. I can promise you no one is more frustrated than Ryan at his own mistakes. He doesn't have the arm talent Aaron Rodgers has. But what he does are values of teamwork and a hard work ethics. Those are his strengths. Not because he's Brady. But because he's Matt and he has his own principles.That's why he's our QB, and prolly will be so for a while. And that's why I'm okay with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashbrown3 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Let's see:1. Coleman2. Freeman (recovered by JJ)3. Julio4. Stone5. Person6. Blocked puntAny others?Man it's crazy, I think we have 12 giveaways in the last 4 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wjcorner Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Like that it sounds like our locker room is still sticking together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashbrown3 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Like that it sounds like our locker room is still sticking together.Exactly, they have to feel pretty good at 6-2 considering this is an all new falcons team with new schemes on both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papachaz Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 As much as I am an Atlanta guy through and through, It would have been really tough to support a team called "The Goobers", "the Confederates", or the "the Peaches". "Yellow Dogs" would have been tough too. I did go to a bunch of Macon Peaches games as a little kid, but I hated the name then. Man, I can just hear the media guys "them Goobers down in Atlanta just fumbled again"And these days, there'd always be the possibilities of nuts everywhere crying "their name offends me, make em change it" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyhateme : ) Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Man it's crazy, I think we have 12 giveaways in the last 4 games.Not like the Falcons...and we are still 6-2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Old Pappy Falcon* Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Pappy, lol it is good having you back. I'm enjoying having you around again.Thank you from the bottom of my heart! That means more to me than you will ever know! You are my people for life!I want us all to get that Big win soon ATLfanstckndenver! It's been too dang long buddy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltstorm2 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25362998/matt-ryan-turnovers-not-scheme-are-to-blame-for-struggling-offenseThis article is from yesterday. Great points made regarding the offense and turnovers -"Atlanta's offense is actually averaging more yards per game over the last three than the first five and an almost identical number of first downs, but where the Falcons had five total turnovers through Week 5, they have nine in Weeks 6 through 8. An extra two turnovers per game on drives where they used to be scoring touchdowns would go a long way torward dropping a scoring average by... 13.6 points, almost exactly two touchdowns."This is also what happened to us in the Superbowl. I used to get upset when people talked about how bad the Broncos beat us. We had 3 INT's and a fumble all deep in Broncos territory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee sunset Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 One of the names seriously considered besides Falcons for the franchise was the Atlanta Goobers.I heard it was the Atlanta Gomers. And then all the trolls would start their threads with "Hey you bunch of Gomer Homers..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerSteve Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 One of the names seriously considered besides Falcons for the franchise was the Atlanta Goobers.Love it, Gritz!! It's sad they went the wrong way. Considering this team's comical past, if they'd gone with Goober way back then this franchise would probably now be worth $6 Billion instead of a mere billion and a half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Old Pappy Falcon* Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 " Ya, ya ,ya you just wait this weekend pal! When Joe montana and the 49ers come to fulton Co., Deion and the Goobers will be ready baby!"I would have gotten my azz kicked right there and laughed off the beach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rise Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 (edited) He is a very, very good QB, but...He doesn't seem to see the whole feield or throw to inexperienced players--unitl he has to.He is locked on a couple of choices (Julio, Tamme), and reallt doesn't seek to want to make the big "X-Factor" type of play.In a way too careful--because he is so smart... Sometimes, he's not when who he wants open is not... He creates his own pressure at time...Referee will step-up,plant his foot (in a wave of bodies),..and throw upfield...Brees wants to crush opposing teams by going upfield.. He looks upfield in big moments. Ryan seems use to relying on Tony Gonzalez in the middle of the field, and Tamme.Opposing teams will continue to place 8-in-the-box. to stop RB Freeman--because he will continue the underneath stuff near that "box". The MLBs are getting INTs along the way to stopping Freeman..(This will remain a problem against good defenses---like The Panthers).After being booed.....HIs time may be done here soon.He has all the records, and is great, but he feels pressure internally..Jake and the O-Line are doing well in pass-protection....(Long may be ready soon)Shanahan needs to run a drill with Ryan in which everyone he wants is double and tripple covered be defenders, and he has no O-Linemen.It should be called 11-on-7..Julio, Tamme, and Freeman all double covered, or shadowed by zone. Edited November 6, 2015 by Rise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.11 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 (edited) Seriously, stop talking about no huddle and just do it.Bad idea. Matt and the offense needs to learn and master the offense. Running the no huddle all game doesn't help in that regard.Peyton Manning figured it out. Edited November 6, 2015 by JerseyNo12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 He is a very, very good QB, but...He doen't seem to see teh whole feield or throw to inexperienced players--unitl he has to.He is locked on a couple of choices (Julio, Tamme), and reallt doesn;e seek to wan tto make the big "X-Factor" type of play.In a way too careful--because he is so smart... Sometimes, he's not when who he wants open in not... He creates his own pressure at time...Referee will step-up,plant his foot (in a wave of bodies),..and throw upfield...Brees wants to crush opposing teams by going upfield.. He looks upfield in big moments. Ryan seems use to relying on Tony Gonzalez in the middle of the field, and Tamme.Oppsing teams will continue to place 8-in-the-box. to stop RB Freeman--because he will continue the underneath stuff near that "box". The MLBs are getting INTs along the way to stopping Freeman..(This will remain a problem against good defenses---like The Panthers).After being booed.....HIs time may be done here soon.He has all the records, and is great, but he feels pressure internally..Jake and the O-Line are doing well in pass-protection....(Long may be ready soon)Shanahan needs to reun a drill with Ryan in which everyone he wants is double and tripple covered be defenders, and he has no O-Linemen.It should be called 11-on-7..Julio, Tamme, and Freeman all double covered, or shadowed by zone.Just lol. Please explain in detail how we would get rid of Ryan even if we wanted to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulitik Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 He is a very, very good QB, but...He doen't seem to see teh whole feield or throw to inexperienced players--unitl he has to.He is locked on a couple of choices (Julio, Tamme), and reallt doesn;e seek to wan tto make the big "X-Factor" type of play.In a way too careful--because he is so smart... Sometimes, he's not when who he wants open in not... He creates his own pressure at time...Referee will step-up,plant his foot (in a wave of bodies),..and throw upfield...Brees wants to crush opposing teams by going upfield.. He looks upfield in big moments. Ryan seems use to relying on Tony Gonzalez in the middle of the field, and Tamme.Oppsing teams will continue to place 8-in-the-box. to stop RB Freeman--because he will continue the underneath stuff near that "box". The MLBs are getting INTs along the way to stopping Freeman..(This will remain a problem against good defenses---like The Panthers).After being booed.....HIs time may be done here soon.He has all the records, and is great, but he feels pressure internally..Jake and the O-Line are doing well in pass-protection....(Long may be ready soon)Shanahan needs to reun a drill with Ryan in which everyone he wants is double and tripple covered be defenders, and he has no O-Linemen.It should be called 11-on-7..Julio, Tamme, and Freeman all double covered, or shadowed by zone.The system limits choices. It's basically run through Julio, and Devonta. Roddy White's comments "I'm not here just to ^%&^$ People" comments after the 4th game reinforce that. Certain recievers are there to block, not necessarily to get open with separation. It's just not how this system works right now, nor what the play-calling allows. Matt threw to 10 different receivers on Sunday, so this not seeing the field thing is total myth. You don't have the time to scan the whole field, when you've got a second and a half to throw the ball. Even suggesting that Renfree has any shot of supplanting Matt, because he might throw it downfield is frankly, idiotic. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulitik Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Just lol. Please explain in detail how we would get rid of Ryan even if we wanted to.This is exactly why we can't have a discussion about QBs in this town, and why I defend Matt. We can't just say "Matt needs to step it up, or Matt needs to improve",it always devolves into replacing Matt, with some idiotic suggestion, Either some impossible trade scenario to get Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers, drafting some unproven spread/mobile QB, or putting in some Back Up in like Dom Davis, or now Sean Renfree that wouldn't even make most teams practice squads. Wasn't Atlanta ranked the 32nd back QB situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 This is exactly why we can't have a discussion about QBs in this town, and why I defend Matt. We can't just say "Matt needs to step it up, or Matt needs to improve",it always devolves into replacing Matt, with some idiotic suggestion, Either some impossible trade scenario to get Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers, drafting some unproven spread/mobile QB, or putting in some Back Up in like Dom Davis, or now Sean Renfree that wouldn't even make most teams practice squads. Wasn't Atlanta ranked the 32nd back QB situation? It's probably the same guy that said he would trade Matt Ryan for Jake locker straight up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rise Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 (edited) Just lol. Please explain in detail how we would get rid of Ryan even if we wanted to.I don't think he's going anywhere really....I think Quinn and Shanahan are here to win a Superbowl (by building a Top 3 defense, and Top 3 Running game---because he probably will not become one of the NFL's "super QBs"....and there is nothing wrong with that... I think this was the discussion last Winter. He's more Phill Simms than say....Tom Brady, Brees, or Aaron Rodgers..I see Rivers as a Super QB., and he throws interceptions, but he can also be dominant, and throw TDS to any WR or TE that The Chargers sign. Edited November 6, 2015 by Rise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungHeezy Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I don't think he's going anywhere really....I think Quinn and Shanahan are here to win a Superbowl (by building a Top 3 defense, and Top 3 Running game---because he probably will not become one of the NFL's "super QBs"....and there is nothing wrong with that... I think this was the discussion last Winter. He's more Phill Simms than say....Tom Brady, Brees, or Aaron Rodgers..I see Rivers as a Super QB., and he throws interceptions, but he can also be dominant, and throw TDS to any WR or TE that The Chargers sign.Why this matters I will never know. Joe Flacco has the same number of Super Bowl wins as Aaron Rodgers. All Matt has to do is help us win one. The whole "carrying the team" exaggeration is garbage. Teams win, period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyhateme : ) Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Why this matters I will never know. Joe Flacco has the same number of Super Bowl wins as Aaron Rodgers. All Matt has to do is help us win one. The whole "carrying the team" exaggeration is garbage. Teams win, period.Matt will bring us one or two towards the end of his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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