JJC28 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 (edited) Jarvis Jones 2.0 I said it 1 time I will say it again. He is a 1 trick pony and his trick is up! 2015 Pittsburgh Steelers 7 7 19 9 10 1.5 -- 0 -- -- 0.0 -- -- 1 2015 Atlanta Falcons 8 8 19 12 7 2.0 -- 1 -- -- 0.0 -- -- 1 Edited November 3, 2015 by JJC28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJC28 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Awful analysis. Just awful. But thanks for playing. He is really spot on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wjcorner Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Hes been very undisciplined which is unnerving but I still see his potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRUNKuno Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Dude is a pom pom swinging cheerleader who uses sarcasm to mask his passive aggressiveness.Thanks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Huge Beasley supporter, and even I see areas for concern. But not to do with his strength, or even his physicality - the biggest issue I have is his lack of confidence. He started off doing much better than he's been the last few games, even tallying a solo sack besting the near unbeatable Tyron Smith. He had a ton of hurries and was actually a DROY candidate, one of the top 5 in an NFL article.Imo, where he started to falter wasn't even the Texans and Skins games - he still had pressures, and he was facing two of the best LTs in football. No, it was the Saints game - where he watched his favorite team get utterly humiliated by their biggest rival, watched an offense struggle and fail, watched his brothers on defense give up and realize they couldn't win.This is far from an excuse. If anything, I'm even more angry and a bit unsettled that his confidence seems to have faltered so much, and he's been making stupid penalties and struggling trying to do too much without remembering fundamentals as a result. He isn't the technician I saw in college. Instead, he tries to use moves he hasn't refined, flailing like a newborn. He isn't setting up people with head fakes anymore. He isn't playing for the long haul. He knows what is expected and is trying too hard to meet those expectations, and ironically he looks worse because of it.Football is a very mentality driven game. A bad head space can be just as bad as an injury (or worse).Then again, this is really just me postulating, so...take it with a grain of salt. Quinn needs to get his head right or he might not be able to turn it around, at least this year.I think he looks gassed. That's about it. The season for a highly touted rookie continues from Spring ball in his last college season through Week 17 of his NFL season. I think that it takes a toll on most players and I don't think Beasley is an exception. As for his confidence, the 12 men penalty combined with the unnecessary offsides penalty probably didnt help. But he's a young player who is still flashing frequently enough to avoid being labeled a "bust" after 8 games. With a bye week looming, I'd expect Vic to look quite a bit better coming out of the extra rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 He only has one pass rush move: spin spin spin spin. His "pass rush repertoire" IS garbage. I don't view that as particularly bothersome, though. A rookie is expected to need to learn things like that."Whiffed on the #8 pick" is obviously either hyperbole or ridiculous. I am critical of his idiotic decision to keep his weight at an unacceptably low 240 or fewer pounds, but it is clearly way to early to place any label beyond "too light" on him right now.Well, it's bothersome because it isn't true. The "spin" was the flashy part of his college tape but it wasnt the substance. He routinely beat guys outside on the edge. He routinely beat guys working back inside. I'm not saying he's a pass rush tactician....of course he isnt. Like you said, he's a rookie and the vast majority of rookie pass rushers don't have develop pass rush moves. There isnt enough coaching time in college to work on hand usage, etc. I won't say he's lighting it up this year. And if you wanted to fixate on the overuse of the spin move, I get that. I think a lot of that is him bailing out of pass rushes looking for the screen game but I also think a lot of it is him being gassed halfway through the season. I'm not concerned with the weight thing. He'll end up growing into his body a little bit more and probably level off right around 250 or so...just like Von Miller did. I think we have a situation where people expected this team to be bad but it started off good so people recast their expectations. Now, everyone is turning on all the players because they've given two games away. So the draft pick is a bust, the QB is done, the coach is bad, etc. Meanwhile, last year's "bust" continues to put together a very strong sophomore campaign, the defense improves every week and the team is in prime position to make a playoff push.Too much big picture for so many small pictures, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knomercy Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Fantasy football and Madden are ruining some of you guys.Say that sh*t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Truth Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Speed without technique is no good. All that means he's quick at running into a stone wall. The thing that sticks out most about Beasley to me is his lack of having a nasty side to him. He let's the opponent bully him and lacks fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jidady Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Not that this will stop anybody from arguing nonsense, but PFF grades Beasley as +4.3 in pass rush already this year.Keeping in mind that their stats are cumulative, only one Falcon earned a score that high for the entire season in 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashbrown3 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Wouldn't mind seeing DQ move Beaz around a bit this game. Against Gabbert it might be a pretty good reason to blitz a bit using different guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunchy Carter Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Wouldn't mind seeing DQ move Beaz around a bit this game. Against Gabbert it might be a pretty good reason to blitz a bit using different guys.He's moved around some already. I've seen him at LDE quite a few times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hoopah! Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I wanted the Falcons to double up on pass rush, A: Beasley & Gregory (or Hardy in free agency) or B: trade down get an extra pick and pick up Dupree and Gregory.I hope this is the end of "we should have signed Greg Hardy" once and for all. http://deadspin.com/this-is-why-nfl-star-greg-hardy-was-arrested-for-assaul-1739117634?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskooler Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I'm not concerned with the weight thing. He'll end up growing into his body a little bit more and probably level off right around 250 or so...just like Von Miller did.I've said it before in response to this supposition. I assumed the same thing, especially after showing up at the Combine 246. But he's intentionally, deliberately deflated to under 240 again. He has a nutritionist-designed plan to keep his weight under or at 240. He uas absolutely no intention of growing into his body like Von Miller. That article is why I turned on him like a rabid wolverine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I hope this is the end of "we should have signed Greg Hardy" once and for all. http://deadspin.com/this-is-why-nfl-star-greg-hardy-was-arrested-for-assaul-1739117634?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflowSomeone should hold him down and beat his azz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlfanstckndenver Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I think the provocative op title is ignorant. Just like the doom sayers who said that Collins was a bust before he even played a freaking snap, this is just so "silly." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falc_Fan_Since_Six Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Someone should hold him down and beat his azz.He's going to end up killing someone but he can rush the passer......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FulC0 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 What in the living fark does that BS nonsense have to do with anything?We playing stupid stat?First number is their rookie year, second number is 2014.1) Justin Houston 5.5/22.02) JJ Watt 5.5/20.53) Elvis Dumervil 8.5/17.04) Mario Williams 4.5/14.55) Connor Barwin 4.5/14.56) Von Miller 11.5/14.07) Ryan Kerrigan 7.5/13.58) Jason Pierre Paul 4.5/12.59) Terrell Suggs 12.0/12.010) Everson Griffen 0.0/12.0Learn to NFLWould love to see "Shede's" 1st/2nd year comparisons.And, I can't believe you're comparing Beasley to Watt, Suggs, Dumervil, Pierre-Paul, et al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerSteve Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Let's see, 15 posts to your name bashing our first round draft pick.I'm sorry, but when you go jogging nonchalantly off the field after you put your team in a time crunch because you were too busy trash talking on the opposing sideline, you're going to get criticized ~ and you'll deserve it. Being a rookie doesn't excuse this level of thoughtless immaturity, especially in a tight game. He's getting paid to bring way more to the table than this type of bs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moist Words Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Would love to see "Shede's" 1st/2nd year comparisons.And, I can't believe you're comparing Beasley to Watt, Suggs, Dumervil, Pierre-Paul, et al.Yeah because it's not like Beasley is a first round pass rusher just like several other guys on that list. How dare he compare their rookie years to Beasley's. Ridiculous I tell ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Would love to see "Shede's" 1st/2nd year comparisons.And, I can't believe you're comparing Beasley to Watt, Suggs, Dumervil, Pierre-Paul, et al.You missing the point does not surprise me one tiny bit. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamPlayer1 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I believe JJ Watt had 5.5 sacks his rookie year. Now, if Beasley has 5.5 sacks his rookie year, he's a bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Minotaur Zebra Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I believe JJ Watt had 5.5 sacks his rookie year. Now, if Beasley has 5.5 sacks his rookie year, he's a bust.glad you understand how things work here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macintez Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 glad you understand how things work hereWatt took over games way more than the sacks indicate... Beasley has potential and is a rookie but he is nowhere near Watt in terms of rookie year impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11JonesBrothers45 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Maybe the foot injury has been. He do could've injuried it weeks ago. I also believe he should be an outside linebacker rushing the qb. Just my 2 cents on the matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FulC0 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 You missing the point does not surprise me one tiny bit. lolNeither does the fallacy of each of your simpleton arguments on this board. I could name 1,000 NFL players whose rookie stats were similar or worse in their 2nd year. By implication, you're comparing Beasley to some of the best defensive players in recent NFL history. At best, you are a selectively blind homer. Most likely, you're an uneducated dolt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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