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Can Someone Explain How Desmond Trufant Is Being Used In This Defense?


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i remember hearing quinn has planted him on the left side regardless of where the other team's best receiver lines up, effectively giving them the choice of avoiding him. the result being huge games for bradford, manning/OBJ, deandre hopkins, drew brees & co....and naturally he has become the least targeted CB in the league by a huge margin.

what's the theory behind this?

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Have you followed the NFL? Not trying to be a smart XXX, but that is Quinn's system. Each man plays his position. Tru locks down his side and they use help on the other side out of the base defense. The scheme is vanilla on vanilla. It is based on simplicity. The idea is if you keep it simple, they can play "fast and physical."

That is why most of us think it will take another draft or two for Quinn to build the talent he needs. We are doing a good job compared to last season with average talent. As the talent goes up, the results will improve. Quinn doesn't try to adjust to you outside of what he can do with the base scheme. Even when he brings in the nickle back, it is really just changing the skill set of the player. The defensive concept doesn't really change much.

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i remember hearing quinn has planted him on the left side regardless of where the other team's best receiver lines up, effectively giving them the choice of avoiding him. the result being huge games for bradford, manning/OBJ, deandre hopkins, drew brees & co....and naturally he has become the least targeted CB in the league by a huge margin.

what's the theory behind this?

OBJ: He had one big play where he exploited a zone...it was the LBs who busted the coverage even though the play ended up near Alford.

Hopkins: Had a huge day when we had almos tan entire 2nd string out there on defense. We had 10 back ups playing at in the 2nd half. We pulled the staters.

Brees: He didn't really have a huge day...we kept him below his average coming and his passes were not on the CBs, they were on the LBs and Willy Mo.

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trufant island is great, just seems like it would still make more sense to put him on their #1 rather than letting them avoid him. at least until we have some better options at safety.

Here we go

1st we don't matchup so there's that.

2nd we don't help the other side. I know falcondave said we do but we don't. If Alf or Collins is on an island then that's just how it's gonna be.

We mainly run 2 coverages. Cover 1(man) and cover 3(zone but can look like man because we press out of it and also play close to the LOS)

We run those coverages because having a safety high means we can drop a safety in the box to help with the run OR blitz, hence part of the reason we're #3 against the run.

The object of this system is to have long corners on the outside so qb's have to be deadly accurate on long balls. We don't get beat by long balls if you haven't noticed.

I know guys hate this but the system is designed to rush 4 and not count on the blitz. We DO blitz but not much. Kinda like a Tampa 2. The difference our corners are more suited for this style because we play man

We don't get beat up by wr's. TE's and RB's get most looks against this system because of the way it's designed to force the dinks and dunks, which also affects the pass rush.

Quicker throws harder to get to the qb. See Matt Ryan

Tru is used the same way Sherm was used in Seattle.

Most qb's in the nfl are right handed so naturally most of their completions come on the right side against the LCB.

Since Sherm/Tru usually take that side away then the qb has to look for another target. The defense isn't designed to match corners.

The good thing is qb's usually don't have anything on the left side either because Alford's coverage has been good.

That's why they went and got wheeler to help with some of the leakage in the middle of the field since it's not that easy to throw on the outside on us.

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trufant island is great, just seems like it would still make more sense to put him on their #1 rather than letting them avoid him. at least until we have some better options at safety.

Not how it works. Safety has t been the issue either. It's been linebacker play and even that's gotten better.

Fatboi 3 2 1...

Lmao

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Hopkins had a big game vs our backups. OBJ had a big play, and Alford covered him tight on every play. Recardo Allen missed his assignment on that play. The play should have never happened in the first place, but W.A.R (Willy Mo Always Rapping) goes for a big hit, and misses a tackle. Don't bring up Tru being avoided after the Bucs Game, because Winston went right after him.

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Not how it works. Safety has t been the issue either. It's been linebacker play and even that's gotten better.

Lmao

OK Fatboi heres one for you what dictates when we go cover 1 is it dependent on down and distance look tendancy of a certain QB ?????

Are the coverages very changeable off the snap or are they personel based??

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OK Fatboi heres one for you what dictates when we go cover 1 is it dependent on down and distance look tendancy of a certain QB ?????

Are the coverages very changeable off the snap or are they personel based??

Down and distance usually indicates when we go cover 1. 3rd n 1 look for us to be cover 1 BUT the good thing is we can also give you a man look out of cover 3 and it confuses qb's.

the coverages are her changeable as I just noted on 3rd n 1. The personnel on offense also dictates the packages we use. For instance if the offense is in 3 wide expect the rush package to come in the game in nickel as well as Collins for alf on the outside, alf moves to slot and Tru stays put

Same thing applies tho. Cover 1 or cover 3 on the backend. The only difference is do we keep a safety in the box or do we use deep halves meaning they help with the deepest man on their half of the field or so we blitz etc...

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Down and distance usually indicates when we go cover 1. 3rd n 1 look for us to be cover 1 BUT the good thing is we can also give you a man look out of cover 3 and it confuses qb's.

the coverages are her changeable as I just noted on 3rd n 1. The personnel on offense also dictates the packages we use. For instance if the offense is in 3 wide expect the rush package to come in the game in nickel as well as Collins for alf on the outside, alf moves to slot and Tru stays put

Same thing applies tho. Cover 1 or cover 3 on the backend. The only difference is do we keep a safety in the box or do we use deep halves meaning they help with the deepest man on their half of the field or so we blitz etc...

Thanks for clarifying that I got a rough understanding of how the coverages work just need to be able to see the situational and personelpart so I can put it all together.

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Down and distance usually indicates when we go cover 1. 3rd n 1 look for us to be cover 1 BUT the good thing is we can also give you a man look out of cover 3 and it confuses qb's.

the coverages are her changeable as I just noted on 3rd n 1. The personnel on offense also dictates the packages we use. For instance if the offense is in 3 wide expect the rush package to come in the game in nickel as well as Collins for alf on the outside, alf moves to slot and Tru stays put

Same thing applies tho. Cover 1 or cover 3 on the backend. The only difference is do we keep a safety in the box or do we use deep halves meaning they help with the deepest man on their half of the field or so we blitz etc...

So by giving a man look your talking lining straight up basically playing a bump sought of coverage then dropping into zone off the snap ???

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Hopkins had a big game vs our backups. OBJ had a big play, and Alford covered him tight on every play. Recardo Allen missed his assignment on that play. The play should have never happened in the first place, but W.A.R (Willy Mo Always Rapping) goes for a big hit, and misses a tackle. Don't bring up Tru being avoided after the Bucs Game, because Winston went right after him.

He didn't go for a big hit. I've explained this a thousand times. He went to make the tackle with his arms out and vereen spun at the same time. That's the only tackle Moore missed that game. Wor missed a tackle that gained 37 yards and Moore saved that from being a TD.
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